FullScreen VS WideScreen?

[Downhere]

Original Aspect Ratio.

Ditto

 

[luca_frontino]

Well... James Cameron likes T2 in fullscreen. The last two Star Wars were shot in 16:9 and the CGI was done in 2.1:1, but the theatrical release is in 2.35:1, the same format of the anamorphic 35mm. Lucas did that to make the prequels look like the original, but it cuts some of the original image.

 

[Downhere]

Well... James Cameron likes T2 in fullscreen. The last two Star Wars were shot in 16:9 and the CGI was done in 2.1:1, but the theatrical release is in 2.35:1, the same format of the anamorphic 35mm. Lucas did that to make the prequels look like the original, but it cuts some of the original image.

What matters is what makes it to the theater, that will become the O.A.R. Many movies are done in Super 35, and then matted down to either flat or scope, which then becomes the O.A.R.

 

[Kipobe]

Well... James Cameron likes T2 in fullscreen. The last two Star Wars were shot in 16:9 and the CGI was done in 2.1:1, but the theatrical release is in 2.35:1, the same format of the anamorphic 35mm. Lucas did that to make the prequels look like the original, but it cuts some of the original image.

well, la-di-da.

 

[Movies205]

Let's clear somethings up for the SHH! Movie going public. The issue at hand has become far complicating due to the fact that people like to simplify things to fullscreen vs. widescreen, where those black bars seem to have caused various wierd psychosises in the movie-goin public.

What I mean by this is that you shouldn't say you're either a full-screen or widescreen watcher, just say you support OAR (Original Aspect Ratio) which is simply watching a film in the ratio that it was made, or that you simply want a film to be cropped/stretched to fit your entire screen, that's what it should come down to. What has happen though from this inane battle fueled by ignorant so-called cinephiles, is a whole new batch of problems have cropped up. Also let's clear the air, fullscreen's proper name is "Academy Ratio" which is 1:37:1, widescreen however is a little more complex. Widescreen comes in a variety of ratios which why I said that the simplification of it to Fullscreen vs. Widescreen has caused problems. For example the original Ben-Hur DVD release was wide-screen however it wasn't OAR because the film's actual ratio is 2.76:1, which is one of the widest films ever released, in the original DVD they cropped it to the normal wide-screen ratio.

Another horror story revolving around the whole widescreen vs. fullscreen, is taking Transformers the Movie (Animated) and simply throwing black bars on the top and bottom so that it looked wide-screen without any additional picture information being added, most likely done to get people to rebuy it. DBZ did the same thing with its season sets. The point I'm making is either you support movies being presented OAR or being cropped to fit your TV, the rest of this is a bunch of hogwash. I support OAR.

 

[Apollo]

damn

 

[YsoSerious]

Original Aspect Ratio.Stop butchering peoples movies.That goes for 4:3 converted to be widescreen as well.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

...fullscreen's proper name is "Academy Ratio" which is 1:37:1

Then would you mind explaining to me why so many TV-DVD releases from the '80s and early '90s show a ratio of 1.33:1, and refer to it as "Full Screen"?

 

[War Party]

Give me some points to discuss in my persuation speech. I'm trying to convince people that a film should only be watched in widescreen. It can be really basic too, because half of the stuff Movies205 talked about, the people in my class won't understand anyway and it's not needed. So help me out guys.

 

[Movies205]

Give me some points to discuss in my persuation speech. I'm trying to convince people that a film should only be watched in widescreen. It can be really basic too, because half of the stuff Movies205 talked about, the people in my class won't understand anyway and it's not needed. So help me out guys.

Um... For christ sakes did you bother to read my post? An important distinction needs to be made as to whether you want your screen filled up or if you want to see it the way the artist intended it. If it's A then no matter what you'll say will matter however there are those who are just ignorant to what fullscreen really is, so simply tell them. That for a rectangle image to fit fully on a square TV, they have to cut the sides off to make it a square. It's pretty simply, my post was simply breaking down the problems with this ******ed "Fullscreen vs. Widescreen" war that has evolved out of the digital age.

Moviefan2k4, 1:33:1 are the ratio for the actual TV while 1:37:1 is what all films made between '27-to the mid 50s were made in, however the difference is minimal, or more to the point I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between teh Frame size of Citizen Kane and a TV movie.

 

[superhero]

I like fullscreen. i think they should make it were you can pick full screen or widescreen I only buy widescreen if i had to like parites of carbbiean all their movies are in widescreen. i don't mind some widescreens. some are really bad. i even get extra bar on top of it being widescreen. i hate the extra bar.

 

[DACrowe]

Anyone who likes full screen in a film shot in a wide aspect ratio NEEDS TO WATCH THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEtFcgfonY

 

[War Party]

Um... For christ sakes did you bother to read my post? An important distinction needs to be made as to whether you want your screen filled up or if you want to see it the way the artist intended it. If it's A then no matter what you'll say will matter however there are those who are just ignorant to what fullscreen really is, so simply tell them. That for a rectangle image to fit fully on a square TV, they have to cut the sides off to make it a square. It's pretty simply, my post was simply breaking down the problems with this ******ed "Fullscreen vs. Widescreen" war that has evolved out of the digital age.

Moviefan2k4, 1:33:1 are the ratio for the actual TV while 1:37:1 is what all films made between '27-to the mid 50s were made in, however the difference is minimal, or more to the point I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between teh Frame size of Citizen Kane and a TV movie.

Don't get snippy with me Mister. I shouldn't of said that it wasn't needed. I didn't mean to say that. And I know all about the OAR and Academy Ratio stuff. I just have to present a good arguement why someone should watch a film in it's OAR. I just need help with sources. Anyone know any good websites?

 

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Widescreen FTW!!!

 

[War Party]

Anyone who likes full screen in a film shot in a wide aspect ratio NEEDS TO WATCH THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEtFcgfonY

This is actually a great video. Explains everything very clearly and is very convincing. I may actually incorporate some of this video into my powerpoint.

 

[chaseter]

Widescreen is only watched by people who value cinema and cherish movies. Full screen is for old farts or kids who don't understand why there are 2 black bars.

 

[Apollo]

Original Aspect Ratio.Stop butchering peoples movies.That goes for 4:3 converted to be widescreen as well.

hehe "why has been gotten so fat??" t:

 

[Eelectro 2]

the only problem i have with all of these multi-0format movies on dvd is that i definetly prefer widescreen for any movie i see. the only problem i find occasionally is when the widescreen movie seems to have cut a bit of the picture from the top or/and bottom even tho it makes up for it on the sides. if the widescreen format is the way the movie was shot in, then why in that lord of the rings screen is there footage taken from the top and bottom? same goes for spider-man 2

 

[LinDuh]

Good evening all,

What is everyones opinion of the different Screen types and Aspect Ratios of film?

Are you a VHS-aged Pan&Scan type? Or a New-Aged Widescreen type?
Do you rent FullScreen DVD's or Widescreen? What are your opinions on the fact movies are released twice to DVD because of this? Also, what do you think of viewers who like a Filled screen over the Full Picture?

I am interested in all your views. I still watch VHS's simply because I have a large collection of movies, in which the VHS is the larger part. I started it when I was younger and did not see any reason to buy a movie I already owned for a second time. I also have friends who find "Black Bars" simply too annoying to enjoy the film. Myself, I know that when it is Panned and Scanned they crop/Center Scan and fake Camera move with it. Thus, I know FullScreen you see less, unless filmed in Super 35 Format.

However, I was just wondering everyones opinion on the subject of Aspect Ratios and how they are presented.

I've been a Widescreen adict since I converted to it oh so many years ago. I used to be strictly full-screen back in the day. In fact, I always thought that Widescreen is the version cutting OFF the movie. I thought the black bars were literally covering it up. I never understood it. I had bought Men In Black on Widescreen VHS back in the day without realizing it, and was so peeved to see black bars. I returned it for a Fullscreen.

I don't even know what caused me to get converted, though. Something just clicked in me. Or maybe I experimented. Yeah, I think it was while watching the movie "Multiplicity" that I noticed the way the camera moved. It was very annoying. "The Last Action Hero" was the same way. I started to wonder why the camera just "slides" over. Either way, I'm glad I noticed what I was missing whenever I hooked myself on Fullscreen. It was THAT version, that horrid Pan-and-Scan version, that sliced off the movie and caused me to be hopelessly zoomed into to the very facial pores of the characters.

I'm now forever loyal to Widescreens. I converted my mom and sister, too. They never used to care at first, but once I showed them the light, they haven't turned back.

When it comes to DVD's, I don't mind that they do a version of full and a version of wide, but what I DO hate is when they release various versions of both wide AND full. So now you have normal wides and fulls that are JUST the movie and normal wides and fulls that are movies with features. It's enough to drive you crazy.

<---Hehe, cute smiley.

 

[Batman01]

Totally agree with Movies205, I would rather see it in the aspect it was meant to be shot in. Sydney Pollack makes a similar argument about movies being shown in the way the director meant it to be seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPAgNrvZaw

(vVv)

Let's clear somethings up for the SHH! Movie going public. The issue at hand has become far complicating due to the fact that people like to simplify things to fullscreen vs. widescreen, where those black bars seem to have caused various wierd psychosises in the movie-goin public.

What I mean by this is that you shouldn't say you're either a full-screen or widescreen watcher, just say you support OAR (Original Aspect Ratio) which is simply watching a film in the ratio that it was made, or that you simply want a film to be cropped/stretched to fit your entire screen, that's what it should come down to. What has happen though from this inane battle fueled by ignorant so-called cinephiles, is a whole new batch of problems have cropped up. Also let's clear the air, fullscreen's proper name is "Academy Ratio" which is 1:37:1, widescreen however is a little more complex. Widescreen comes in a variety of ratios which why I said that the simplification of it to Fullscreen vs. Widescreen has caused problems. For example the original Ben-Hur DVD release was wide-screen however it wasn't OAR because the film's actual ratio is 2.76:1, which is one of the widest films ever released, in the original DVD they cropped it to the normal wide-screen ratio.

Another horror story revolving around the whole widescreen vs. fullscreen, is taking Transformers the Movie (Animated) and simply throwing black bars on the top and bottom so that it looked wide-screen without any additional picture information being added, most likely done to get people to rebuy it. DBZ did the same thing with its season sets. The point I'm making is either you support movies being presented OAR or being cropped to fit your TV, the rest of this is a bunch of hogwash. I support OAR.

 

[nightcrawler01]

The first movie I ever saw in widescreen was Star Wars Empire Strikes Back Special Edition. Yes, and after that I will never buy fullscreen!!!

 

[Mr Jide]

widescreen.

 

[Taiwarriorz21]

Fullscreen. Gosh I hate having part of the top & bottom of the screen blackened out, just keep it like it's been for years and years. Fullscreen is the way to go.

 

[DACrowe]

Fullscreen. Gosh I hate having part of the top & bottom of the screen blackened out, just keep it like it's been for years and years. Fullscreen is the way to go.

This makes NO SENSE. You realize that widescreen does not BLACKEN OUT HALF THE SCREEN, it shows the whole picture by fitting a rectangular image on 2/3 of the screen instead of compressing and destroying the image in pan and scan.

Full screen butchers the picture, watch the two youtube links on this page, both make clear and perfect arguments about why full screen is evil. I mean Sidney was practically seething at the mouth about it on the second one. Directors hate it and so should any film viewer. You're losing half the picture.

Seeing anything that is supposed to be epic in scale in particular (Ben-Hur, Lawarance of Arabia, LOTR, Saving Private Ryan almost any musical ever) in full screen is scary to behold.

Besides with HDTVs taking over the market within a decade no one will want full screen (unless the picture was shot in 4:3 ratio), because it will be either stretched or have black bars on the side (for a distorted picture no less).

Just convert now.

 

[Albiceleste]

Widescreen for me