Game of Thrones - HBO part 2

[Primal Slayer]

So does anyone plan on reading the comic that Dynamite is putting out?

 

[Buford The Sly]

Wait 7 years to a read a book you really like, as I have.

Would have been really awesome to have the 6th harry potter book end the way it did and have JK Rowling gone for 7 years before ending the series...Loyal fans who actually read the books at that time have lived it like I have...I don't think you waited 7 years, it will change a person's perspective.

In fact, most have been waiting since the end of Storm of Swords (3rd book) because the 4th book is essentially just half of a book and barely anything significant is going down.

Feast has it's faults but

Spoiler

Cersei and Margery imprisoned, The new Greyjoy rebellion, Arya Blind, Maester Amon Dying, Brienne's run in with Lady Stoneheart...not significant enough for you?

 

[Buford The Sly]

So does anyone plan on reading the comic that Dynamite is putting out?

I think I'll pick it up. The cover they released was pretty dang cool.

 

[Buford The Sly]

And now it begins
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/23/game-of-thrones-casting/

 

[SouLeSS]

Wait 7 years to a read a book you really like, as I have.

Would have been really awesome to have the 6th harry potter book end the way it did and have JK Rowling gone for 7 years before ending the series...Loyal fans who actually read the books at that time have lived it like I have...I don't think you waited 7 years, it will change a person's perspective.

In fact, most have been waiting since the end of Storm of Swords (3rd book) because the 4th book is essentially just half of a book and barely anything significant is going down.

You know what I would be doing in those 7 years?

Reading other series, doing other things. Then, around the time that the newest book were to finally appear (I.E. once the GoT series got greenlit) I'd go back and re-read most of the series or the last book or so to 'recap' if you will.

What I wouldn't do, is sit around for 7 years moping about it.


Edit; but that's neither here nor there. I can't for next season's Battle of Blackwater and fallout from it. Hopefully they do it justice as it's one of the only battles that's in PoV.

 

[ChickenScratch]

GRRM is milking every penny till he dies...He probably has already written book 6 and 7 and just makes frequent changes to it. But knowing him based off things he likes to do (events, scripts, and more shows) He wants to make boatload of money and ride it all the way to the bank.

What a coincidence that book 5 is released right after season 1...However, GRRM has become so mainstream that he may be forced to sit down and complete the 6th book in another 3 years. Then book 7 will be released...when season 6 of Game of Thrones is finished

There is nothing wrong with an artist in any genre making money for what he does. There's also no rush for him to get them out, just like there's no real rush for a painter to finish a painting. I work in publishing and it's not an easy road to go down, from the date of submission to publications in most cases is 7 months and sometimes easily over a year (like the new James Bond novel that came out last year). No reflection on the author whatsoever, but editors, yes me and people who have opinions on stuff have to throw their two cents in.

When John Gardner wrote the Bond novels in the 80's and 90's he was under contract to produce a book every year. He asked for a break after the 7th book and IFP said no. It led to declining health and declining quality in the series. He died not long after his run on the series ended, much like Fleming he made a promise he couldn't, a book a year, and it killed him.

Let GRRM work at his own pace.

 

[Paroxysm]

And now it begins
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/23/game-of-thrones-casting/

 

[El Bastardo]

I love GRRM conspiracy theories. They're full of herp-derp moments. Poeman, thank you for sharing your herp-derp with us. We all feel blessed, I am sure.

That said, I would like to begin a movement of readers present in this thread who don't actually care how long it took to get A Dance with Dragons. Regardless of how much time it took, I am happy to be reading one of the finest writers still on the planet.

 

[mr. peasant]

And now it begins
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/23/game-of-thrones-casting/

While I'm sure [blackout]Natalie Dormer[/blackout] is a good actress and all, I'm surprised they cast someone as old as her to play [blackout]Ser Loras' younger sister[/blackout]; especially since the actor for Ser Loras (Finn Jones) is born 1988 and she looks visibly older than him.

P.S.: Just looked her up her past works a little more. Seems good though I now can't help but think she'd have made a better [blackout]Melisandre[/blackout].

 

[Siby]

I really hope he does finish the series. He may be 62 but given his morbid obesity and whatever other medical problems he has I can't imagine him living much past his 70s.

Great season finale!

 

[Buford The Sly]

While I'm sure [blackout]Natalie Dormer[/blackout] is a good actress and all, I'm surprised they cast someone as old as her to play [blackout]Ser Loras' younger sister[/blackout]; especially since the actor for Ser Loras (Finn Jones) is born 1988 and she looks visibly older than him.

P.S.: Just looked her up her past works a little more. Seems good though I now can't help but think she'd have made a better [blackout]Melisandre[/blackout].

You know Dinklage is older than both Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Lena Headey. Not a big deal IMO. She'll be great. I have a feeling the big three of Stannis, Melisandre and Davos will be breaking soon.

 

[Poeman]

I love GRRM conspiracy theories. They're full of herp-derp moments. Poeman, thank you for sharing your herp-derp with us. We all feel blessed, I am sure.

That said, I would like to begin a movement of readers present in this thread who don't actually care how long it took to get A Dance with Dragons. Regardless of how much time it took, I am happy to be reading one of the finest writers still on the planet.

I am sure you werent around reading this series when it first came up...Also, I am sure your herp-derp is suffice enough for you to play with.

 

[Poeman]

There is nothing wrong with an artist in any genre making money for what he does. There's also no rush for him to get them out, just like there's no real rush for a painter to finish a painting. I work in publishing and it's not an easy road to go down, from the date of submission to publications in most cases is 7 months and sometimes easily over a year (like the new James Bond novel that came out last year). No reflection on the author whatsoever, but editors, yes me and people who have opinions on stuff have to throw their two cents in.

When John Gardner wrote the Bond novels in the 80's and 90's he was under contract to produce a book every year. He asked for a break after the 7th book and IFP said no. It led to declining health and declining quality in the series. He died not long after his run on the series ended, much like Fleming he made a promise he couldn't, a book a year, and it killed him.

Let GRRM work at his own pace.

But what if he dies in the middle of writing book 6 say 7 years down the road?

 

[BlackLantern]

I started reading the series right after A Feast for Crows came out....and then went back and started from Game of Thrones

 

[Superfreak]

Let GRRM work at his own pace.

Is he not trapped by the TV schedule now though? Sure, if it's a book a season, then he's 4 years. But that being said, depending on what his 'own pace' is, he's kind of commited to finishing soon, otherwise there's a whole crew of production workers and actors who could be out of the job

 

[El Bastardo]

I am sure you werent around reading this series when it first came up...Also, I am sure your herp-derp is suffice enough for you to play with.

You're right, I wasn't. I purchased A Game of Thrones before A Clash of Kings ever came out, and then it sat on my bookshelf for several years until I was finishing up college with some intensive study of writing. And then I read it, and then I read A Clash of Kings, and then I read A Storm of Swords, and then I read A Feast for Crows. I have reread them since then, when I gifted all my paperbacks to a friend and got him invested in the series, and repurchased them as hardcovers. I have never once felt entitled to receiving the fifth book or any subsequent books, nor have I condemned GRRM for not meeting some quota projected by personal selfishness.

Oh, but you're right, you're much more tortured by his snail-like pace than I am. You have every right!

But what if he dies in the middle of writing book 6 say 7 years down the road?

What if? It would be a tragedy that his talent had passed, no different from the passing of any other talent of any art medium. And I would be thankful that I had had the opportunity to read the published portions of a magnificent story.

The thing is, ASoIaF fans are in large part a bunch of ***wipes. If I had a following composed of such, I wouldn't be in a big hurry to placate their every whims either. GRRM has a number of other intellectual properties he enjoys working on, likely because they're easier to work on, and because they also make him money that allows him to do the things he enjoys doing, and allow him to continue working on ASoIaF. Or, in the case of the comic he wrote recently and was published by IDW, allow him an opportunity to revisit something that never saw the light of day.

Considering these things are his, he has every right to work on whatever he wants to work on. If he is violating a contract with the publisher of ASoIaF, then that's between them - but reportedly he never missed a single draft deadline for A Dance with Dragons, and so it wasn't him sitting around doing nothing, it was him working through a lengthy and troublesome project to deliver what he felt would be the best product.

He has no contract with his readers. His readers have no entitlement to, now, a sixth or seventh book in the series, or any resolution whatsoever. I'm sure we'll get them, but I'd probably applaud him if he decided they weren't worth the sheer amount of **** he has to hear and read from so many fans.

So you waited seven years for the fifth book. Read something else in the meantime and get over it.

 

[mr. peasant]

You know Dinklage is older than both Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Lena Headey. Not a big deal IMO. She'll be great. I have a feeling the big three of Stannis, Melisandre and Davos will be breaking soon.

I agree. It's not a big deal. Just surprised; especially since they wouldn't have had quite so a limited pool as they would have with Dinklage and Tyrion. 'Young, beautiful and female' is quite the saturated field.

Interestingly, I suspect they will go very different with Melisandre compared to the books - perhaps casting a non-Caucasian to accent her exotic flair.

 

[ChickenScratch]

But what if he dies in the middle of writing book 6 say 7 years down the road?

Then he's dead and has given us an impressive body of work. Many artists die leaving unfinished works. I'm happy for the books we have and for the new one coming out soon, lets not start crying doom and gloom just yet. Heck, even Jordan's work is being finished.

 

[Hush]

There was what a 3 year wait in between Potter 5 and 6 right? In that time I read Narnia and LOTR's just for comparrisons sake there a MILLIONS of books read something else while your waiting.

 

[El Bastardo]

Then he's dead and has given us an impressive body of work. Many artists die leaving unfinished works. I'm happy for the books we have and for the new one coming out soon, lets not start crying doom and gloom just yet. Heck, even Jordan's work is being finished.

Though you can consider me in the camp of not wanting anyone but GRRM to write it.

 

[Poeman]

I only want GRRM to write it...Hear's to him living long enough to write the damn book.

As for the question about every season per book rate.

Season 1 finishes in 2011
Book 5 releases in 2011
Season 2 will be 2012
Season 3 will be 2013
Season 4 will be 2014 (should combine book 4/5)
***End of 2014 book 6 should come out, hopefully its 2013***
Season 5 = book 6 =2015
Book 7 in 2015?
Season 6 = book 7 = 2016

I mean it can be done, but it will be tight...depends how long he will take and what the creators of the tv show will do.

 

[BlackLantern]

3rd book has to be broken in two seasons

 

[ChickenScratch]

They might even skip years like Sopranos did sometimes.

 

[El Bastardo]

Higher-ups in the show have already confirmed future books will have some splits.

Apparently A Clash of Kings will not. A Storm of Swords will be split into two seasons. A Feast for Crows / A Dance with Dragons should be about three seasons.

 

[Hush]

Didn't Sopranos split Season like 6 into two parts? BSG has season 4.0 and 4.5 I think that is because of the writers strike though, but it has been done before.