BlackLantern
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it never gets old IMO
i've been reading the book... and my suspiscions have been confirmed about why Jon Arynn was murdered... but the way they were confirmed... just blew my mind!!
MAJOR SPOILER...
I can't believe that Ned just right out told the queen he knew she was sleeping with Jaimie and that ALL her kids are his and not Roberts... and how she just said... yup.
IT BLEW MY FRAGILE LITTLE MIND!!
did I read that right? Charles Dance as Tywin Lannister?
**** yea!!!! I always pictured either him or Patrick Stewart
You know the guy with the glass eye from Last Action Hero is Charles Dance right?
You know the guy with the glass eye from Last Action Hero is Charles Dance right?


Ned's good, but he's a Knight who's glory days are 20 or so years past (more evident when you look at his contemporary Robert) and just wants to live in peace in the north.
I'd say the tv series does far better in showing what youre talking about than the book.
In the book Ned is 35. if Jaime is the same age as Cersei and shes been married to the King for 17 years, that would place Ned and Jaime pretty close age wise.
However the way they cast the show, Ned looks to be hovering around 45 - 50, while Jamie looks mid to low 30s - so yes, it looked like a knight who was in his prime years ago (Ned) was going up against a knight in his prime (Jamie).
I finished the first book and will be starting the second tomorrow. I have to say Im a bit disappointed with the fates of a few of these characters.
The Sansa chapter late in the book.... with Joffrey is *****ED UP! I cant remember the last time I witnessed a character subjected to such outright cruelty.
(DO NOT READ unless you've already read the first book)
Chicken
You mean Ice used to behead Ned?
And yea, the f'ed up chapter was Joffrey rubbing Sansas nose in it - keeping the head dipped in tar to preserve it and showing it to her,etc)
Seems the Lannisters got of pretty easy.

I sincerely hope you guys who have not read the books are not looking on those spoilers. Really, don't even get tempted on this page.