Georgia Governor Signs 'Unprecedented' Gun Rights Bill

[KevanG]

I'd give it a year on the outside. Just look up all those cults and 'retreats' that sprung up over the last century.

 

[Marvolo]

I'd give it a year on the outside. Just look up all those cults and 'retreats' that sprung up over the last century.

Oh theres no doubt itd go bad, but thats the point. Let all these gun toting rednecks who fear for their rights enter the area and have their freedoms and let em see how "awesome" it really is when joe bob and billy ray are having duels in the streets over the last playboy mag.

 

[KevanG]

Of course the problem is when kids get involved then everyone demands the government intervene and then they're seen as the fascist dictatorship everyone 'knows' they are.

 

[enterthemadness]

Oh theres no doubt itd go bad, but thats the point. Let all these gun toting rednecks who fear for their rights enter the area and have their freedoms and let em see how "awesome" it really is.

If you plan it out and already have buildings up and what not running, it won't be that bad. If you let people enter and tell them to build their own buildings, then yes, not good.


but for the sake of being that guy...in this scenario, is the land still owned by America?

 

[KevanG]

Yep. From what I remember they can't divorce land from the US without a presidential decree and the backing of the senate and even then it's supposed to be insanely difficult to get done. At best the US would have to look the other way and hope nobody asked about it.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Nell you're misinterpreting the Spirit of the Constitution which is as follows *ahem* : GUNZ CAUSE 'MERICA PEW PEW PEW! Shoot dem commies who want to take our guns! Y'all need guns everywhere cause everyone else has guns everywhere and you might get shot if you don't have guns!"

Jeez Nell, it's like you're trying to be obtuse here.

I'm sorry, I always forget about the "PEW PEW" clause in the Constitution.

 

[KevanG]

It's under one of the asterisks in there somewhere.

 

[Marvolo]

Yep. From what I remember they can't divorce land from the US without a presidential decree and the backing of the senate and even then it's supposed to be insanely difficult to get done. At best the US would have to look the other way and hope nobody asked about it.

Yeah, due to a law passed back in the 70s I think (correct me if im wrong) social experiments of this nature are heavily regulated and are damn near impossible to do.It was due to some social experiment involving normal non violent people locked in a fake prison playing prisoners and prison guards that went horribly wrong. Within a week or two the "prisoners" were shanking and beating the **** out of "guards" and vice versa and these were normal non criminal people before the experiment. At least one person died and some were raped. There is a movie based on the experiment.

 

[KevanG]

Looked it up. The Stanford Prison experiment. It's on cracked.com, the first one. http://www.cracked.com/article_16239_5-psychological-experiments-that-prove-humanity-doomed_p2.html

 

[Lantern Venom]

There is zero reason to have a gun in a bar, nightclub, or a church. Guns and alcohol should never be mixed so I will never be going in a Georgia bar again.

And what kind of dumbass thinks its smart to allow civilians to carry a gun into a government building? Thats asking for trouble.

I guess Georgia was jealous of the Florida gas station shooting and the Arizona Wal-Mart shooting and wants to have its very own "shoot instead of think" poster child in the near future.

 

[Marvolo]

Looked it up. The Stanford Prison experiment. It's on cracked.com, the first one. http://www.cracked.com/article_16239_5-psychological-experiments-that-prove-humanity-doomed_p2.html

Yep thats the one. Its utter insanity. Starvation social experiments have led to some crazy social behavior too. The participants pretty kuch turn into animals and morality disappears.

 

[KevanG]

Just send out messages to aliens with that in it. "C'mon by to Earth. Here's what we do to each other to see what happens." I'm sure we'll get tons of them flying in.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You know, even in the Old West, you left your guns outside the saloon.

 

[KevanG]

That was America. THIS. IS. 'MURICA!!!

 

[Hal_Jordan]

All class, this guy...

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/cliven-bundy-muses-what-he-knows-about

Cliven Bundy Muses On What He Knows 'About The Negro'

Defiant domestic terrorist Cliven Bundy shares his thoughts on liberty, race, and "the Negro."


The standoff at Bundy Ranch is over, but Cliven Bundy can't quite let go of the limelight, so he is giving a daily press conference. If he has nothing to say, he's got plenty of opinions to share with reporters.




New York Times:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
​

Two things to remember about this. First, Rand Paul and Dean Heller think this guy is a patriot and a hero. Second, the United States Supreme Court thinks race is no longer an issue any of us need to worry about.
Having read Bundy's remarks, is anyone at all surprised that he doesn't recognize the federal government's authority?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Also, a factcheck for the New York Times. This paragraph needs to be corrected:

Mr. Bundy, whose family has grazed cattle here since they homesteaded in the 1870s, owes the government more than $1 million in grazing fees. He stopped paying after the bureau ordered him to restrict the periods when his herd roamed the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area as part of an effort to protect the endangered desert tortoise.
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You got taken for a ride, NYT. Bundy's family didn't buy that land until 1948 and didn't start grazing their cattle on it until 1954.

 

[Destructus86]

Because...you know...grocery stores and churches can be a very dangerous place....

 

[NickNitro]

I just....I don't know how to react to this. This is a real person? With real thoughts in their head? I just......I don't know anymore.....

All class, this guy...

Spoiler

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/cliven-bundy-muses-what-he-knows-about

Cliven Bundy Muses On What He Knows 'About The Negro'

Defiant domestic terrorist Cliven Bundy shares his thoughts on liberty, race, and "the Negro."


The standoff at Bundy Ranch is over, but Cliven Bundy can't quite let go of the limelight, so he is giving a daily press conference. If he has nothing to say, he's got plenty of opinions to share with reporters.




New York Times:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
​

Two things to remember about this. First, Rand Paul and Dean Heller think this guy is a patriot and a hero. Second, the United States Supreme Court thinks race is no longer an issue any of us need to worry about.
Having read Bundy's remarks, is anyone at all surprised that he doesn't recognize the federal government's authority?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Also, a factcheck for the New York Times. This paragraph needs to be corrected:

Mr. Bundy, whose family has grazed cattle here since they homesteaded in the 1870s, owes the government more than $1 million in grazing fees. He stopped paying after the bureau ordered him to restrict the periods when his herd roamed the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area as part of an effort to protect the endangered desert tortoise.
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You got taken for a ride, NYT. Bundy's family didn't buy that land until 1948 and didn't start grazing their cattle on it until 1954.

 

[Teelie]

I think that got posted in the wrong thread.

 

[NickNitro]

I didn't read any of the past pages since I was on last. I just assumed this thread got derailed.

 

[Micromind]

The Safe Carry Protection Act, will allow licensed gun owners to carry their firearms into public places, including bars, nightclubs, schools, churches and government buildings.

wow, great idea.

*note to self - avoid visiting Georgia *

 

[E-Man]

For Bruce Lee's sake won't someone please think of the nunchakus?!

 

[Hal_Jordan]

I just....I don't know how to react to this. This is a real person? With real thoughts in their head? I just......I don't know anymore.....

I think that got posted in the wrong thread.

Yeah, sorry wrong thread. Crazy story though. I can't wait to see how Hannity and the people who were calling this guy a patriot and like the founding fathers react to this news.

 

[Teelie]

I posted in the other thread discussing this that I suspect they will ignore it. I really doubt any will acknowledge it and will start to now distance themselves from him.

 

[zeroapoc]

Yeah, due to a law passed back in the 70s I think (correct me if im wrong) social experiments of this nature are heavily regulated and are damn near impossible to do.It was due to some social experiment involving normal non violent people locked in a fake prison playing prisoners and prison guards that went horribly wrong. Within a week or two the "prisoners" were shanking and beating the **** out of "guards" and vice versa and these were normal non criminal people before the experiment. At least one person died and some were raped. There is a movie based on the experiment.

Nobody died or was raped. You're mixing up reality with the film "The Experiment".

But otherwise yeah. People turned brutal pretty quick.

 

[KevanG]

Because...you know...grocery stores and churches can be a very dangerous place....

Well they're certainly going to be now so this is needed! It just proves what he's saying, by having those on everyone all the time it means that at any time anyone can pull out a gun and shoot but that only means that anyone can shoot back to protect themselves and loved ones.