Ghost Rider IS Being Screened

[Canadian Rider]

If the film was only just finished ... how would they show it before it was done?

 

[Vartha]

I understand what you're saying, I didn't tagret one site tho. I try not to lambast sites I don't know. It seemed to me that at the very begining of Mark being annouced as GR's Writer/Director there was some groans out there because of DareDevil, We kept an open mind because of DD's director's cut.
I do agree that Sony did stumble a bit on the screening tho. That could have been handled alittle better than it was.

 

[Advanced Dark]

If the film was only just finished ... how would they show it before it was done?

By showing a cut that wasn't quite finished to someone you trust.

 

[Vartha]

If the film was only just finished ... how would they show it before it was done?

What Amp is saying is the planning for the Screening for the Critics was handled poorly, not enough notice basically.

 

[Amphibatheatre]

What Amp is saying is the planning for the Screening for the Critics was handled poorly, not enough notice basically.

No, what I'm saying is that the Thursday night screenings wasn't the result of poor planning. Quite the opposite.

director Mark Steven Johnson explained to readers of SuperHeroHype.com , "Sometimes you have critic screenings a week in advance but we weren't ready for that (as I've said before, we took it down to the wire)."

Now if we can dispute what Mark says here by pointing out that the film has just finished an international tour(and I doubt they were showing an incomplete film to European markets) then we can also dispute the reasoning behind the late scheduling of the critic screening being held the night before the films opening. This was planned for a reason. The junket screenings aren't the same as a critic screening and that is what has been the point of argument since that very first New York Post write-up.

Sony is protecting their investment. I don't see how this can be argued anymore. But, you know what? That's their prerogative but they can't then come out and deny that this happening on the very same message boards of the site that got the first look and chance to review the film and not expect for critics to call them out on it. If the Hype genuinely liked the film then good for them but that doesn't mean they weren't used by Sony to get some good word out on a film that they apparently aren't confident enough about to schedule proper critic screenings.

 

[Closerframe]

I must be the only 1 who thinks this movie will suck. Did you guys forget this is the same Director who directed Daredevil one of the worst comicbook movies ever made.

 

[The Ones]

I must be the only 1 who thinks this movie will suck. Did you guys forget this is the same Director who directed Daredevil one of the worst comicbook movies ever made.

Go out, buy the DareDevil Directors Cut and come back here and say it was the worse comic book movie ever made. I will give you my house if you say that truthfuly

 

[gimmen64]

Its great to see that Marvel has come and read what people want in comic book movies. Its us, the fans, that they seek the approval of. I know that Marvel is making the movies for us because we have shown great interest in seeing these project get made. Yes, is important that these movies make money but I know that these movies are made with passion and that's what makes them special. I never thought that I would see so many good comic book movies in my life. They are the reason that I continue to go to the movies. I think GR is heading the right direction and I'm looking foward to seeing it this weekend. t:

 

[Advanced Dark]

Notice all the negative people are new.

 

[Closerframe]

Go out, buy the DareDevil Directors Cut and come back here and say it was the worse comic book movie ever made. I will give you my house if you say that truthfuly

Thats the one I rented and it was the third worse comicbook movie Ive ever seen 1st. Catwomen, 2nd. Elektra

 

[Advanced Dark]

So you've probabl only seen 3 comic book films then.

 

[shinobi89]

So you've probabl only seen 3 comic book films then.

I love how your arguments are relying on a person's post count for their credibility. Perhaps most people have lives and cannot post on message boards as often as you apparently do.

They could have a Super Awesome Director's Cut of Daredevil and it would still suck. And I've seen more than 3 comic book movies.

As for your "MSJ and Sony 'trusting' SHH", of course they trust them. I'd trust them too if I knew I would get positive press out of it. Amazing that there's no name attached to that review. Did the entire staff get to write a paragraph each?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I love how your arguments are relying on a person's post count for their credibility. Perhaps most people have lives and cannot post on message boards as often as you apparently do.

They could have a Super Awesome Director's Cut of Daredevil and it would still suck. And I've seen more than 3 comic book movies.

As for your "MSJ and Sony 'trusting' SHH", of course they trust them. I'd trust them too if I knew I would get positive press out of it. Amazing that there's no name attached to that review. Did the entire staff get to write a paragraph each?

I know what you are saying but have you read the SHH review? It doesnt outright praise the movie, it does criticise the points they think deserved criticising. And Excelsior said GR is not the best CB movie by a long shot but its not the worst either. Thats not ass-kissinbg to Sony at all, ass-kissing would be saying that GR is better than Batman Begins when it wasnt, but non of us know that yet.

 

[Advanced Dark]

If you have such great lives why do you come to forums to post negativity and nothing else.

 

[Closerframe]

So you've probabl only seen 3 comic book films then.

It's all a matter of opinion so dont get so mad cause I hate these movies.

 

[shinobi89]

I know what you are saying but have you read the SHH review? It doesnt outright praise the movie, it does criticise the points they think deserved criticising. And Excelsior said GR is not the best CB movie by a long shot but its not the worst either. Thats not ass-kissinbg to Sony at all, ass-kissing would be saying that GR is better than Batman Begins when it wasnt, but non of us know that yet.

I don't like flame wars about movies. So AD, my apologies. I didn't dig Ghost Rider, but so what. I'm sure people of people will enjoy it and that's what's important.

 

[zanos]

I think that's kind of irrelevant. Sony was betting on SHH to make a positive review by letting them screen it. Tha'ts the whole point.

 

[shinobi89]

If you have such great lives why do you come to forums to post negativity and nothing else.

They're called opinions. The word is in the dictionary.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Closer,

You've never seen it. You're pretty pathetic to start a membership at superherohype only to post on a board about a movie you hate...yet haven't seen. You're probably one of the people that run one of those websites that reported the news and either got banned from previewing GR, or were never invited to begin with. Troll stomping on sour grapes.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Closerflame,

Lets just be completely honest here.

You want the movie to fail...for one reason or another...we want the movie to be a success for one reason or another.

This is a super hero HYPE forum...people come here to give hype for super hero movies they grew up admiring or reading.....and you simply hate these movies like you said....so..who doesnt belong here?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think that's kind of irrelevant. Sony was betting on SHH to make a positive review by letting them screen it. Tha'ts the whole point.

But SHH only gave the movie a favourable review, not a super spectacular one, Excelsior said it isnt the best CB movie and its not the worst, he basically said it average out of all CB movies.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Because he's never invited to any screenings and this is his opportunity to feel important. Maybe Uwe will invite him to Bloodrayne 2.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^ Because he's never invited to any screenings and this is his opportunity to feel important. Maybe Uwe will invite him to Bloodrayne 2.

Well he is entitled to his opinion, you cant begrudge him that, and i myself was worried about the no early screenings thing, but every review we have had so far has been positive, so i am just gonna wait and see until we get more.

 

[Amphibatheatre]

I would like to think the points I have raised are not being lumped into the "He just hates the movie without even seeing it" crowd as I feel my posts are actually relevant to the main discussion of this thread.

I have no stakes in whether Ghost Rider is good or bad film. My main reasons for entering the discussion was that this thread has been mainly devoted to debunking the original New York Post item. There seem to be, however, some serious discrepancies in what Mark Steven Johnson, Avi Arad, Gary Foster and the studio have stated in this thread and what the actual facts are. That's my only interests in this.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I dont think anybody here in this forum other than MSJ or Gary Foster is familiar with how long it takes for a movie to be out for the public to review. All I know is, the movie was done on Jan. 23 less than a month before the movie premiere. Afterwards, they gotta get it into production for the movie theatres, then they gotta ship it. Afterwards, I guess it was what, last week when SHH reviewed it?

SHH ofcourse the forum that MSJ, Gary Foster, Ghost Rider artist Javier Saltaires, and the famous GR writer, Howard Mackie frequents (not to mention Comic Book fans!). Its a no brainer they would let them review it first, at that, an unfinished version of it.

I could care less if Joeshmo critic didnt get to see the movie first, or write his review, because no review of any website or hollywood critic is going to make me not want to watch a movie less or more. Most movie goers are casual movie goers, people who saw a TV spot that aired on TV and say, "cool" I'd like to see that. The only people who go to those critic websites are serious movie goers..and this isn't a serious or even controversial movie. Jesus Christ its a comic book movie, let it go.