Ghost Rider - The NEW Ongoing, Vol 3 (Possible Spoilers)

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to be perfectly honest,
i don't even know.
things have gotten kind of....
well, completely convoluted of the years.
i'll know as i get the scripts i guess.
when ever the oppertunity arises, and i'm allowed
to discuss, i'll provide information.
you guys are all great and i appreciate how you all keep me employed.
i want to do right by you. however, i am a slave to the machine much like the rest of you. i know that's not much of an awnser but that's where i am.
sorry pie.
jarv
 
Yeah, GR's history has become pretty crazy over the years. You'd almost think he was an X-Man. ;)
 
Jean Grey to be precise :funny:

I like blue flame; I gather they're that colour b/c Danny's pissed :woot:
 
I think his soul would go to hell and a new host would be found for Ghost Rider...correct me if I'm wrong it's passed down through male descendants so it would be JB's son or Dan Ketch's (if he had any).

Now that's one logical hypothesis!

Love the new art. Fierce look on DK. Sweet!!
 
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Ahem...anybody who has the latest Old Man Logan comic care to explain?

:hehe:
 
I liked 25 alright, kind of a mixed bag for me.
I do think it was completely over the line to have GR use the Bible as a weapon and in the process the Bible being ripped to shreads. The letters page says they're not anti christian but I'm not sure I believe that after the Bible defacing that happened.

Don't get your panties in a bunch.
It is an artistic representation of a bible being torn to shreds, I'm sure the team didn't rip up a bunch of bibles in order to rehearse.
Even if they did, whats it too you? I'm proud to live in a society where I can rip up a damned bible if I so wish too, but wouldn't do it because it doesn't amount to anything.

You see how your whining and being all sensitive about the mistreatment of the bible? Well Blaze was smart enough to realize that Deacons backwardness was the only edge he had at that moment.
You used fundamentalist hypocrisy against the nutjob, and it was VERY enjoyable to watch.

I'm glad they had the balls to add the scene, and I love the commentary throughout the title so far. And it isn't anti-christian either, looks more like a statement against the idiot fundamentalist who've always plagued religions...

Just because it highlights how unflinchingly bloodthirsty and evil the old testament god is doesn't make it anti-anything.
Face it, your loving god was a big *****e-bag for most of the book, good thing his son was quit a bit more level headed and compromising.
 
OK so I got the Old Man Logan comic. There isn't any reference as to how the Ghost Riders came about, except only that they are a bunch of bike-riding punks who harass San Francisco (Hulks territory). Apparently Hawkeye is well aware of them, but Wolverine had no idea about them.

Other than having flaming bikes, they really don't have any supernatural power, and are taken out quite easily by Hawkeye.
 
OK so I got the Old Man Logan comic. There isn't any reference as to how the Ghost Riders came about, except only that they are a bunch of bike-riding punks who harass San Francisco (Hulks territory). Apparently Hawkeye is well aware of them, but Wolverine had no idea about them.

Other than having flaming bikes, they really don't have any supernatural power, and are taken out quite easily by Hawkeye.

That sucks. I'd like to see Hawkeye go against the real Ghost Rider. hehehe.
 
having avoided any spoilers about the current series and having only just read issue 24 i was like "woah man! dan ketch!!"

now i gotta wait until wednesday to get issue 25:csad:
 
This comic ( #25) was awesome from beginning to end! I loved the fight scene b/w Deacon and Ghost Rider. If I was Ghost Rider, I would have taken those blades with me to dish back at Zadkiel.

The part with the Penance Stare was great. It appears that Deacon had no soul to begin with and he gave it up to Zadkiel, along with his humanity.

The part that kind of bothered me was the fact that Blaze was stabbed and brutalized by Deacon but he was afraid to turn back into Johnny Blaze without killing him? That doesn't make any sense.

The 90s Ghost Rider was vaporized, blown to bits, crushed, even beaten by his own bones, and when he transformed back to Danny, he was totally fine.

Why are they giving him this Movie-like weakness?

Finally read #25! (just now, good grief), and can fianlly read the posts related to it.

About the movie weakness, I think this is more of a marketing issue than anything else. Marvel intentionally gives similarities to the book and the movie for the purpose of appealing and connecting to fans who got into the book cuz of the movie. A vast majority of those who liked the movie never read the comic, so I think Marvel makes connections to the movie in order to give these new readers a chance to relate somehow. I think that it's a strategy to appeal to a larger reader base (a reader base who'se never really been into comics before). Ofcourse this is just my opinion and I may be completely wrong.

My opinion's such cuz since Way's time, I kinda noticed some easter eggs related to the film in the pages of the book:

In one issue, GR had his chain wrapped around his body twice, just like the film.

Then, during the Casualties of War arc, after Jack o' Lantern calls GR "bonehead", he starts mumbling how the word sounds corny, but is actually cool in its corniness ("bonehead" was a word used more than once in the movie, and if I remember right, was one of the many dialouge kinks that movie critics panned cuz it was cliche).

These both happened in issues that came out the following months after the movie's release. Which kinda made me feel like it really was a marketing ploy from Marvel. And now we have this movie weakness of not being able to transform when severely beaten.

But then again, just my thoughts. It may all just be coincidence for all I know.
 
I guess there is a movie like essence in the comic...but its a total contradiction to what GR is all about. As for being called "Bonehead" thats a reference from the comic. GR in the 90s was called Bonehead quite a few times, by heroes, and also by the Caretaker.
 
I guess there is a movie like essence in the comic...but its a total contradiction to what GR is all about. As for being called "Bonehead" thats a reference from the comic. GR in the 90s was called Bonehead quite a few times, by heroes, and also by the Caretaker.

Yeah, I agree. If its for business puposes that they made these decisions, well, I guess thats just the nature of the beast. Thats pretty sad though.

About "bonehead", really? I recall Ghostie and Ol' Flamehead. But bonehead, it seems that I've forgotten already. hehe. :woot:
 
Don't get your panties in a bunch.
It is an artistic representation of a bible being torn to shreds, I'm sure the team didn't rip up a bunch of bibles in order to rehearse.
Even if they did, whats it too you? I'm proud to live in a society where I can rip up a damned bible if I so wish too, but wouldn't do it because it doesn't amount to anything.

You see how your whining and being all sensitive about the mistreatment of the bible? Well Blaze was smart enough to realize that Deacons backwardness was the only edge he had at that moment.
You used fundamentalist hypocrisy against the nutjob, and it was VERY enjoyable to watch.

I'm glad they had the balls to add the scene, and I love the commentary throughout the title so far. And it isn't anti-christian either, looks more like a statement against the idiot fundamentalist who've always plagued religions...

Just because it highlights how unflinchingly bloodthirsty and evil the old testament god is doesn't make it anti-anything.
Face it, your loving god was a big *****e-bag for most of the book, good thing his son was quit a bit more level headed and compromising.

Just an artistic representation. OH, I had no idea :whatever:

It's obvious where you come from..."evil old testament god"
He was not evil, he merely punished those who sinned and unfortunately for you, He will again :cwink:
 
#26 is definitely a Vol. 2 lover's dream come true. Read it and you'll know why :woot:
 
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COVER BY: MARKO DJURDJEVIC
WRITER: JASON AARON
PENCILS: TAN ENG HUAT
LETTERED BY: VC - JOE CARAMAGNA

THE STORY:
This is it, Flamehead fans. The battle you've been waiting years for. Johnny Blaze vs. Danny Ketch. Brother against brother. Ghost Rider against Ghost Rider. Talk about your epic showdowns. This is one for the ages, and it's still only part two of the exciting new arc, "Last Stand of the Spirits of Vengeance."
Parental Advisory …$2.99


PRICE: 2.99
IN STORES: November 19, 2008




COVER BY: CLINT LANGLEY
WRITER: SIMON SPURRIER
PENCILS: JAVIER SALTARES
INKS: TOM PALMER
COLORED BY: DAN BROWN
LETTERED BY: TBD - MID

THE STORY:
For sixty seconds Danny Ketch felt alive, for the first time in years. The Ghost Rider reborn: dark and vicious and magnificent.And then it’s gone. And now there’s a shotgun in Danny’s face, a hole in his soul where there should be fire and smoke and vengeance, and nobody around to tell him what the hell is going on. This is not a good way to start the day, and it’s only going to get worse. The hero who fell from grace continues his agonized scrabble back into the light, via exploding Cornish pixies, vermin in the shadows, and an enormous fiery elephant.
Parental Advisory …$3.99


PRICE: 3.99
IN STORES: November 26, 2008
 
You know what be nice?If they started releasing Vol. 2 in trade.That way can catch up with some of characters appearing in the book now.
 
I'm really apprehensive about the Dan Ketch stuff. I don't like this GR-as-drug metaphor they're using...
 
You know what be nice?If they started releasing Vol. 2 in trade.That way can catch up with some of characters appearing in the book now.

There's Ghost Rider: Resurrection one could start with. It reprints GR Vol. 2 #1-7.
 
I think new story is awesome...but I do not like the new artist at all!! Why couldnt he have been drawing when Way was writing and then have Texaria draw right now?! I really would like to see a new artist for this fight coming up with Johnny and Danny!!
 
Man there are some BIG revelations and even BIGGER questions in the latest issue

I can't believe Dan Ketch had the balls to kill the Caretaker. It looked like he burned the entire place down. In the span of a few pages, Caretaker takes out the Orb, Doghead, and the Death Ninja while Blackout gets a knife in his balls! I don't understand why Zadkiel wants Caretaker dead, but Dan Ketch out of rage kills the Caretaker? That doesn't sound like Dan Ketch at all. Maybe he told Caretaker to go back to the transdimensional bar and stay there?

Huge revelations about Dan Ketch not being the real Ghost Rider...so if hes' not the GR..what spirit possesses him then? Zarathos? Where are the other SOV's..like Vengeance? Also whats up with the cover? The cover makes no sense if you compare it to the story in this comic. This comic should have shown a cover of Dan Ketch facing off against the Caretaker..not DK and JB standing back to back? Man this issue is full of questions with no answers.

All in all a good read...I'm glad to see some of these characters back..and its about time DK returns.
 
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