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Yep, the trailer rocked. Marvel keeps on winning. I was never a Daredevil collector, and always thought he was kind of puny when I was really collecting (1990s).

The tone looks great from the trailer. Seeing that, can anyone suggest to me certain issues or trades that I should pick up to prep a bit???

TIA!
 
THE MAN WITHOUT FEAR
If you're looking for an accessible account of Daredevil's origin, this is your best bet. This has young Matt Murdock being blinded, his training under Stick, the tragedy of Battlin' Jack Murdock, the early doomed romance with Elektra, all the components that would see the making of Daredevil... all with lovely John Romita Jr artwork.

DAREDEVIL: YELLOW
You could go back to the very early Stan Lee/Bill Everett stuff to read Daredevil's earliest adventures, or you could read this retelling of some of Daredevil's earliest battles with the likes of Electro, Purple Man and The Owl as done by the Long Halloween team of Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale.

DAREDEVIL BY FRANK MILLER & KLAUS JANSON
This is the run that really gave birth to the modern Daredevil as he's widely known today. The Kingpin, Bullseye and Elektra are all enduring parts of the Daredevil canon thanks to this run. A bit dated in places? Maybe. But it's comics history, and much of it holds up very well.

BORN AGAIN
In my opinion, the greatest Daredevil story ever, if not the greatest Marvel comic ever. Created by the Batman: Year One team of Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli, it tells the story of The Kingpin discovering Daredevil's secret identity and systematically destroying Matt Murdock's life. The Kingpin has never been more terrifying or evil, and Daredevil has never been more heroic in how he rises up from the very depths of despair.

GUARDIAN DEVIL
It's been a long time since I've read this, so I don't know how it holds up, but Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada's franchise-reviving relaunch got a lot of buzz at the time. Plus, it features some major developments that have gone on to inform Matt Murdock's character development for years to come.

DAREDEVIL BY BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS & ALEX MALEEV
If you're looking for something that will most closely capture the tone of the Netflix show, this run could be your best port of call, since the whole thing reads like a gritty HBO crime drama. The whole run deals with Daredevil's identity being publicly exposed in a tabloid newspaper, and the ramifications of that. Bendis has never been better, and Maleev oozes style. This has been specifically cited by the producers of the show as a stylistic influence, and Charlie Cox calls the White Tiger storyline contained within it his favourite single Daredevil story.

DAREDEVIL BY ED BRUBAKER & MICHAEL LARK
It very much follows in a similar vein to the crime drama stylings of the Bendis/Maleev run, perhaps with a heavier focus on The Hand and the ninja aspects of the character. But the series continued to be really good under Brubaker's pen, with Matt Murdock arguably being put even more mercilessly through the wringer.

PUNISHERMAX
It's not a Daredevil story, but Jason Aaron and Steve Dillon's take on the MAX version of the Punisher introduces various Daredevil characters - Kingpin, Bullseye, Elektra - into the MAX universe, in the process giving us even darker, more twisted versions of their 616 counterparts. It's arguably the best Kingpin story - and the best Bullseye story - of the past decade.

DAREDEVIL BY MARK WAID & CHRIS SAMNEE
The current run on the book. Stylistically, it's a departure from much of the darker, grittier content that has grown synonymous with Daredevil, but it works. It feels refreshing, fun. And that doesn't come at the expense of depth and characterisation, quite the opposite. This, more than any other run, made me LIKE Matt Murdock, and really care about him as a character. Plus, his powers have never looked cooler than when Chris Samnee, Paulo Rivera, Marcos Martin and co are visualising them. Highly recommended.
 
How much are you looking for? If you're willing to drop a couple hundred, my suggestions echo Keyser Soze's almost entirely. I will say that, imo, Guardian Devil does not hold up well. That being said, I think this Netflix story draws from it somewhat, which makes it worth considering.

Barebones suggestion:

The Man Without Fear - Frank Miller's reimagined retelling of the origin story. Great story and probably a big influence.

Frank Miller's three book Omnibus - His original ground-breaking run. It'll give a good sense of the Daredevil character not only at its most iconic but also neither too dark nor too light. Plus, if you get it in the Omnibus, you start with Miller only drawing, so you get some sense of another writer before Miller "defined" Daredevil.

Born Again - One of the greatest Daredevil stories ever, but not something that should be read without the other stories first.

Brian Michael Bendis's three volume Ultimate Collection - The Netflix series will clearly be influenced by it. The story makes a point that Matt Murdock is acting out of character at parts, so, for that reason, I don't think it's a good introduction. If you want to narrow it down, start with Underboss and stop at Hardcore (although, in some ways, I like the story after better). If you get the Ultimate Collection, it's the first two.

I like Brubaker and I like a lot in between. I'm tempted to suggest Ann Noccenti stories, Guardian Devil, Parts of a Hole, etc., but I'm trying to keep it bare bones with what I suggested above.
 
Ann Nocenti's run gets a lot of praise, and I'm sure it was some individual Nocenti issues I read as a kid many years ago which were the first Daredevil comics I ever read... but I didn't include because it does not seem to have been as comprehensively collected as the other runs, and so would be more difficult to get a hold of.
 
As someone who only recently got into Daredevil comics I would recommend starting with "Man Without Fear". It's one of the best origin stories I have ever read. "Born Again" is also absolutely fantastic. You can't go wrong with these two.

I've heard great things about Bendis's run too, so you can look out for those trades (I just ordered the first one myself)
 
Ann Nocenti's run gets a lot of praise, and I'm sure it was some individual Nocenti issues I read as a kid many years ago which were the first Daredevil comics I ever read... but I didn't include because it does not seem to have been as comprehensively collected as the other runs, and so would be more difficult to get a hold of.

The bits that are collected are pretty damn good.

I'm hoping the next DareDevil epic collection covers her run.
 
They're good, but frustrating. Typhoid Mary's story starts in the middle of one and ends in the middle of another. Both are better in context than if you miss those parts. Lone Stranger is missing at least one story (but I'd probably include 274, 278-282). You can skip 275 and 276 (but it's a story featuring the Inhumans and Ultron, so it might be of some interest) and you should skip 277 on principle because it's dumb. Also, don't read Lone Stranger unless you've read the Typhoid Mary saga first.

But I agree, the next collection should be hers. I've actually given it some thought on how one would break it down to be either three or four volumes (three volumes is standard, it seems, but she did write more stories than Frank Miller so four may make sense).
 
They're good, but frustrating. Typhoid Mary's story starts in the middle of one and ends in the middle of another. Both are better in context than if you miss those parts. Lone Stranger is missing at least one story (but I'd probably include 274, 278-282). You can skip 275 and 276 (but it's a story featuring the Inhumans and Ultron, so it might be of some interest) and you should skip 277 on principle because it's dumb. Also, don't read Lone Stranger unless you've read the Typhoid Mary saga first.

But I agree, the next collection should be hers. I've actually given it some thought on how one would break it down to be either three or four volumes (three volumes is standard, it seems, but she did write more stories than Frank Miller so four may make sense).


Even though I have the Typhoid Mary and Lone Stranger trades. I'd happily buy collections that reprint the exact same stories.
 
I'd be tempted to, although I have all but a handful of issues for her, so it's harder to justify.

My three volume set proposal was:
236-256 (The middle of the Typhoid saga, but the end of the Kelco Industries storyline)
257-274 (The rest of Typhoid Mary, what's in Lone Stranger up to the Acts of Vengeance/Ultron crossover)
275-291 (the rest)
There's quite a lot of pages in these, with the first book having 470 or so pages of story and the last one having 392.

Four Volumes was:
236-250
251-265
266-279
280-291
Each has a little over 300 pages, but there's no real logic to the divisions except that Volume 3 starts with the same point as Lone Stranger.
 
And after you read all that, I expect to see a 10 page summary (single spaced, size 12 font) by Monday.
 
i just read the man without fear last night for the first time and it was very very very good.
 
I'm still sad that issue 240 disappeared for me. It's gotta be somewhere in my apartment and my apartment isn't that big, but I have no idea where it is.

Cool story. People complain about it because there's very little Daredevil, but as a journey into the mind of someone deeply disturbing, Rotgut was a very compelling character. He should be a one-off character and I'm glad he hasn't returned. He's part of the filth of Hell's Kitchen, not a supervillain.

The article does a good job of raising one of the important themes of Nocenti's run, which was about whether superheroes's world of violence can sometimes be the problem instead of the solution. Don't Touch Me/Touch Me that followed does an excellent job of exploring that as well through the eyes of Karen Page (the voodoo story isn't as strong, though).
 
If I were to recommend what someone should read before the series without having to spend money on all these "essentials", I'd say read Bendis. More then MWF or Miller's volumes...It's the best run (imo) and probably the one that inspired the show's aesthetic more then anything.
 
While true, I also think it's important to keep in mind that everyone in his stories was saying Matt Murdock was behaving out of character. It's possible to read the story and not catch that and then have a false impression of the character.
 
i read man without fear and am now 2 issues into born again. born again so far is pretty damn good.
 
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Just finished reading Born Again. A fantastic read from beginning to end.
 
Is it just me or is DG Chichester's run absolutely terrible?

Okay, so he retconned Elektra lives again to be non-canon just so he can explain how Bullseye is still alive and made it so Elektra never died a second time. I may love Elektra lives Again but it caused some continuity problems and fans wanted Elektra back. That was fair enough.

But his writing was abysmal. It was all right-wing politics which came across as preachy and pop-culture references that were both out of place and out of character. I love Scott McDaniel's art on the series but it's kind of ruined by Chichester's lack of writing skill.
 
Last Rites is a solid story. If he had stopped there, I would have thought it would have been OK. But Fall from Grace is painful to go through.

I thought he made an interesting contrast to Ann Nocenti that preceded him. He's very macho and clearly right-wing, while she's the exact opposite in everything. I get the impression, for him, every story can be solved with a fight involving a crossover villain and maybe a big gun.
 
Last Rites is a solid story. If he had stopped there, I would have thought it would have been OK. But Fall from Grace is painful to go through.

I thought he made an interesting contrast to Ann Nocenti that preceded him. He's very macho and clearly right-wing, while she's the exact opposite in everything. I get the impression, for him, every story can be solved with a fight involving a crossover villain and maybe a big gun.

I never read Last Rites. I did read Fall from Grace. I feel like Chichester took everything people liked about Frank Miller and Ann Nocenti's Daredevil and vomited all over it to the point where Marvel needed to put Jimmy Palmiotti and Kevin Smith on the title in order for it to sell again since he damaged the IP so much, just like Terry Kavenaugh was butchering Iron Man and Spider-Man and Tom DeFalco was destroying the Fantastic Four.

Not that all mid-90s Marvel was bad. The various X-Men titles were solid and Hulk was still going strong. Marvel let success go to its head from the early 90s and didn't bother trying to replace David Michilinie on Spider-Man, Roy Thomas on Avengers or Len Kaminski on Iron Man with somebody who actually got the characters and instead hired people who would just phone it in for anything which wasn't Hulk or X-Men. Things didn't get better until Heroes Reborn which fixed most of what they were putting out except they ruined the X-Men to do so and Spider-Man still sucked but all the other titles were good. Marvel didn't get back to who they were before 1994 until 2001 when they put JMS on Spider-Man and Grant Morrison, Chris Claremont, Greg Rucka and Peter Milligan on X-Men. That's assuming you ignore the entire Chuck Austen mess.
 

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