Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

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Indeed, that's how I've always described Godzilla's characters. Servicable, not much more and not much less.

Transformers "characterization" is an endless slew of wildly unfunny "comic relief."

Even if the characters in Godzilla were rather bland, atleast they weren't mind-numbingly annoying.

I for one find it interesting that both Godzilla and PRim have landed upon us and delivered the very improvements fans demanded from the TF films from years. Safe to say the audience has spoken. At a certain point one can only blame the films they don't like so much, can content that the supporters are off base to no end. Can keep proclaiming what is incoherent and unentertaining..and so on.
The aether has spoken as to what is actually preferred vs what is simply 'preferred' in the realm of entertainment.

The last recourse is obvious; turn the attention to the flaws of the greater audience for they seemingly have different preferences.
 
Yeah, but the moments where he makes direct eye contact with the lead human character, and having "King of the Monsters: Savior of the City?" on the news broadcast as he heads back into the water, they were definitely playing him up as the hero in this movie.

It felt like a superhero movie, only with giant monsters as the superheroes/supervillains.

Didn't bother me at all, I loved it, but that's definitely how it came across.

I've read somewhere that when Legendary were negotiating with Toho Studios the latter insisted that Godzilla be depicted as a hero of sorts. I know some fans have moaned about this but quite frankly most people on the planet have always known the character as the monster that fights the bad guy monsters and not as the destroyer of worlds.

I loved it to as it came across as a more realistic version/homage of the campy Showa era Godzilla films of the 70s where the character had morphed into a superhero.
 
oh thats cool... i've always loved that particular movie
 
Yeah, like Return of Godzilla....

When, guys, WHEN?!
 
As much crap people give Bay for his human characters in the Tranformers movies ( rightfully so in some cases) , I would have rather had watched the human cast from Age of Extinction over all of the human characters in Godzilla minus Bryan Cranston. They were all so boring and dull that I wish the Muto's or Godzilla himself has steped on them or eaten them.
 
The humans in TF4 were more entertaining, but only because they were so awful it was incredibly hilarious.

"Oh mah gawd, did ya drive from iyaland to amerikaw, Shane?"
"Oh mah gawd, no smoochin' in frontame, Tessa!"
 
I found nothing remotely entertaining about the 'characters' in Transformers, just mind-numbingly stupid...even great actors like Stanley Tucci are reduced to asinine 'comic relief' goons.

I'd take characters that are fairly generic, but atleast not headache-incuding over that.
 
I found nothing remotely entertaining about the 'characters' in Transformers, just mind-numbingly stupid...even great actors like Stanley Tucci are reduced to asinine 'comic relief' goons.

I'd take characters that are fairly generic, but atleast not headache-incuding over that.


Trust me. It's not a compliment.
 
So I finally saw Godzilla (2014).

Aaaaaand........ I'm mixed.

Subjectively, as a fan of the Toho films, I loved it. I though it captured the spirit of those films perfectly, and was a really enjoyable throwback to those films. Much moreso than the 1998 attempt, which failed in every regard.

Objectively, however, I think it did fail in one of its most important areas. It failed to make the human characters interesting and truly engaging outside of their base story. The characters where there..... but that was kind of it.

I REALLY wanted to love Ford, and I was able to love Cranston as his dad for what little we got. But jeez..... he did so little really. In fact, I'm having a hard time remember if he even spoke more than one or two lines per scene in each scene following the first act.


And yeah...... I can see why people said we didn't get enough of Goji. We really didn't until the third act. And this is a problem when, as mentiomed before, the main human character fails to engage.

And god damn it did it frustrate me for them to keep starting a fight between Godzilla and the MUTOs, and then jump cut to the aftermath, or a long period after the fight. That said...... what fighting we did get was ****ing phenomonal. That was as Godzilla as it could get.

Overall...... I give it an 7.9/10.

It was close to being a 10, but the flaws I mentioned brought it down. That said, I think its faithfulness to the Toho spirit and style of storytelling overpowered the flaws it had. Because, ultimately, that's what I went into this movie for; a modern, american update on Toho's Godzilla. And it was done so well in that regard that, IMO, you could almost reshoot/remake this Toho style, with japanese actors, and it would feel about the same.
 
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TL;DR:

Gareth Edwards and Co. do a phenomenal job of making this a true, spritual successor to the original Toho films (much moreso than Roland Emmerich's 1998 attempt), but they fail to make the human characters at all engaging outside of the first act (or any more engaging than you might see IN a Toho original), and in a film that barely shows its titular character in ANY extended fashion until the last 20 minutes of the film.


Faithful to the originals, but in the right AND wrong ways.

7.9/10.
 
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Trust me. It's not a compliment.

Haha I actually find the Transformers entertaining (they're not high class entertainment, just popcorn flicks) but none of the characters in the series are better than anything that was presented in the new Godzilla.

All of the TF characters are essentially comic relief sandwiched between huge action sequences. Godzilla actually gives its characters depth & more to do than run/drive around screaming like idiots & dropping one-liners.

Personally, I find it ironic that people have been clamoring for "better" blockbusters that are smarter & less Transformers-ish but when they come around the characters are "boring" & "uninteresting."

To be honest, there's no difference in the interest level of the cast of a classic like Alien & Godzilla. In fact, the former has characters that are far, far less interesting aside from literally three people. And yet, everyone loves that film & the way it treats its characters and sets up the monster but hate how it was done for Godzilla (a movie where Gareth states that the aforementioned film was a big inspiration).

Why the unnecessary double standard?

Fans don't know what they want. Best thing filmmakers can do is to mostly ignore them & make their own film.
 
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If I knew there was a Godzilla discussion happening here, I would've joined sooner, thread 13 already?

Anyways I saw the movie when it came and even went to see it again. I really enjoyed this movie.

The thing is the only thing I saw about this movie was the teaser trailer and nothing else. I thought this would be Godzilla going crazy with humans finding ways to knock him down I had no idea that there would be other monsters. Imagine my face especially during the nuclear plant scene. I expected Godzilla to pop out, instead some weird bug did. I was so happy that Godzilla would now have a rival. Forward to mid-movie another one showed up. I was way too happy, I knew Godzilla would get a serious beating. They really build-up the monsters really well. The whole part with Bryan Cranston was well made. He did his part so I didn't mind he died.

Unfortunately the movie kinda fell of in the third act and it's not Godzilla fault. I just didn't care about the humans, they show too much of them. The whole scene where they go downtown to drop the bomb meanwhile Godzilla is fighting and I'm only catching glimpse? what the...? I should've knew something like that would've happen especially during the Hawaii fight scene. I don't want to see people in the train looking at Godzilla fighting or TV stations showing "dinosaurs" what the..? some of you saying the humans were "bland" i don't know about that but honestly they took away from the movie quite a bit. I understand the humans in the beginning but after Godzilla and the Muto's showed and the battlefield picked, just get them out the way

This movie gets a solid 8.5/10 from me. Very good build up, I didn't watch no other trailer so knowing there two monsters really did for me. The human interactions and the lack of fight scene kinda dropped it to a 8. The atomic breath to the mouth earns it another .5, favorite scene for me along with the earlier one where his tail starts to light up.

I didn't grew up during the old Godzilla films but my father a great Godzilla fan and made me watch a lot of the old ones and yes it did follow to same formula. it stayed true to the old movies. At least the ones with other monsters in them
 
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I've read somewhere that when Legendary were negotiating with Toho Studios the latter insisted that Godzilla be depicted as a hero of sorts. I know some fans have moaned about this but quite frankly most people on the planet have always known the character as the monster that fights the bad guy monsters and not as the destroyer of worlds.

I loved it to as it came across as a more realistic version/homage of the campy Showa era Godzilla films of the 70s where the character had morphed into a superhero.

In the 90s films Godzilla fights other monsters but quite often remains an even bigger problem himself. He was rarely a "hero" in that era of films.
 
blu ray.com took down the date for the blu ray release of the film. Either they jumped the gun, or the date was wrong. Either way, I'm angry :cmad:
 
Hopefully they promise the fans no cutting away from the action in the sequel as that will need to be addressed
 
Apparently they think it's okay to not deliver on anything until the last 20 minutes.
 
Or fans have become so spoiled with films like Transformers that are 100% action that they can't understand when enough is actually enough.

Point blank, if you're complaining that Godzilla wasn't shown enough in said film you should have that complaint for the original & many other classic monster movies. It's a trivial complaint & a useless double standard.

Probably one that I won't ever understand.
 
Or fans have become so spoiled with films like Transformers that are 100% action that they can't understand when enough is actually enough.

Point blank, if you're complaining that Godzilla wasn't shown enough in said film you should have that complaint for the original & many other classic monster movies. It's a trivial complaint & a useless double standard.

Probably one that I won't ever understand.

Nobody would complain about too little action in Godzilla if the human characters were more interesting.

Have you seen anybody complain that Dawn of the Planet of the Apes has too little action?
 
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^ Clearly missed the entire point of my post.
 
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