Gordon and Batman in Burtons films.

[Carusos Shades]

This was one of the most disappointing aspects of those movies. The relationship between them is never explored at all,so vital in the comics. The dialogue amounts to something like "thanks for saving the day Batman"!!

 

[Gianakin_]

Gordon was a goon working for the good guys, nothing more.
However, Alfred was great. I prefer Caine, but Gough made excellent, intelligent and equipped with a very fitting sense of humor portrayal of Alfred.
Yes, the development is minimal, for both of those characters, but Alfred was so great in these that I don't care. He was the best part in BF and B&R.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I agree that Alfred is great. But to get back on Gordon, I thought he was terrible. In Batman Returns, he and Batman have a total of one interactions and Batman doesn't even speak to him. Ugh. In Batman '89, they had no dialogue together. But like it's been brought up before, Gordon of Burton's films was based on the Gordon from the 40s who was old and fat, and basically had no relation to the Batman.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Yeah, that's the downside of going back to Batman's first published year for your source, you lose the Gordon/Batman relationship.

But hey, accurate to the era they went from. They get props for that.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

It never bothered me.

 

[Milu]

One of my favorite Gordon moments in the original Burton/Schumacher films is in Returns when he shows the evidence (a Batarang) and says it is "purely coinidental." At least it shows he knows Batman way better than all those other finger-pointing Gothamites .

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

It never bothered me at the time before i read the comics, and it doesn't now.
The reason: Its faithful to the ear of the late 30's early 40's.

 

[money]

This was one of the most disappointing aspects of those movies. The relationship between them is never explored at all,so vital in the comics. The dialogue amounts to something like "thanks for saving the day Batman"!!

Yeah, and when he says that line, they make sure Keaton is standing on some steps so we cant see that he's shorter than pat hingle!!

 

[Cyrusbales]

In the original comics, Batman's relations with the police wasn't brilliant, I think burton went for this more, fair enough Gordon wasn't really put to much use, but in B89 he provided what he needed to whilst knox carried other elements of the film that would normally have been filled with Gordon.

Gordon in BB is quite similar to knox in B89 in the first halves.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

This was one of the most disappointing aspects of those movies. The relationship between them is never explored at all,so vital in the comics. The dialogue amounts to something like "thanks for saving the day Batman"!!

Well, with the exception of playboy Bruce Wayne being friends with Gordon, it's pretty much exactly like it was in the old-school comics that Burton got most of his inspiration from.

 

[SHADOWBAT69]

Yeah, and when he says that line, they make sure Keaton is standing on some steps so we cant see that he's shorter than pat hingle!!

Actually Keaton is walking on the street and it goes on a downward slope. Hingle and Murphy are above him as he walks, so youre wrong on this poor attempt to try to critisize Keatons height.


"Thanks for saving the day Batman. Looks like the circus gang is back."

"We'll see."

 

[The Shredder]

I like Pat Hingle alright as an actor, but I have to agree that the relationship, or lack there of, between Batman and Gordon in the Burton/Schumacher films left much to be desired. Come to think of it, Hingle's Gordon came across as someone suffering from some serious delusions of grandeur when right after The Joker dropped the cathedral bell in Batman 1989 blocking the entrance way, Hingle's Gordon makes a pathetic attempt to move the bell himself! Thankfully, that didnt last long.

 

[The Joker]

I actually liked that Keaton's Batman was so much of a loner beast that he didn't form friendships with anyone.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

Yeah, I agree every time I watch these movies they have absolutely no relationship at all... : only downside to those TWO films...IMO.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I like Pat Hingle alright as an actor, but I have to agree that the relationship, or lack there of, between Batman and Gordon in the Burton/Schumacher films left much to be desired. Come to think of it, Hingle's Gordon came across as someone suffering from some serious delusions of grandeur when right after The Joker dropped the cathedral bell in Batman 1989 blocking the entrance way, Hingle's Gordon makes a pathetic attempt to move the bell himself! Thankfully, that didnt last long.

Rofl...

PLEASE DEAR I'M NOT TOO OLD COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[K.B.]

I liked it actually (B 89/ BR) it was a really interesting take and one of my fav parts was the one mentioned above in BR when Bats is walking down the street.

 

[Joker]

as has already been said, they movies were based on the 40's version of batman, where gordon and batman had no real relationship, so it was fine.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Rofl...

PLEASE DEAR I'M NOT TOO OLD COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, Gordon was pathetic in that movie.

Then again, so did pretty much everyone else, so he shouldn't feel too bad.

 

[TromaFreak64]

It never bothered me at the time before i read the comics, and it doesn't now.
The reason: Its faithful to the ear of the late 30's early 40's.

Should Penguin go to the moon and have giant worms that attack Batman - cause that was the same era as well??????

 

[El Payaso]

Should Penguin go to the moon and have giant worms that attack Batman - cause that was the same era as well??????

How about focusing on the good ideas of that era instead?

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Should Penguin go to the moon and have giant worms that attack Batman - cause that was the same era as well??????

That would be the fifties, but then, neither of those things ever happened.

Nice try at anti-Burton slander. Get a brain and then come back. You fail at life. t:

 

[Gianakin_]

I actually don't take as a factor that it was comic accurate. An adapatation should take the good parts of any era and combine them. Of course, Burton probably thought this WAS a good part of the era, but anyway. I prefer the friendship version of Bats/ Gordon anyday.

 

[david icke]

Actually Keaton is walking on the street and it goes on a downward slope. Hingle and Murphy are above him as he walks, so youre wrong on this poor attempt to try to critisize Keatons height.


"Thanks for saving the day Batman. Looks like the circus gang is back."

"We'll see."

Doesnt matter who was above or below, they werent on a level field, the shot always looked to me like they were getting past the high differences, fact is, no matter how good he was in other aspects, MK was kinda short. I watched some of BR not too long ago when it was on U.K. tv, I happened to be watching it with my sister who isnt that familiar with it, she burst out laughing at that shot as it seemed so obvious to her that they were using the different walkway levels to get past the fact that it may have looked silly to have Batman smaller/shorter/not the kind of proportions you'd expect in comparison to CG. Seemed to me to be a fair observation, normally we'd expect Bats to stand and discuss the crooks next move with Gordon as that might actually help, and I'm sorry but that get out clause folk have been bringing up of saying the movies were exclusively based on the earliest Batman stories doesnt always wash, Catwoman was based on a more modern interpretation, same as the Batmobile and gadgets.

 

[money]

I think its just a problem with the casting. I think in the comics, gordon is supposed to be about 40-45. Hingle looks late 60's. A freindship is unlikely with that age difference! He's already got alfred if he wants to shoot the s**t with some old guy!

 

[Milu]

Rofl...

PLEASE DEAR I'M NOT TOO OLD COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a shame his last quote in the Burton/Schumacher saga had to be that one .