Grayskull: Masters of the Universe - Part 2

[ShredderX]

IMO, people overestimate the appeal of MoTU, it is just Conan in space.
One movie will be made, the success will be mediocre at best and that will be all.
That being said, I only know the 80' version of MoTU and from what I've read on SHH the new version ( both comic and cartoon ) was popular in the US.

The comparison isn't fair but look what happened to the new Thundercats cartoon, it get cancelled after one season and that was also a beloved 80' show.

That was because of the stupidity of the Cartoon Network to make room for more live action shows like " Level Up". The New Thundercats had good ratings, and lasted two seasons.

 

[Destructus86]

IF done correctly, He-Man could do VERY well at the box office and even stay very close to the source material.

But this is hollywood...and it won't happen.

 

[Airwings]

Rattlor, Tung Lashor and Sssqueeze are not warriors one want to meet in a dark alley. But Snake Face is the most dangerous one of them all. How can anybody fight him?
Will Man-At-Arms build Roboto in the sequel? The way I see it, it might be the only chance to defeat the Snake Men. I guess a robot can't turn to stone.

Here's a pic from the amazing, incredible nebezial:

I wonder what will happen when Skeletor finds out he's betrayed by Kobra Khan and King Hiss. At first, they work together, but suddenly things will change. Unlike Skeletor, King Hiss isn't interested in Castle Greyskull, right? He wants the three towers.
With Snake men in the second film, I think it's very likely that Zodac will ascend from the universe and fight the snake lord. Maybe he's the only one who can take him down?

 

[rogue trooper]

IF done correctly, He-Man could do VERY well at the box office and even stay very close to the source material.

But this is hollywood...and it won't happen.

I can understand the pessimism, but the fact that the recent Marvel films have stayed close to the source material and be financially successful, gives me, personally, more reason to be a little bit optimistic right now about a He-Man film.

 

[Destructus86]

I can understand the pessimism, but the fact that the recent Marvel films have stayed close to the source material and be financially successful, gives me, personally, more reason to be a little bit optimistic right now about a He-Man film.

The only reason those films did well was because they were controlled by Marvel Studios and not a major studio.

 

[Thundarr]

I think three movies and each one doing more than the last is more than a fluke. Plus it was based on one of the most beloved pieces of literature ever.

He-Man is just a toyline that was really huge and popular in the 1980's. Maybe they think He-Man's popularity in the 1980's was a fluke.

The thing is, unlike other trilogies like The Matrix and the Star Wars Prequels, LOTR was all shot at once. It's essentially one 12 hour long movie, just as the book was one really long book which was broken up and sold as a trilogy (not quite 100% the same, as the movies were meant to be shown as a trilogy). Other movies like The Matrix and Star Wars were each written & shot after their predecessors. Because of the WAY LOTR was produced, that might make other producers see it as a fluke.


He-Man is a toyline and animated series that is enjoyed by many to this day. I would hardly call it "just a toyline". Go-Bots. Now THAT is JUST a toyline. I doubt a live action adaptation of Go-Bots would be seen as anything other than a second rate Transformers. He-Man may have been a fad, but I would hardly call it a fluke.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah Thundarr that doesn't count. New Line said three books three movies. They were all shot at once but that wouldn't even happen with a new He-Man movie. There was no fluke with Lord of the Rings. If it was a fluke the studios wouldn't be going all in with the Hobbit as well as approving a THIRD movie for the Hobbit trilogy now since they apparently have enough footage.

 

[Thundarr]

Yeah Thundarr that doesn't count. New Line said three books three movies. They were all shot at once but that wouldn't even happen with a new He-Man movie. There was no fluke with Lord of the Rings. If it was a fluke the studios wouldn't be going all in with the Hobbit as well as approving a THIRD movie for the Hobbit trilogy now since they apparently have enough footage.

But it's the same company, and The Hobbit is being shot the same way.

I'm talking about how OTHER companies might see the trilogy. Ever since Star Wars Original Trilogy, most movie serials are shot one at a time and become progressively worse. Shooting LOTR and The Hobbit all at once prevents this.

My point is that the success of a SCI-FI/FANTASY film might be seen as a fluke. If The Hobbit becomes a huge hit, it will show that a Sci-Fi/Fantasy film might have the potential to become a huge hit. And both The Hobbit and He-Man are beloved children's properties. This makes the success/failure of The Hobbit a good measure of how the public might see a He-Man movie.

Thus if The Hobbit is a success, then I think He-Man might get made sooner rather than later.

 

[TheVileOne]

Hobbit and He-Man are really nothing alike so I don't see the relation.

Hobbit's not really science fiction. That material was already proven anyway with The Lord of the Rings.

Material that has a greater bearing on He-Man is really John Carter or GI JOE 2.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

That was because of the stupidity of the Cartoon Network to make room for more live action shows like " Level Up". The New Thundercats had good ratings, and lasted two seasons.

Agreed both motu and tc suffered due to cn. During the 200x run the show was rarely repeated, advertised and was changed constantly. One week it was in prime time the next 5 am with a new ep

 

[Panthro]

Agreed both motu and tc suffered due to cn. During the 200x run the show was rarely repeated, advertised and was changed constantly. One week it was in prime time the next 5 am with a new ep

And now DC Nation's been removed until 2013. Clearly, Cartoon Network is unreliable, if not straight up evil.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Yeah, it peeves me off to think what could have been if the 200X series continued:

- Fisto being Teela's wayward biological father (I liked that storyline, so sue me)
- The rise of Hordak and the Evil Horde
- He-man and the last of the heroes having to go underground and form a resistance
- She-Ra!!

 

[Panthro]

Yeah, it peeves me off to think what could have been if the 200X series continued:

- Fisto being Teela's wayward biological father (I liked that storyline, so sue me)
- The rise of Hordak and the Evil Horde
- He-man and the last of the heroes having to go underground and form a resistance
- She-Ra!!

I was extremely disappointed that we didn't get to see those story-lines play out.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I was extremely disappointed that we didn't get to see those story-lines play out.

On the plus side, the series ended before we were forced to endure Snout Spout and Rio Blast.

 

[Thundarr]

Hobbit and He-Man are really nothing alike so I don't see the relation.

Hobbit's not really science fiction. That material was already proven anyway with The Lord of the Rings.

Material that has a greater bearing on He-Man is really John Carter or GI JOE 2.

He-Man is both Sci-Fi AND Fantasy. There are sorcerers and barbarians as well as lasers and space ships. The Hobbit is strictly Fantasy, but both are equally loved by children.

I've never seen nor read John Carter, so I can't comment on that. But GI Joe 2 is only similar in the fact that it was also a beloved children's cartoon and toy line.

I still maintain that the success or failure of The Hobbit will have a greater bearing on the making of He-Man than GI Joe or John Carter.

 

[Airwings]

When Snake Men return from limbo in the second film, I think we will see a lot more of Eternia. Sy-Klone will come from the region called Sands of Time. And Buzz-Off and his race will be involved as well. With King Hiss on the loose, the stakes will be bigger.

Haven't the bee people got some difficulties with accepting the Kingdom of Avion? That would lead to some tense moments when they have to work together. And I believe the plot will benefit from it.

 

[ShredderX]

I was extremely disappointed that we didn't get to see those story-lines play out.

The comics based on the 2002 toon from Image were good too. It was announced that the 3rd volume were going to be more darker and edgy, an introduce She-Ra, Hordak, King Grayskull, and He-Ro, but it was cancelled when the toon was cancelled.

 

[X Knight]

been rewatching the LOTR films.

a MOTU film on the same level would be epic!!!

 

[rogue trooper]

I still maintain that the success or failure of The Hobbit will have a greater bearing on the making of He-Man than GI Joe or John Carter.

I personally think Thor:The Dark World will be the one producers will be looking at when deciding to finally launch He-Man.

 

[Thundarr]

I personally think Thor:The Dark World will be the one producers will be looking at when deciding to finally launch He-Man.

Possibly. Both Thor and The Avengers were very successful financially and critically. If Thor: The Dark World is also successful, it may give producers hope for a He-Man film. Add to that the potential success of The Hobbit, and we may see a He-Man film yet.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I personally think Thor:The Dark World will be the one producers will be looking at when deciding to finally launch He-Man.

That's an interesting comparison. When I was watching Thor 1, I kept thinking, "wow, this is almost like a New Gods movie," which is a comparison that has been made to MOTU as well.

 

[Airwings]

been rewatching the LOTR films.

a MOTU film on the same level would be epic!!!

I have always wanted that. But people keep saying that it won't happen
I like the fact that they're well-done, and every character gets screen time and lines to say. And LOTR isn't overly fun either, the films have a serious dramatic feel to them. Just imagine MOTU done this way. Wow.

Writing all my previous posts about the film and its sequel, I have always had the LOTR feel in my mind. Just add some high tech, not too much. The first MOTU should really have more of a medieval touch, just like Tokien's creation. Eternia is a savage world with knights, kings, sorcerers, dragons and different races, but the sci fi element is always there.

 

[Panthro]

That's an interesting comparison. When I was watching Thor 1, I kept thinking, "wow, this is almost like a New Gods movie," which is a comparison that has been made to MOTU as well.

Jack Kirby helped create Thor before he went on to do New Gods at DC so it shouldn't be that surprising.

 

[Airwings]

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[Bowie]

Will only see if Dolph Lundgren plays He-Man.