Green Lantern 2

[Closerframe]

If they go for Stewart, I would like to see Idris Elba. If they stick with Jordan, I'd like to see them replace Reynolds with perhaps Bradley Cooper replacing him. Ryan Gosling should be the Flash--he has the look and attitude.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Elba is way too charismatic for Stewart.

 

[Closerframe]

Elba is way too charismatic for Stewart.

I'm sure he can gauge his charisma.

 

[chamber-music]

I don't think it really matters what John Stewart is like personality wise in the comics in regards to what he would be like in films.

Robert Downey Junior injected some of his own personality into the movie Tony Stark and it worked fine. I'm sure an actor could inject some charisma into John Stewart and make him entertaining while still retaining the essence of the character.

 

[DrCosmic]

Elba would be a great choice, lend an edge to John Stewart, and some pathos and generally a great performance all around.

Who would you guys cast as Katma Tui? Fatality? Mogo?
Tawny Young?

 

[Karelia]

If they go with John Stewart in GL/Justice League, then Idris Elba would be an awesome choice. He's a great actor.

All I really know about Stewart is what I saw throughout the JL animated show.

 

[metaphysician]

Its for the best. In the comics, John Stewart's most defining characteristic is his predilection for involuntary manslaughter, including at least two planets ( maybe a third, I can't remember ).

Particularly with the failure of the first GL movie, any sequel or reboot *really* needs to hit it out of the park. Casting an especially charismatic actor? A very, very good idea.

 

[Doc Ock]

eh I think people should let Strong as Sinestro go. I liked him a lot but i dont see him coming back. Which sucks because that makes 2 franchise starters that he was in that didnt make a lot of money, GL and John Carter (which I really liked)

I don't seem him coming back either, but I desperately fool myself he could return. Hail Sinestro! I liked John Carter a lot too, maybe Andrew Stanton could of done a better GL film...

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Its for the best. In the comics, John Stewart's most defining characteristic is his predilection for involuntary manslaughter, including at least two planets ( maybe a third, I can't remember ).

Particularly with the failure of the first GL movie, any sequel or reboot *really* needs to hit it out of the park. Casting an especially charismatic actor? A very, very good idea.

Although I haven't read or watched any John Stewart stories really, I always thought John's backstory had more story potential than Hal.

Leaving the military and then being sucked back into it essentially with the GL Corps always seemed interesting to me.

GLCorps could be the superhero movie that deals with themes of war (I can't think of any others that do); in addition to self-forgiveness, trauma vs clarity, optimism/pessimism, destiny (given that he was an architect before; a pretty good prior occupation for being a GL. Coincidence?), etc

 

[MadVillainy]

I only know John from the DCAU and from comics where he wasn't the lead. I like him a lot, but he seems more like a team player rather than a starring role.

If they want to use him in JL then ok I get that.

BUt Im just curious who is John's supporting cast. I mean friends, love interests, etc. outside of the core? Also who is his arch enemy? Hal has Sinestro and Parallax (although both are kinda arch enemies for the core in general), Kyle has Major Force (kinda), Oblivion and Nero who does John have?

And that's not a knock at John i actually wanna know

 

[Doc Ock]

Although I also want John Stewart outside of the DCAU I don't know too much about the character...I'm curious too.

 

[DrCosmic]

Although I haven't read or watched any John Stewart stories really, I always thought John's backstory had more story potential than Hal.

Leaving the military and then being sucked back into it essentially with the GL Corps always seemed interesting to me.

GLCorps could be the superhero movie that deals with themes of war (I can't think of any others that do); in addition to self-forgiveness, trauma vs clarity, optimism/pessimism, destiny (given that he was an architect before; a pretty good prior occupation for being a GL. Coincidence?), etc

Agreed. Stewart definitely has a unique story in superherodom, one which involves abject failure, and recovery from it. The architect angle gives so much credence to the way he builds. It's awesome. His philosophy and breaking down different types of structures (ideas, music, arguments) into their components would be really incredible.

I only know John from the DCAU and from comics where he wasn't the lead. I like him a lot, but he seems more like a team player rather than a starring role.

If they want to use him in JL then ok I get that.

BUt Im just curious who is John's supporting cast. I mean friends, love interests, etc. outside of the core? Also who is his arch enemy? Hal has Sinestro and Parallax (although both are kinda arch enemies for the core in general), Kyle has Major Force (kinda), Oblivion and Nero who does John have?

And that's not a knock at John i actually wanna know

Stewart's original love interest was Tawny Young, a reporter, while his main love interest was his trainer and eventual wife Katma Tui. She was Sinestro's replacement on Korugar when he was kicked out. His tertiary/new love interest is Yrra Cynril, which segues nicely into his villains, because she was the Green Lantern hunter called Fatality before becoming a Star Sapphire. She was the closest thing to an arch nemesis he had for a while, I think. His initial adventure involved corrupt Senator Jeremiah Crutcher. Also, the mad Guardian Appa Ali Apsa, once supporting cast for Green Arrow/Lantern, became a major villain for John Stewart.

Edit:

If I were to do GL2, It'd be Sinestro and Hal-Parallax as the villains and John, Katma, Kilowog as the principal lanterns, with Fatality and Appa Ali Apsa as supporting characters. I'd adapt Xanshi's destruction into John being confident/proud (or too ashamed from a similar military failure) to kill Hal-Parallax to stop him from destroying Xanshi. Appa Ali Apsa would be a sort of Palpatine esque seemingly good but actually bad shadow guy. If it were a fresh reboot of GL, with John as the main/first GL or whatever, I'm not really sure what I would do, honestly.

 

[MadVillainy]

Thanks

I still dont know. Hal is still my favorite, and I want him in the next movie, but I do see the logic of not next time around.

GL is lucky that instead of rebooting with the same character as the lead they have 3 others to choose from. However, Im still rooting for Hal to get another shot with John, Guy, and Kyle being introduced not long after.

Here's another question: If they use Hal and they reboot, should they do the origin again? I think I know what most will say, but I personally think that they should.

 

[DrCosmic]

I hope not. Retreading the same origin with the same theme is the main weakness of Amazing Spider-Man, and despite being a very weak film, Green Lantern handled this part pretty much perfect. Seeing it done again with better acting in a better story just a few years from now will be a poor retread, imho.

 

[spidergeek232]

Idris Elba is used too much as John. How about Rob Riley or Omari Hardwick?

 

[MadVillainy]

I hope not. Retreading the same origin with the same theme is the main weakness of Amazing Spider-Man, and despite being a very weak film, Green Lantern handled this part pretty much perfect. Seeing it done again with better acting in a better story just a few years from now will be a poor retread, imho.

I agree about the Spider-Man bit but I think the potential GL reboot and Spider-Man situation is different.

With Spider-Man, the origin was told in a very commercially and critically successful movie. GL, while as you said got the basic origin of Hal gets the ring from Abin Sur perfect, GL didnt make that much money and it didnt resonate with people that much. So doing the origin again could show people the origin who missed it the first time.

Also Spider-Man's origin is so well known even outside of the nerd community and it's shown/alluded to, at least briefly, in almost every tv show, video game, etc. that Spider-Man stars in, GL's origin isnt that well known because he's not that popular like Spider-Man (Batman or Superman) and his movie didnt do well (like Iron Man's).

And if youre doing a retread and you get better acting and a better story I dont think it would matter that much if youre '\"retreading" Not to really get into it because this discussion is for a different thread, TASM wouldve been a lot better received, even if it was a retread if the acting, story, etc. was stronger than the Raimi version.

Also idk if there's any correlation but every time theyve done a film reboot (Punisher WZ, TIH, Dredd) and they didnt do the reboot the movie underperformed. Again I dont know if it's a conincidence or what but I thought it was interesting.

But yeah I think they should do it again because the first time they did it they didnt get the movie right. Spider-Man in many people's eyes got it right the first time so doing it again so soon didnt help, but as I said that's a different situation than GL's. But I guess it also depends on when a GL reboot is released

 

[dude stannis]

What about Michael Jai White for Jon?

 

[cin0]

He's been my pick for John for a long time.

 

[DrCosmic]

Blackman, that's a good point with the larger context of Spider-Man. But Green Lantern could run into the same problem as the origin is viewed as a bad one. With Stewart it's clear this is something different. How do you set your film apart from the Reynolds version if it's the same story?

I don't know about the correlation either since those are follow ups to disdained properties. But I agree, if it's a clean reboot, telling an origin story is necessary. I would prefer a GI Joe: Retaliation-style sequel refresh, but that might just be me.

If they're building towards a JLA, where Superman is the first alien of any sort, then a reboot might be necessary regardless though.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I think introducing John in a JL movie would be best. Have him say that Hal is leading a campaign against SJLKDJ monster in Sector Xanadu and that he has been recruited for a our sector.

Make GL1.2 a reboot set just after with John picking up with the Sinestro plotline then bringing a new Hal in for GL2.2 and going with the War of Lights.



At this point, while I luv some Idris Elba, I think Marvel has got him on lock with Thor in the near. If they don't use Michael B. Jordan for FF then I say bring him in. He'll be almost 30 by the time of release and he is more of a leading man.

 

[DrCosmic]

Assuming Hal exists invites the idea of pulling the 2011 film into continuity, which conflicts with the Man of Steel. Plus, introducing a character as a lesser/secondary version of another character doesn't bode well for making them awesome. Can you imagine if Avengers had had Hawkeye II "Yeah, Clint is busy elsewhere" with the implication "So I'll have to do." If you intro John in the JLA, you kinda have to do it like the DCUA where Hal doesn't/didn't exist, at least, not as "The Green Lantern" per se.

Michael B. Jordan sounds kinda awesome though! That'd kill too. I wouldn't mind that at all.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

So, here's my cast for Green Lantern Corps



Idris Elba as John Stewart/ Green Lantern

Freida Pinto as Katma Tui

Keith David as the voice of Kilowog

Geoffrey Rush returns as the voice of Tomar-Re

Johnny Galecki as the voice of Sala'ak

Mark Strong as Thaal Sinestro

Dominic Purcell as Arkillo

Laurie Holden as Lyssa Drak

 

[DChero]

I don't like to go into nerd-rage and speak in absolutes, but I'm strongly against having John Stewart introduced into the MoS universe before Hal Jordan. I get that there a lot of great stories to be told with Stewart, but what solo stories are there to tell? Do you pit him against Sinestro? Absolutely not. Sinestro is a Jordan villain and that's what we should see first in my opinion.

To me, we should get a Hal vs Sinestro lead-in, then introduce John at the end before a Justice League movie. A movie about John Stewart without that doesn't appeal to me.

 

[metaphysician]

How to handle John Stewart? Easy: steal whatever you want from Hal Jordan, and give it to John Stewart. There is nothing about, say, Sinestro, that *requires* he be a Hal Jordan villain.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't like to go into nerd-rage and speak in absolutes, but I'm strongly against having John Stewart introduced into the MoS universe before Hal Jordan. I get that there a lot of great stories to be told with Stewart, but what solo stories are there to tell? Do you pit him against Sinestro? Absolutely not. Sinestro is a Jordan villain and that's what we should see first in my opinion.
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We already had this conversation when Stewart was the GL in the aborted JL and Jordan fanboys said, "No Way!"

Jordan got his chance and he stunk up the screen to high heaven.

It's over. All bets are off. I just don't want to try and recast Sinestro since he was awesome. But everything else from the visuals needs to go. Letting Hal hold the first Lantern story is nice but otherwise, he can stay off screen for all i care.

Based on MOS, if we wait 6 or so years. You can dump anything relating to the previous GL.