Green Lantern 2

[NosfeRomas]

I say give Raynolds one more chance, the guy is a good actor (go watch Buried) and if the script is good he is gonna be good too. He used his "comedic face" because of the script. I saw Hal Jordan in Green Lantern's climax, not full Jordan but he was there. But if they recast him i would love to see Nathan Fillion as Hal.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

What's really crazy is that MOS is what I thought a GL movie would look like and vice versa.

Throwing stuff in the sun is more a Superman thing to me. Plus the small scope of GL was more in line with Superman.


The alien look( not CGI) of Krypton and the council. The destruction of Coast City like Metropolis. The more depressed, brooding aspect of Hal's personality and struggle with his father's death.

 

[Doc Ock]

I say give Raynolds one more chance, the guy is a good actor (go watch Buried) and if the script is good he is gonna be good too. He used his "comedic face" because of the script. I saw Hal Jordan in Green Lantern's climax, not full Jordan but he was there. But if they recast him i would love to see Nathan Fillion as Hal.

I will forever want Nathan Fillion as Hal, he already does a good job voicing him.

 

[NosfeRomas]

They will probably Incredible Hulk Green Lantern. The first film will exist to show people who Green Lantern is and the new movie (if there is one)(there must be one, especially after the awesome sci fi look of Man of Steel) will be a separate story ark.

The only actor who has to come back is Mark Strong.

What would be a suitable story for the new GL ? I was thinking vs Red Lanters or a soft Sinestro Corps War.

 

[sahin]

I think the first Movie wasn't that bad as many say. It wasn't just what we've expected...because we expected MORE!
The Films Script was too flat, a weak LoveStory and barely Action.

But i'd still like to see a Sequel. No recasting! But a better Director and Writer! I'm looking forward especially for Mark Strong as evil Sinestro! He was one of the good Things of the first Movie!

 

[DocHolliday]

I will forever want Nathan Fillion as Hal, he already does a good job voicing him.

Enough with the lame cult actors. There's a reason why Firefly was canceled. Fillion as Hal wouldn't be any better than Reynolds.

I think they should start over with Kyle Rayner...always liked him better than Hal anyways.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Enough with the lame cult actors. There's a reason why Firefly was canceled. Fillion as Hal wouldn't be any better than Reynolds.

I think they should start over with Kyle Rayner...always liked him better than Hal anyways.

Firefly was cancelled because FOX mismanaged it. They showed the episodes out of sequence, making the storyline difficult to follow and cause casual viewers to lose interest.

Fillion would be immensely better than Reynolds. Reynolds turned Hal Jordan into Van Wilder in a mask. Fillion would at least take the role more seriously. His only issue would be his age, as 42 is a little old to start a franchise character. Possible, but difficult. And don't put Downey in there, because most of his action sequences were just him inside a helmet.

If you're starting over with the origin story, you can't skip Hal, IMO. He was given the final ring because Hal Jordan went crazy and killed the Guardians and many Lanterns. You can't jump to the end like that. Again, just my opinion.

 

[DocHolliday]

Firefly was cancelled because FOX mismanaged it. They showed the episodes out of sequence, making the storyline difficult to follow and cause casual viewers to lose interest.

Typical fanboy excuses. Firefly didn't do anything that wasn't done before on network tv. The acclaim for the show is more because of the low standards that exist for science fiction on television. Whedon seems to use this excuse often when his projects flop(Alien 4, Firefly, Dollhouse)..."My work was mishandled"

Fillion would be immensely better than Reynolds. Reynolds turned Hal Jordan into Van Wilder in a mask. Fillion would at least take the role more seriously. His only issue would be his age, as 42 is a little old to start a franchise character. Possible, but difficult. And don't put Downey in there, because most of his action sequences were just him inside a helmet.

His only issue is his age? How about the fact that no one knows who the hell Nathan Fillion is outside of fat Whedonites and nerd girls. The average movie goer doesn't care about Nathon Fillion. At least Reynolds has some sort of name recognition. I hated him as Lantern but I understood why they chose him. Neither are very good actors so I don't see why we're comparing their acting chops. They're both very one-dimensional.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

I think the first Movie wasn't that bad as many say. It wasn't just what we've expected...because we expected MORE!
The Films Script was too flat, a weak LoveStory and barely Action.

But i'd still like to see a Sequel. No recasting! But a better Director and Writer! I'm looking forward especially for Mark Strong as evil Sinestro! He was one of the good Things of the first Movie!

Martin Campbell isn't a bad director. I think the film suffered from a few fatal flaws:

Poor script. They started with Paralax instead of Sinestro, meaning they couldn't top of potential (a potential they never reached) action from the first movie to the second. Not to mention all of the useless information (Dr. Wheeler's family, for example), the addition of Hector Hammond which was completely useless and ruined the pacing of the film and way too many failed jokes. And I won't even get into plot holes and stuff that just didn't make sense (Paralax just destroyed multiple planets and of the 3600+ Green Lanterns, they sent 12???)

Poor SFX. They were comical at best. There were a few good moments, but it felt like I was watching a cartoon. And did they really have to CG his costume, let alone his MASK??? I expected a lot of CG, given that a lot of the movie takes place in space. But I expected better CG.

Poor acting. Face it, no one gave a great performance in this film. No one. I think the best acting probably came from the CG Paralax and the extras running in the street.

Ryan Reynolds. He should never have gotten this part. He's not Hal Jordan. I didn't spend a single moment of the film sucked in, thinking that this was actually Hal Jordan. I always said it was Ryan Reynolds AS Hal Jordan. When you see Iron Man, you actually think you're seeing Tony Stark. Same with The Dark Knight and the Joker, or Taken and Brian Mills. I never once saw Heath Ledger or Liam Neeson. I saw characters. In the end, Ryan Reynolds tried to Ryan Reynolds things a little too much. That being said, his personality would fit perfectly for Deadpool, but a better version than the X-Men Origins piece of crap we got.

 

[DocHolliday]

If you're starting over with the origin story, you can't skip Hal, IMO. He was given the final ring because Hal Jordan went crazy and killed the Guardians and many Lanterns. You can't jump to the end like that. Again, just my opinion.

Sure, but I just find the Hal character and origin story very dull. Kyle's more...down to earth. The whole test pilot storyline was painful to watch on the big screen. Very goofy and over the top. Marvel seems to pull of this kind of cheese pretty well but WB and DC both screwed up here. Cambell wasn't right for this kind of film(when has he ever worked with CG?) and DC Creative came up with a mundane script. Every choice was wrong for the characters(except Mark Strong as Sinestro...he was fine).

WB is incompetent when it comes to DC's properties. Geoff Johns is equally incompetent when it comes to adapting these properties for the big screen. Gonna need a major shakeup to right the DC ship.

 

[Lord]

Sure, but I just find the Hal character and origin story very dull. Kyle's more...down to earth. The whole test pilot storyline was painful to watch on the big screen. Very goofy and over the top. Marvel seems to pull of this kind of cheese pretty well but WB and DC both screwed up here. Cambell wasn't right for this kind of film and DC Creative came up with a mundane script. Every choice was wrong for the characters(except Mark Strong as Sinestro...he was fine).

Hal's storyline in Secret Origin was actually very well handled, would like to watch that on screen, and if they go with a diferente lantern than hal Jordan then i can assure you that they will go with John Stwart

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/29/hero-worship-who-should-be-the-new-live-action-green-lantern

 

[Doc Ock]

Enough with the lame cult actors. There's a reason why Firefly was canceled. Fillion as Hal wouldn't be any better than Reynolds.

He is already better than Reynolds on the voice acting he has done for Hal alone.

Firefly was cancelled, but that doesn't mean it was a bad show. Its usually the best ones that get cancelled.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Typical fanboy excuses. Firefly didn't do anything that wasn't done before on network tv. The acclaim for the show is more because of the low standards that exist for science fiction on television. Whedon seems to use this excuse often when his projects flop(Alien 4, Firefly, Dollhouse)..."My work was mishandled"



His only issue is his age? How about the fact that no one knows who the hell Nathan Fillion is outside of fat Whedonites and nerd girls. The average movie goer doesn't care about Nathon Fillion. At least Reynolds has some sort of name recognition. I hated him as Lantern but I understood why they chose him. Neither are very good actors so I don't see why we're comparing their acting chops. They're both very one-dimensional.

First off, I'm not a fanboy. I like the show, but I haven't even watched the series all the way through more than once. I just know facts are facts, and the fact is FOX didn't play the Pilot first, and shuffled everything else. The show wasn't amazing by any stretch, but it was poorly managed by FOX and deserved more than one season. If it was really that bad, they wouldn't have made a film, a comic series and had such large DVD sales.

Watch Castle. One of the higher rated shows on TV, and he's the star.
The average movie goer doesn't care about Andrew Garfield, Jeremy Renner, Henry Cavill, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, the list goes on.
You're right, Ryan Reynolds did have a name. He was in Waiting, Van Wilder, one of the worst comic book movies of all time in Blade Trinity, X-Men Origins Wolverine, The Proposal... I'm sorry, but none of those scream "Hal Jordan" to me. They wanted a sexy young guy to make money, not a good movie.
Fillion may not be the best actor out there, but like I said before, he would've at least taken the role seriously. Reynolds was, as I expected, a clown.

I'm not saying Fillion was my top choice by any means. But he was way ahead of Reynolds.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Sure, but I just find the Hal character and origin story very dull. Kyle's more...down to earth. The whole test pilot storyline was painful to watch on the big screen. Very goofy and over the top. Marvel seems to pull of this kind of cheese pretty well but WB and DC both screwed up here. Cambell wasn't right for this kind of film(when has he ever worked with CG?) and DC Creative came up with a mundane script. Every choice was wrong for the characters(except Mark Strong as Sinestro...he was fine).

Kyle does has a "sexier" story, I can agree 100%. That's why I'd rather just see Hal in a JL movie instead of a solo film. Let's face it, he can be pretty boring.

I agree that Campbell wasn't the right choice. Good director, but yeah, not a GL guy. He wasn't a positive, but he wasn't nearly the biggest issue.

Mark Strong was perfect for Sinestro. He was the only saving grace to this movie.

I love the Green Lantern story and I don't even own this movie.

 

[DocHolliday]

First off, I'm not a fanboy. I like the show, but I haven't even watched the series all the way through more than once. I just know facts are facts, and the fact is FOX didn't play the Pilot first, and shuffled everything else. The show wasn't amazing by any stretch, but it was poorly managed by FOX and deserved more than one season.

t's not uncommon for networks to mishandle cult shows.

If it was really that bad, they wouldn't have made a film, a comic series and had such large DVD sales.

Are you forgetting that the film flopped too? No one watched that either.

Watch Castle. One of the higher rated shows on TV, and he's the star.

Yes, being a star of a tv show definitely makes Nathan Fillion box office material.

There's a reason why Reynolds only does films and Fillion only does tv.

The average movie goer doesn't care about Andrew Garfield, Jeremy Renner, Henry Cavill, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, the list goes on.

Andrew Garfield starred in a Terry Gilliam film and in an insanely popular Fincher movie(Social Network) before doing Spiderman. More than enough people knew who he was. In addiition, Spiderman's one of the most bankable comic characters.

Renner was in a critically acclaimed Oscar winner a few years back(Hurt Locker) and has followed it up with playing supporting roles in popular hits like Mission Impossible 4.

Chris Pine/Quinto weren't the draw for the new Trek. The Star Trek brand was already firmly established by that point....Five tv series and ten films already.

Cavill wasn't the draw for Superman either. The character's one of the most popular in all of fiction...in addition to Nolan being mentioned as producer, Russel Crowe, Costner, etc.

The only notable film Fillion ever starred in was Serenity and that bombed hard at the box office.

You're right, Ryan Reynolds did have a name. He was in Waiting, Van Wilder, one of the worst comic book movies of all time in Blade Trinity, X-Men Origins Wolverine, The Proposal... I'm sorry, but none of those scream "Hal Jordan" to me. They wanted a sexy young guy to make money, not a good movie.
Fillion may not be the best actor out there, but like I said before, he would've at least taken the role seriously. Reynolds was, as I expected, a clown.

At least Reynold's movies make it to theatres. Fillion's starring roles include straight to dvd crap like White Noise 2, Trucker. and Outing Riley.

I'm not saying Fillion was my top choice by any means. But he was way ahead of Reynolds.

Green Lantern is not a character that's synonymous with the average movie-goer so they went with a "star". They could have done MUCH better than Reynolds, I agree. Not a big enough name or a good enough actor.

 

[DocHolliday]

Kyle does has a "sexier" story, I can agree 100%. That's why I'd rather just see Hal in a JL movie instead of a solo film. Let's face it, he can be pretty boring.

I agree that Campbell wasn't the right choice. Good director, but yeah, not a GL guy. He wasn't a positive, but he wasn't nearly the biggest issue.

Mark Strong was perfect for Sinestro. He was the only saving grace to this movie.

I love the Green Lantern story and I don't even own this movie.

I've always liked Campbell. Great action director but who the hell at WB though he could direct CG and SFX? Cambell could be a perfect director for something like a Punisher movie but Green Lantern was well outside his capabilities. It would be like having Nolan direct Avengers or Whedon directing Dark Knight. Horrible fit for both.

 

[C. Lee]

Typical fanboy excuses.

How about the fact that no one knows who the hell Nathan Fillion is outside of fat Whedonites and nerd girls.

How about you stop insulting people and post civilly?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Typical fanboy excuses. Firefly didn't do anything that wasn't done before on network tv. The acclaim for the show is more because of the low standards that exist for science fiction on television. Whedon seems to use this excuse often when his projects flop(Alien 4, Firefly, Dollhouse)..."My work was mishandled"



His only issue is his age? How about the fact that no one knows who the hell Nathan Fillion is outside of fat Whedonites and nerd girls. The average movie goer doesn't care about Nathon Fillion. At least Reynolds has some sort of name recognition. I hated him as Lantern but I understood why they chose him. Neither are very good actors so I don't see why we're comparing their acting chops. They're both very one-dimensional.

Why are you so against Fillion? He did a better job than Reynolds in a ****ing animated movie, that's saying something.

I didn't even watch Firefly and I still love the idea of Fillion as Hal, he's fancast as Hal because he did a Hal like character so well. So well. I think Fillion is a great choice for Hal, he would own it

 

[EliteF50]

As much as I like Fillion, he's too old and out of shape. Reynolds is a good actor, he just had weak material to work with. Either way, I think the best thing to do is replace Hal with Jon Stewart. That way we won't have to hear any more "WHY DID THEY MAKE GREEN LANTERN WHITE?" complaints and everyone will forget about the Campbell disaster (hopefully).

 

[Rorschach2012]

I have an idea that fans might not like.

People say that Hal and Kyle are the most interesting Lanterns, and the main argument against John is that he's boring.

What about swapping some aspects of Kyle's story for John Stewart? Hal has already been done, so you can't really do that with Hal, but Kyle's not been done in live action. It would spice up John's character, and you could have an interesting GL on the JL, WHILE being racially diverse. Just a thought.

It wouldn't have to be JINO (john in name only) they could keep the best aspects of John, and add best aspects of kyle

That way, John could spin off into his own franchise after JL and it wouldn't have to be a boring film

 

[The Guard]

Oh, there's still all kinds of hyperbole about this movie and its quality and elements.

Carry on.

Throwing stuff in the sun is more a Superman thing to me.

He didn't throw it. He punched it.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I have an idea that fans might not like.

People say that Hal and Kyle are the most interesting Lanterns, and the main argument against John is that he's boring.

What about swapping some aspects of Kyle's story for John Stewart? Hal has already been done, so you can't really do that with Hal, but Kyle's not been done in live action. It would spice up John's character, and you could have an interesting GL on the JL, WHILE being racially diverse. Just a thought.

It wouldn't have to be JINO (john in name only) they could keep the best aspects of John, and add best aspects of kyle

That way, John could spin off into his own franchise after JL and it wouldn't have to be a boring film

Why do that at all? John and Kyle have pretty much juxtaposed characteristics, John is the stern battle hardened veteran of war and Kyle is the soft creative young man.


John doesn't really have many defining traits other than his militaristic side, he was contemplative for a spell, but he was introduced to be a sort of black power archetype, which isn't necesarry in this film. So you'd essentially end up with Kyle Rayner in blackface. A token change to physically distance the previous star from the current.

 

[Lord]

As it is i'm begining to think they shouldn't do another GL film and use John Stewart in the movie instead, he works better when he is with a team and this way you not only end with the criticismo of "Why isn't Green Lantern Black?" and it would give more variety to Justice League without shoe horning Cyborg.

It's a shame the Green Lantern animated series was cancelled, it would have helped the next generation buy Hal Jordan as Green Lantern

 

[DrCosmic]

John doesn't really have many defining traits other than his militaristic side, he was contemplative for a spell, but he was introduced to be a sort of black power archetype, which isn't necesarry in this film. So you'd essentially end up with Kyle Rayner in blackface. A token change to physically distance the previous star from the current.

A militaristic contemplative guy doesn't sound like Kyle in blackface at all. Or particularly token for that matter. All you'd have to do is turn up his architecture and make him the last green lantern, and you have all the best parts of Kyle... and still less like Kyle than the last movie Green Lantern.

 

[Project862006]

chris pine should of been hal his kirk is exactly how hal should be

pine can be comedic as shown in star trek but he doesn't over do it like ryan