Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread

[Sith Scotti]

Woman superhero movies have BOMBED terribly in the past. It doesn't matter what name recognition they have.


You'd never get women to fill the seats at a theater unless Wonder Woman had a romantic subplot.

Really Catwoman and Elektra bomed because they were awful , and don't get me started on Catwoman again . WTF was wb thinking there .

 

[The Morningstar]

Oh let me see a rich playboy working in Defense with unlimited funds for technolgy in creating his suit . Where have I seen that before .... Tony Stark was clearly influence by Batman . Just like Spiderman 2 was Superman 2 ...

You're showing your true colours feller.

 

[Octoberist]

You can make anything less canonic you have the right writers and filmmakers behind it.

 

[Supermanreturns]

Really Catwoman and Elektra bomed because they were awful , and don't get me started on Catwoman again . WTF was wb thinking there .

Yep. I seriously think that an Elektra's movie, faithful to "Elektra: Assassin", with a good marketing, can be a great hit to BO (not huge but good), imho.

 

[DieSmiling]

Wonder Woman is famous but not in a good way. She is complete camp. You can make Thor, Superman, Batman, and Green Lantern cool. I think there is no hope for a woman hero with a lasso and invisible jet. It would be either utter camp or a complete bore like Electra.

I disagree. It wouldn't have to be camp at all. You ditch certain campy elements (I don't think the invisible jet or the Diana Prince alter ego should ever make it to screen) and you do something similar to Thor.

I can't say the movie would be successful, because I agree that audiences don't seem that interested in female driven action films (although I'd also agree that the sample size is small and littered with awful films like Catwoman, Elektra, Aeon Flux, and Ultraviolet)... But you never know.

 

[Marvin]

Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman treatment was half 300 and half Superman: The Movie (with Diana and Steve's roles reversed) in tone. WB execs flat out laughed at it. Goes to show they want Sex and the City but with tights

yes!
I've always hated WB execs. Even when everyone was loving them during post TDK legal battle with FOX for Watchmen.

it's like everyone forgot just about all their other flops.

As much as people are "hating" on GL now, it would be 10x worse if this film was doing insanely good numbers.

 

[Chewy]

Get out of here you hater! You're totally celebrating!!!

*hides cake*

 

[Sith Scotti]

Yep. I seriously think that an Elektra's movie, faithful to "Elektra: Assassin", with a good marketing, can be a great hit to BO (not huge but good), imho.

I think both could have been decent if they actually were true to the comics . Catwoman really was one of the most heads cratching films . You ignore her history with Batman and create a new charcter ? WTF and never mind how awful the script . DC fan or not . There is no defense of that turd

 

[The Sage]

Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman treatment was half 300 and half Superman: The Movie (with Diana and Steve's roles reversed) in tone. WB execs flat out laughed at it. Goes to show they want Sex and the City but with tights

You have an article about this? I've never read the details of what Whedon had planned for Wonder Woman.

 

[chaseter]

I meant X First class . If Gl is a bomb so is First Class which had better reviews and more name recognition .

Not when one cost about 100 million more to make.

 

[The Morningstar]

Wow, that sounds awesome. 300 crossed with Superman? And WB turned it down? WTF?

 

[ElMariachi]

Oh let me see a rich playboy working in Defense with unlimited funds for technolgy in creating his suit . Where have I seen that before .... Tony Stark was clearly influence by Batman . Just like Spiderman 2 was Superman 2 ...

Bruce Wayne doesn't work in defense. Wayne Enterprises isn't a defense contractor in the same way Stark or Hammer were. Wayne is more like General Electric, not Northrop Grumman. And even if it was, Bruce Wayne wouldn't have a hand in any of it. Contrast that with Tony Stark, who actually has a hand his company. I also don't think you can really compare the batsuit to the Mark III. Lucius Fox pretty much gave Bruce existing pieces, Tony built his from scratch.

Tony Stark also really wasn't influenced by Batman at all, despite some similiarities. I would say he was more influenced by a real world character--Howard Hughes. Both were innovators and eccentrics. They even look somewhat similar.

 

[DieSmiling]

Besides being billionaires with parent issues who use their wealth to fight crime there are like zero similiaries between Batman and Iron Man, and almost fewer between Batman Begins and Iron Man. In tone, character, supporting cast, etc.

Let's just let that argument die, Scotti.

 

[ElMariachi]

Actually Kill Bill and Alien are just examples of people making films inspite of the studio ideal of what it should be.

For example if you dressed WW up in a Kill Bill like life or death film with mythology and blood and swords and tone, have diana on a mission for Hades' head but have him played by a cool but classic actor and called it Wonder Woman. you'd have a hit, I'd bet my brother life on it. It'd probably end up a cultural zeitgeist if you're lucky.

What we will no doubt get instead is a Cheesey outfit, a corny girl gets guy plot, electric blue spandex and stupid poses coming out of a twirling transformation slightly updated for the times, that some out of touch studio heads will think is a brilliant update to the classic show that everyone remembers.

It will fail, hard! And they'll say Superhero movies don't work.
it's like watching a train wreck.

The difference between TDK and most of these other productions, including GL.

It would be difficult to pull off and I think they would never let a Wonder Woman go that route. Perhaps if they gave it a similar tone as Xena---which always was a fun show. That was able to succeed despite how camp it was. Later evening t.v. on lesser networks is a little different than the box office though.

The studios would butcher it as you said and try to make it too similar to the t.v. show. Pretty much what they did with Superman making him too similar to Reeve.

 

[dark_b]

Wow, that sounds awesome. 300 crossed with Superman? And WB turned it down? WTF?

i think was in 2005. before 300.

 

[chaseter]

According to David Poland:
So $350 million maybe even $400 million?

WTF is wrong with WB? they make steaming pile of a movie and spend this much extra cash on it?

Daaaaaaaamn.

 

[Marvin]

Lucius Fox pretty much gave Bruce existing pieces, Tony built his from scratch.

don't remind me

 

[Marvin]

It would be difficult to pull off and I think they would never let a Wonder Woman go that route. Perhaps if they gave it a similar tone as Xena---which always was a fun show. That was able to succeed despite how camp it was. Later evening t.v. on lesser networks is a little different than the box office though.

The studios would butcher it as you said and try to make it too similar to the t.v. show. Pretty much what they did with Superman making him too similar to Reeve.

from what I heard whedon was doing something similar to this, right down to the Xena skirt but with a teen shirt on top.

WB executives

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea, i can't understand how Nolans movies completely ignore the fact that Bruce Wayne is a bonafide genius and Sherlock Holmes esque detective. That's like, Batmans thing. That's his superpower.

 

[ElMariachi]

I disagree. It wouldn't have to be camp at all. You ditch certain campy elements (I don't think the invisible jet or the Diana Prince alter ego should ever make it to screen) and you do something similar to Thor.

I can't say the movie would be successful, because I agree that audiences don't seem that interested in female driven action films (although I'd also agree that the sample size is small and littered with awful films like Catwoman, Elektra, Aeon Flux, and Ultraviolet)... But you never know.

The thing about Thor is that a charming man always beats a tough chick. Women AND men loved Thor. Women because he was a charming, loveable hunk and men because he laid the smack down. Add in the believeable romance and the humor--and made for a pretty appealing movie.

I think pulling that off with WW would be difficult. Women in movies--how do I say this---aren't often funny or charming. Tough women in movies are a fine line between camp and obnoxiousness. Kill Bill pulled it off. Death Proof didn't. A good examle is Linda Hamilton in T2 who was borderline obnoxious. There are only a few women that can pull action and toughness off. Maybe if we can bring back Pam Grier from 35 years ago and have her play a black Wonder Woman. I could be down with that.

 

[chaseter]

Besides being billionaires with parent issues who use their wealth to fight crime there are like zero similiaries between Batman and Iron Man, and almost fewer between Batman Begins and Iron Man. In tone, character, supporting cast, etc.

Let's just let that argument die, Scotti.

But get in the last word right?

Why did you devolve box office talk to a Marvel vs DC debate?

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

You know what the issue is? WB were spending so much money trying to convince you that you want to see this film that I think people smelt a turkey, in retrospect the way this film was marketed really smacks of desperation - 'please see our movie....please, look how shiny it is!'. You look at Thor or X-men and the advertising is nowhere near as in your face as the GL stuff was. The Onion video the other day is smack bang on the money with regards to this film.

Bingo.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yup, i smelt the desperation a while ago. When i saw an officially licensed GL colostomy bag.

Man, if they put half as much effort into the film as they did the marketing campaign we'd have a masterpiece here.

 

[DieSmiling]

But get in the last word right?

Why did you devolve box office talk to a Marvel vs DC debate?

I didn't devolve anything.

I pointed out that a number of posters here are trolling hard, and offered a potential explanation for some of their motivations.

I'm not an anti-Marvel guy. I loved Thor, like XMFC, and am looking forward to Captain America. I want all these movies to be hits.

I'm just a bit turned off by the way some around here are acting.

 

[ElMariachi]

don't remind me

It didn't really bother me at all. It made alot of sense for the movie. I don't think it would be believable at that point for Bruce to build all this high tech stuff without help. It made sense in IM because they built up Tony Stark's brilliance as an engineer. Lucius Fox may have been getting a bit close to becomming Q in TDK though by pretty much saving the day with his inventions.