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Guess who the new writer of runaways is.

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Brian K. Vaughan said:
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: Thoughts on Whedon & Ryan taking over RUNAWAYS

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Whenever I get to hang out with Joss (he says casually), I always end up awkwardly rambling about how I feel like I'm living one of the delusional fantasies of Rupert Pupkin from King of Comedy, and that I actually have the real Joss tied up in my hotel room. Then Joss laughs nervously, and tells me that I've been using my chopsticks backwards all night.

It's horrible.

But to say that the dude was a massive influence on my life wouldn't even begin to cover it. Buffy, Angel and especially Firefly all made me want to be a better writer and a better human being. Joss's shows taught an entire generation of young typists that genre isn't something to be transcended, but to be embraced, that it's more important for dialogue to be true than "realistic," and that it's always better to tell a story that a few of us will cherish than one that everyone will kinda like.

Three or four San Diego cons ago, I sheepishly floated a copy of the first Y: The Last Man collection to Joss with a note telling him how much I dug his work, and he was unbelievably cool enough to write back and say that he was already aware of my stuff from Runaways, which he was compelled to pick up because of Jo Chen's amazing first cover (nice one, Jo!).

At a time when I was pretty sure NO ONE was reading Runaways, Joss would always dash off insanely nice emails to tell me how much he liked a stupid line of Chase's dialogue or whatever. Those little messages were enough to keep my furnaces pumping (eww), and Joss' support behind the scenes doubtlessly played a big part in Marvel's decision to keep the book alive.

From day one, he's been the Runaways' shadowy benefactor, keeping the kids safe from all the evil adults who wanted them dead.

Depressingly, now that he's taking over, I find out that Joss's ideas for the book are all infinitely better than mine. Seriously, he wrote this one sentence in his overview that was so good, I had to wake my wife and tell her that I was going to kill myself. And when I told Ruth the idea, she AGREED THAT I SHOULD.

As for how long Joss is going to stay, I told him the Sacred Order of Runaways Writers has only one rule, that an author is not allowed to leave until he or she has found a bigger, better replacement. So until JK Rowling starts returning his calls, I think we'll be able to get a few issues out of the old boy. (And yes, the book will still be monthly, whiners! Numfar is a demon of speed.)

Oh, and lest we forget Mr. Ryan. Michael and I actually worked together a few years ago on the "Tinker, Tailor, Mutant, Spy" arc of my run on Mystique. The second I saw how sweet his first page looked, I knew that Marvel would take him away from me and only let him work on huge assignments. Sure enough, that's exactly what they did. And now, after Michael's skills have only improved, Marvel finally puts him on one of my books... right after I leave.

No one will ever be able to duplicate what Adrian Alphona accomplished with Runaways, and wisely, Michael doesn't try. He's really making these characters his own, while staying absolutely true to the kids that Adrian gave birth to. Michael sent over one Nico sketch that almost made me cry. Seriously, I can't wait for Bendis to steal him from Joss.

And though Joe Q. was gracious enough to credit me with brokering this deal, most of the credit belongs to editors Mike Marts and Nick Lowe, who were the guys crazy enough to approach Joss with this (I told them they were probably wasting their time even asking him, which is Reason #8756 why I would not make a very good editor).

So yeah, it's not too shabby having the guy I admire so much that I wrote him into an old issue of Runaways as a stupid pop-culture reference... actually WRITING that book. It also makes me think that I'm a lunatic, and that this is all happening in my mind.

Still, Joss is gonna have to gnaw through a lot of rope before he escapes this hotel room.

Flattered and confused,
BKV
 
Very good. Especially "Numfar is a demon of speed." Numfar owns all you *****es. :o
 
I think this is about the only move Marvel could have made to keep me on this title, damn them :cmad: :up:
 
So BKV himself worships Whedon. This could be good or bad news.

It's worth repeating that he is Vaughan's pick, although it's worth saying that it would be professional suicide to ever badmouth an incoming creative team as you're leaving. I'm not denying that Vaughan doesn't like Whedon, or that Whedon's unseen ideas aren't incredible, and all that. Just noting that you would never, under any circumstances, hear a writer leave a book and go, "They picked someone else, and they suck". It would never happen. One, because it would be unfair for the newcomers, and Two, because it's professional curtesy.

I hope Whedon succeeds on RUNAWAYS when he takes over in '07, don't get me wrong.

He's going to have a tough time going through the fan woodchipper if he kills off a team member too quickly, though.
 
I doubt he would. I mean, really, what indication is there that he's going to kill anyone?
 
Dread said:
So BKV himself worships Whedon. This could be good or bad news.
It's worth repeating that he is Vaughan's pick, although it's worth saying that it would be professional suicide to ever badmouth an incoming creative team as you're leaving. I'm not denying that Vaughan doesn't like Whedon, or that Whedon's unseen ideas aren't incredible, and all that. Just noting that you would never, under any circumstances, hear a writer leave a book and go, "They picked someone else, and they suck". It would never happen. One, because it would be unfair for the newcomers, and Two, because it's professional curtesy.

I hope Whedon succeeds on RUNAWAYS when he takes over in '07, don't get me wrong.

He's going to have a tough time going through the fan woodchipper if he kills off a team member too quickly, though.

Ah, so the Church of Whedon went an got themselves a celebrity eh? Tom Cruise and Scientology ain't gonna take this sittin down!
 
Colossal Spoons said:
Ah, so the Church of Whedon went an got themselves a celebrity eh? Tom Cruise and Scientology ain't gonna take this sittin down!


Well "celebrity"
 
The Watchman said:
Given his track record he'll probably bring someone back...

Gert will come back with Alex after beating the Grim Reaper in a series of board games. They and Death will then team up with an alien, probably Karolina, and form a band who's music will be so revolutionary and thought provoking that it will bring about a new era of peace and understanding throughout the universe. Yes, just like in Bill and Ted.
 
The Question said:
I doubt he would. I mean, really, what indication is there that he's going to kill anyone?
SHOCK TACTIC 101 of any new incoming creative team is, "kill someone off". Bendis, for example, has done this to a science on almost any book he's hopped onto that he didn't launch himself, from ULTIMATE X-MEN to AVENGERS. Lord knows the new team on NEW X-MEN plowed through a buncha characters like there was no tomorrow.

It's merely a generic assumption at this point. Not a guarentee. Most writers will inevitably kill off someone if they're on a book for at least a year or longer these days. I had a discussion with another fan of RUNAWAYS on the last topic about this who indicated, fairly, that a theme with the book is that team members actually DO die because the life is harsh. Just if Vaughan knocks off his own creation, he has more "legitmacy". Whedon, as the new writer, even if he writes the best death scene ever, may have a hard time against fan backlash if he doesn't have "legitimacy" yet. I mean, hell, Bendis was probably higher on the food chain when he hit AVENGERS and it's not like he never got flack for going on a killing spree (deservedly so). Just something to think about amidst the cries of "OMIGOD, WHEDON IS ON I LUV HIM@!" sort of statements.
 
Darthphere said:
I dont understand this logic. In essence thats like saying FF is both a mark Waid and JMS book.
That's a little different since FF is like 300 years old
 
Dread said:
SHOCK TACTIC 101 of any new incoming creative team is, "kill someone off". Bendis, for example, has done this to a science on almost any book he's hopped onto that he didn't launch himself, from ULTIMATE X-MEN to AVENGERS. Lord knows the new team on NEW X-MEN plowed through a buncha characters like there was no tomorrow.

It's merely a generic assumption at this point. Not a guarentee. Most writers will inevitably kill off someone if they're on a book for at least a year or longer these days. I had a discussion with another fan of RUNAWAYS on the last topic about this who indicated, fairly, that a theme with the book is that team members actually DO die because the life is harsh. Just if Vaughan knocks off his own creation, he has more "legitmacy". Whedon, as the new writer, even if he writes the best death scene ever, may have a hard time against fan backlash if he doesn't have "legitimacy" yet. I mean, hell, Bendis was probably higher on the food chain when he hit AVENGERS and it's not like he never got flack for going on a killing spree (deservedly so). Just something to think about amidst the cries of "OMIGOD, WHEDON IS ON I LUV HIM@!" sort of statements.

Whedon likes more to build a character up before he kills them. See practically every major good guy death on Buffy and Angel ([BLACKOUT]Miss Calender, Kendra, Joyce, Tara, Anya, Cordelia, etc[/BLACKOUT]...). So, even though there's already been a lot of stuff going on already with the characters, I think Whedon would like to sink his claws into them more before he offs one.
 
Dread said:
So BKV himself worships Whedon. This could be good or bad news.
Oh okay Dread, WE GET IT. I'm Dread and I'm neutral. Let the book do the talking! I'm neutral. There are some good signs but I'm not paying attention to them. I made up some bad signs, and I'm ignoring those too. I'm Dread.
 
Specter313 said:
Whedon likes more to build a character up before he kills them. See practically every major good guy death on Buffy and Angel (SPOILER ME) So, even though there's already been a lot of stuff going on already with the characters, I think Whedon would like to sink his claws into them more before he offs one.
SPOILERS, ass. Hurry up with them.
 
The shows have been over for years, I don't think it matters.
 
I haven't watched Angel season 5 yet, I can only hope I lucked out by stopping myself from reading everything once I saw that you started listing Buffyverse deaths.

Plus I lured two Hype buddies into watching Buffy and they aren't as far along as me so just spoilerize it and I will reward you with ******io, and shock tarts. At the same time!
 
Im sorry, but the more i think of all this, it all sounds way to fishy. First Whedon has made it no secret, that hes a huge fan of Runaways. Then BKV suddenly decides hes leaving runaways, and says how content he is with what hes accomplished. Then later it is announced Whedon [a really huge fan of the book, and a vaslty more popular writer then BKV] is announced to be his succesor.........this all just sounds to i dunno...fishy. Not to sound like some conspiracy theory nutjob, but IMO this all was planned out.

Whedon IMO probblay has been secretly [behind closed doors] campaigning to write the book for some time now, and Joe Q knows whedon is a massive seller. All whedon and Joe Q had to do, was "convince" BKV, that hes done a amazing job with the book, but maybe a more popular writer should take over, for the benefit and longlivity of the Runaways comic. BKV then seemingly realized whedon would bring a massive amount of attention to the comic, and maybe he should peacefully just leave while hes on top. Joe Q then "convinced" him to release a nice peacfull farewell statement, and BKV new the drill and he quietly realised he was being forced out. Whedon was then ready to be announced as the succesor, and nobody would be the wiser as BKV was a professional about it all [plus had a contract to follow]. Ofcourse this is all Just all my opnion as a consipiracy nutjob.
 
No kidding. Eros, you must visit Numfar, and learn the dance of shame!:cmad:
 
.....what does that have to do with anything we're talking about? :confused:
 
thus

because the implication of the last episode of angel was that everyone died
 

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