Guy shows off Girlfriend on Bodybuilding.com...comedy ensues

[Ace of Knaves]

Being mentally ill doesn't mean they turn in to Rain Man and can no longer do the most basic of things. Your question doesn't even make sense in the context of mental illness. They are mentally ill precisely because they are able to actively devise ways to kill themselves, going against the very grain of the basic human instinct of survival. And being aware (or not being aware) of the impact of their actions on family members and friends has absolutely nothing to do with their cognitive ability to find ways to kill themselves. They are not mutually exclusive concepts in any way, so your "if...MUST" statement is completely inaccurate.

jag

Errr what? My whole argument with you guys was that i find it selfish. I'll break it down for you. If someone, like you say, is sooooooooo mentally diseased that they don't want to continue living are you seriously telling me that they would completely forget about the pain it would cause to other people without actually realizing it themselves? BS If they have the mental capacity to put the pills in their mouth or actually want to kill themselves then there is no way in this world they wouldn't have the mental capacity to realize that people are going to be sad when they are gone.

 

[jaguarr]

Apparently mental illness is the same as 'brain damage'

No, someone who suffers a head trauma and loses mental capacity as a result and can no longer feed, clothe or bathe themselves is just being a selfish a-hole who doesn't care about the impact that has on the people around them.

jag

 

[Colossal Spoons]

How WONDERFUL it must be for Ace of Knaves to have never experienced a suffocating depression that drained the colour and sound out of his perception of the world and made day to day existence hot, stuffy, painful and nearly unbearable.

How wonderful. FOR YOU. That you've never had to sit with the realization that day to day life has simply become a tedious chore, and how ****ing LOVELY it must be that any hardships you've gone through, your mind hasn't given out, and you've always been certain that things would feel good again. How amazing it must've felt even at the worst of times to remember how it felt when things were better.

You should be ecstatic that your mind never treated you so bad and your plight never got so unrelatable that you could no longer consider the selfishness of your actions.

**** you. You know **** about depression or mental illness.

Whoa man, heavy stuff.

No they aren't. They're mentally incapacitated. They're trying to communicate what's going on with them in the only way they can through the filter of their mental illness.

jag

See, if this was anywhere else but the misc section of bb.com, somebody might have taken it more seriously the first few times. But you've seen that place, who knows what's real or not

 

[jaguarr]

Errr what? My whole argument with you guys was that i find it selfish. I'll break it down for you. If someone, like you say, is sooooooooo mentally diseased that they don't want to continue living are you seriously telling me that they would completely forget about the pain it would cause to other people without actually realizing it themselves? BS If they have the mental capacity to put the pills in their mouth or actually want to kill themselves then there is no way in this world they wouldn't have the mental capacity to realize that people are going to be sad when they are gone.

Your grasp of the basic concepts of mental illness are loose at best.

jag

 

[Erzengel]

LR, Jag, JLBats?

 

[Logan's Runt]

Errr what? My whole argument with you guys was that i find it selfish. I'll break it down for you. If someone, like you say, is sooooooooo mentally diseased that they don't want to continue living are you seriously telling me that they would completely forget about the pain it would cause to other people without actually realizing it themselves? BS If they have the mental capacity to put the pills in their mouth or actually want to kill themselves then there is no way in this world they wouldn't have the mental capacity to realize that people are going to be sad when they are gone.

YES

They are DELUSIONAL. Detached from reality. Being detached from reality doesn't mean you're in wonderland and running into walls because you don't see ANY of the real world. Most of the time they can semi-function in the real world, except for certain DELUSIONS. Some people believe they see purple horses on fire chasing them, and some people believe that NO ONE CARES NO MATTER WHAT.

 

[Bubonic]

Meh.
Guess I don't value human life as much as some of you do.
Very overrated.

And I still feel I'm an all around nice guy, a great buddy irl.

 

[Logan's Runt]

No, someone who suffers a head trauma and loses mental capacity as a result and can no longer feed, clothe or bathe themselves is just being a selfish a-hole who doesn't care about the impact that has on the people around them.

jag

O i c

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Your grasp of the basic concepts of mental illness are loose at best.

jag

Yea they are, but I don't need to have a good grasp. It's simple. You guys are basically using the "mental disease" as an excuse to not care about the pain that will be cause by your actions. If I was genuinly depressed, so much so that I wanted to kill myself I would still know that my actions would cause pain. It really is as simple as that. And if i didn't realize that my actions would cause pain then that surely mean that I would be so mentally diseased that I wouldn't even know what a pain killer is let alone know how to take it. I get what you're saying though, someone who is that mentally depressed can only think about killing themselves whether they like it or not, well I think that is complete BS.

 

[Erzengel]

But you don't suffer from mental illness?

You know what killing yourself would do to others around you.

They don't think that logically.

Being depressed takes on a whole new meaning if you are mentally ill.

 

[Bubonic]

I'm thinking my basic views on life, and things like suicide and suicidal people might coincide with the Comedians were he real.

 

[Logan's Runt]

Yea they are, but I don't need to have a good grasp. It's simple. You guys are basically using the "mental disease" as an excuse to not care about the pain that will be cause by your actions. If I was genuinly depressed, so much so that I wanted to kill myself I would still know that my actions would cause pain. It really is as simple as that. And if i didn't realize that my actions would cause pain then that surely mean that I would be so mentally diseased that I wouldn't even know what a pain killer is let alone know how to take it. I get what you're saying though, someone who is that mentally depressed can only think about killing themselves whether they like it or not, well I think that is complete BS.

That's like saying 'IF I WERE SCHIZOPHRENIC I'D KNOW THE TELEPHONE WAS NOT THE DEVIL'

You're NOT, so you DON'T KNOW

But it'd obvious you're determined to remain ignorant and believe something contrary to reality, so let's hope you never become delusional and have to actually experience it. Oh wait...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

YES

They are DELUSIONAL. Detached from reality. Being detached from reality doesn't mean you're in wonderland and running into walls because you don't see ANY of the real world. Most of the time they can semi-function in the real world, except for certain DELUSIONS. Some people believe they see purple horses on fire chasing them, and some people believe that NO ONE CARES NO MATTER WHAT.

What so they are so deluded that they don't actually realize the pain they will cause? Hmmm ok I think I get ya.

 

[Logan's Runt]

What so they are so deluded that they don't actually realize the pain they will cause? Hmmm ok I think I get ya.

It's just as selfish of you to disregard the suicidal person's pain and suffering because they cause pain to others as you claim it is for them to commit suicide and cause the pain.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What does that mean?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It's just as selfish of you to disregard the suicidal person's pain and suffering because they cause pain to others as you claim it is for them to commit suicide and cause the pain.

Why is it selfish? I'm not thinking about mySELF am i? I'm thinking about the persons family and other loved ones. The ones who are left behind and will have to actually live on in pain.

 

[DeGenerate10]

Please get back on topic this thread was so much more entertaining back then.

 

[Erzengel]

What does that mean?

Tom Cruise went on the Today Show and informed Matt Lauer that he knew the history of mental illness so he was well informed of the dangers of prescription medicine on the people with mental illness. Tom Cruise believes that mental illness can be cured through vitamins and positive thinking.

 

[Bubonic]

glib
One entry found.


Main Entry:
glib Listen to the pronunciation of glib
Pronunciation:
\ˈglib\
Function:
adjective
Inflected Form(s):
glib·ber; glib·best
Etymology:
probably modification of Low German glibberig slippery
Date:
1584

1 a: marked by ease and informality : nonchalant b: showing little forethought or preparation : offhand <glib answers> c: lacking depth and substance : superficial <glib solutions to knotty problems>2archaic : smooth , slippery3: marked by ease and fluency in speaking or writing often to the point of being insincere or deceitful <a glib politician>
&#8212; glib·ly adverb
&#8212; glib·ness noun

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

I suffered from Depression. Suicidal thoughts will run threw your mind constantly if you like it or not. You feel drained, psychically and mentally. Nothing excites you that you once loved i.e tv, dating, eating, exercise etc and you feel detached from reality. It's a terrible feeling and I'm glad I got help. But for weaker people who don't get the help or support, I can see why they would hit the breaking point.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Tom Cruise went on the Today Show and informed Matt Lauer that he knew the history of mental illness so he was well informed of the dangers of prescription medicine on the people with mental illness. Tom Cruise believes that mental illness can be cured through vitamins and positive thinking.

LOL. Well I don't think that.

 

[Bubonic]

'Cause suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes,
And I can take or leave it if I please

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Please get back on topic this thread was so much more entertaining back then.

Ha, we're trying NOT to ridicule the hell out of people on the internet and you wanna go back to that?

 

[I Am The Knight]

How WONDERFUL it must be for Ace of Knaves to have never experienced a suffocating depression that drained the colour and sound out of his perception of the world and made day to day existence hot, stuffy, painful and nearly unbearable.

How wonderful. FOR YOU. That you've never had to sit with the realization that day to day life has simply become a tedious chore, and how ****ing LOVELY it must be that any hardships you've gone through, your mind hasn't given out, and you've always been certain that things would feel good again. How amazing it must've felt even at the worst of times to remember how it felt when things were better.

You should be ecstatic that your mind never treated you so bad and your plight never got so unrelatable that you could no longer consider the selfishness of your actions.

**** you. You know **** about depression or mental illness.

Whoa. That's extreme stuff, Bats.

 

[Heretic]

I know this dude...real loser...stunk to high heaven and was convinced he was Marilyn Manson. Someone, somewhere got ahold of his picture and put the phrase "I'm so goth I $#!+ Bats" on it. That picture went around the net for awhile, and I felt a little warm inside knowing that I was witnessing the humiliation and degradation of some idiot I knew.