Guys who need to be Pooped On: Kevin Trudeau

[jaguarr]

He's sorry for being rude...to the un-educated...gee thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW9HvpnZztU

Dude's an idiot that thinks he's an "expert". I'm done with him. He's going to do all these things that are endangering his health regardless of what I tell him. Good luck to him and all the other sheep that follow him and Dr. Simeons. They deserve all the endocrine system problems, screwed up metabolisms and eventual weight re-gain they are going to get.

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Dude's an idiot that thinks he's an "expert". I'm done with him. He's going to do all these things that are endangering his health regardless of what I tell him. Good luck to him and all the other sheep that follow him and Dr. Simeons. They deserve all the endocrine system problems, screwed up metabolisms and eventual weight re-gain they are going to get.

jag

I just made a post about his Alkaline diet theory, which of course is bull because no cell can survive in an Alkaline environment and no food can affect one's pH.

Yeah, he's an expert alright . I've been trying to get a athletic physique for going on 10 years (and achieved said goal for the last 2), and he (that fatass) is an expert. Well f*** me then, me and my six pack abs must have no f***ing clue what we're doing.

Piss off JustSom3Dud3.

Although I'm still going to flood his videos with research.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

You bought your abs from the Acme store

 

[ShadowBoxing]

You bought your abs from the Acme store

"They" gave me those abs, and "I" don't want you to know about how.

[BLACKOUT]It was HCG injections[/BLACKOUT]










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[Colossal Spoons]

Trudeau better have a 6-pack lol

 

[Noir]

Trudeau has a six pack wallet, it holds all the money he's swindled people out of.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Trudeau better have a 6-pack lol

Not exactly Frank Zane.

 

[kainedamo]

"The people that germs affect are unhealthy people".

That sure is a pearl of wisdom from that guy on the weight loss program.

 

[kainedamo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XibhsHJjk



On Kevin Trudeau

Columbus didn't discover America?? What the hell is he talking about?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Well technically he discovered an island off of America and their were people here before him...but for all intents and purposes, he discovered America

 

[kainedamo]

Is that what he means, or is he talking about something else?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

"The people that germs affect are unhealthy people".

That sure is a pearl of wisdom from that guy on the weight loss program.

No, he did not say that!?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

"The people that germs affect are unhealthy people".

That sure is a pearl of wisdom from that guy on the weight loss program.

I feel like saying to him "what about healthy people getting sick".

He gets his basis from Bechamp, who claimed "[pathogens] are nothing the terrain is everything". Meaning if you take a proactive approach to health you won't get sick. Great advice Einstien , I would've called your theory the "common sense theory" but I guess that was taken. Essentially the problem with the theory is that it assumes pathogens cannot live in a healthy, or sterile environment which is not true. Tons of people catch a variety of different disease while they are in hospitals.

His theory would only be applicable if you could erradicate disease to begin with. However, so long as people capable of passing a disease I am at risk. He's right that people who exercise obviously have a higher auto-immunity, but they can still get sick.

The reason Bechamp is forgotten is because despite his very proactive approach to health, it's not effective treatment. Once you get sick, you cannot just switch to healthy foods, take long walks and expect your cancer or seizers to stop.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

*slaps forehead*

 

[jaguarr]

There's absolutely no reasoning with folks who have made up their minds about the medical community being out to just take their money and keep them sick. When they resort to the type of thinking we're seeing, they're completely and utterly beyond help. They've rationalized it all a thousand times over in their delusional little heads. They're incredibly misinformed about health care and nutrition and often dabble with potentially hazardous substances and practices as a result (as we are seeing with this idiot). I'll never wish ill will on someone, but guys like this are going to find themselves in some serious trouble at some point with their health because of the things they are doing. Good luck to them. They're going to need it.

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

There's absolutely no reasoning with folks who have made up their minds about the medical community being out to just take their money and keep them sick. When they resort to the type of thinking we're seeing, they're completely and utterly beyond help. They've rationalized it all a thousand times over in their delusional little heads. They're incredibly misinformed about health care and nutrition and often dabble with potentially hazardous substances and practices as a result (as we are seeing with this idiot). I'll never wish ill will on someone, but guys like this are going to find themselves in some serious trouble at some point with their health because of the things they are doing. Good luck to them. They're going to need it.

jag

Ditto. I mean I posted my response about an Alkaline body pH (such utter nonsense), but what's he gonna come back and say "dur yur not researched like mes, I are better at health than yu, look at how skinnees Is ams". And of course then I'll respond by posting the article done by the University of Georgetown Medical, to which I'll probably get back some Trudeau-esque response about how those guys are trying to keep me sick...and the cycle continues.

However I do enjoy the fact that he works overtime and makes more videos in response to our comments.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Someone did post this on his last vid: I remember there being a lot more comments. Seems you want to delete any comment that contradicts you in anyway. Open discussion my ass. Pathetic.

 

[jaguarr]

He still hasn't cited any of his research sources. Unless, of course denoting having read a Tony Robbins book is his idea of a research source.

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

He still hasn't cited any of his research sources. Unless, of course denoting having read a Tony Robbins book is his idea of a research source.

jag

Tony Robbins was one. Kevin Trudeau was another. The 1950s study by Dr. Simeons was his *main* resource. Some unidentified Simeons cure board, possibly Trudeau's (as he created one). He also mentioned the works of Antoine Bechamp.

I'd say that about sums it up.

 

[jaguarr]

Yeah. He hasn't done any research.

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah. He hasn't done any research.

jag

Correction: He's done bad research

 

[jaguarr]

Correction: He's done bad research

He hasn't done ANY research as far as I'm concerned. He's read some books by guys who espouse harmful, ridiculous crap without verifying ANY of the information they claim as fact by investigating what he was told in those books. A good researcher tries to find legitimate scholastic or scientific articles that both support AND debunk these kinds of claims. I KNOW he hasn't researched HCG whatsoever because he kept arguing with me that it doesn't affect the hormonal panel or endocrine system, which tells me that he doesn't know jack about the stuff he's injecting into his body. I even GAVE him a very easy to read link that explains how HCG works on the hormonal panel in laymen's terms for him. I don't think he even read it.

jag

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Cybernetic Ghost: "Thousands of years ago a man named Dr. Simeons created a cure...a cure for being fat. It involved injected yourself with the pee from a pregnant lady and strangely enough, to me, colonics. However the monkeys rejected Simeons, burning him and there was much defication...I have come from the future to undo the past...which never was"
Frylock: Okay...so this guy, what was his name...
"Dr. Simeons...and don't you forget it.
Right Right...so he said by getting enemas, and not eating you can lose weight...
"That is very correct. Kneel before Simeons, Trudeau and Robbins. Kneel and consume only 500 calories a day and inject urine...there will be much defication...
You mentioned that...so basically, I'm just not eating.
Well....I mean....I guess so.
That's just ******ed.
....Ummm, damn. Didn't have to be so mean.

....Hold on a minute.

Dr Weird (as Simeons): Gentlemen...I am Doctor Simeons. Creator of the weight loss cure THEY don't want you to know about.
Who the hell are they...
The American Medical Association...and...the Illumanti.
It's alright, Benny, I got this.
My name's not...
Benny is right...it's all the illumanti's fault.
Have either of you ever met the Illumanti?
Well...I...uh...no.
*starts hacking away at his legs with a chainsaw*
See, my cure works. I just cut out 20 - 30 more pounds!!!!

Master Shake: Hey Frylock...check out this book I got on weight loss. This guy, Trudy, he says I can lose all the weight I want with the urine from pregnant chicks. Quick, get me a girl...I got to get her pregnant.
Shake, that scam is not gonna help you lose weight. You need to use diet and exercise.

Carl: Hey fryman...hey cup. Hey check out this Simeons diet I'm on...this sh** really works. I can eat all the organic food I want...inject this urine from a pregnant chick...and I get skinny. This is freakin' great
Dear Lord!!!...you've eaten away at your system...you look terrible.
Ah health smealth...liberal media. All I know is your guaranteed to shed pounds in inches in 30 days.
That's it I want to meet this Kevin Trudeau

Ignignokt: We are Kevin Trudeau. Famous health gurus and anti-establishment conspirators.
Err: Conspiri-nominon.!
And you Fryman are about to be teabaged by the nads of fad dieting.
Fear the power of our nads
Oh My God! Your Kevin Trudeau...oh my God...you gotta sign my book
That's not Kevin Trudeau, Shake
No way, why would Kevin Trudeau lie.
Your gullible friend is right. We don't lie.
'cept when we do, which is all the time.
Shut up Err, I am in control of this conversation.
...Why would we lie, when unlike your world, we have cured cancer.
You've cured cancer? (sarcastic)
Yes on the moon we have cured all diseases.
Except for butt cancer, butt crack cancer!
And we have evolved beyond primative concepts such as money.

...Now give us 99.95 for the weight loss cure and $499 for the website...
I thought you said you didn't care about money.
We don't. That's why we take yours, so you don't have to worry about it anymore.
...And ignore any frauduent charges on your credit card...you too can be thin
Fraudinator.
I think I've heard enough of this
*Blasts Mooninites with eye beams"

Err...I think I hear the moon oven on....let's get out of here.
Well thank God they're gone.
Why you always gotta cramp my style Frylock. They were gonna help me lose weight...and get some chick pregnant.
Meatwad: Why wasn't I in this episode at all...everyone else was...even Kevin Trude-Trudea - Trudy.
It's cause everyone hates you...sorry, it's a fact

 

[ShadowBoxing]

He hasn't done ANY research as far as I'm concerned. He's read some books by guys who espouse harmful, ridiculous crap without verifying ANY of the information they claim as fact by investigating what he was told in those books. A good researcher tries to find legitimate scholastic or scientific articles that both support AND debunk these kinds of claims. I KNOW he hasn't researched HCG whatsoever because he kept arguing with me that it doesn't affect the hormonal panel or endocrine system, which tells me that he doesn't know jack about the stuff he's injecting into his body. I even GAVE him a very easy to read link that explains how HCG works on the hormonal panel in laymen's terms for him. I don't think he even read it.

jag

Yeah he's pretty stupid. I wish their was some way for him to make good on his challenge...but I'm not making a goddamn video...so that's out.

Unfortunately, he's got sheep. One of them even tried to claim being fat gave him a better understanding of health and wellness than a skinny person because "[the challenge of health] was part of his daily life".

The sad thing is these people will only learn through their grave mistakes. Unless you are skinny, or show that you can cultivate the results within yourself (as many athletes do spend time in a fatter state than usual) the you have no knowledge. I'm quite sure, to him, what he feels like he has done is research because he has no basis for understanding the material in the first place. To him his Tony Robbins book and Simeons are just as legitimate as a scholarly journal, or even worse, more legitimate.

It would be hard for someone like myself to look at my own progress and argue against it, which is why (largely) Trudeau and Simeons are hacks to me.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Is that what he means, or is he talking about something else?

He was simply attempting to illustrate how history gets things wrong. He was trying to prove that the "Germ Theory of Disease" was wrong and Bechamp was right. The problem he has with his logic though is the "Germ Theory" has changed since it's conception, and our understanding of it is more complex. He is right that Louis Pastuer saw only a small part of the picture, but such is the case with any new theory.