Hackers to Ashley Madison website: Pay up or we reveal the name of all your cheaters!

[DarthSkywalker]

In general I don't like cheating but I especially don't like it when the cheater is a high profile gay hating "family values" GOP/Conservative type. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy when those type of people are caught because they are horrible hypocrites. They deserve the humiliation.

Yep. Glass houses and all that.

 

[James]

As when this thread was first started, it seems a lot of the people who are gleeful about the information being released aren't looking at the bigger picture.

Yep. Glass houses and all that.

You may have to elaborate on that, evidently there's a good chunk of posters in this thread who aren't aware of the saying. Or maybe they're all shining pinnacles of good morals, given how many stones they're freely lobbing around.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You may have to elaborate on that, evidently there's a good chunk of posters in this thread who aren't aware of the saying. Or maybe they're all shining pinnacles of good morals, given how many stones they're freely lobbing around.

If you are going to make it your life mission to eradicate people because of who they love, you better practice what you preach. Blaming same sex couples for child molestation and the decay of "family" and then do crap like this. There is no comparison.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You may have to elaborate on that, evidently there's a good chunk of posters in this thread who aren't aware of the saying. Or maybe they're all shining pinnacles of good morals, given how many stones they're freely lobbing around.

I make a point to never denounce people for things I have personally done. But if I ever commit adultery please, by all means, throw those stones.

Not cheating on a loved one isn't being a shining pinnacle of morality. It's the bare basics of morality.

 

[James]

If you are going to make it your life mission to eradicate people because of who they love, you better practice what you preach. Blaming same sex couples for child molestation and the decay of "family" and then do crap like this. There is no comparison.

I agree. I'm not familiar with the famous guy, but I got the basics on why it's funny (or whatever) that he's been outed as a member of the site -I wasn't really talking about him though (I'm assuming you are).

I make a point to never denounce people for things I have personally done. But if I ever commit adultery please, by all means, throw those stones.

Not cheating on a loved one isn't being a shining pinnacle of morality. It's the bare basics of morality.

All I'm saying is, a lot of people are very quick to judge. That's the beginning and end of my point, I'm not going to get into the murky waters that are comparing one bad thing to another and which is worse and who gets to judge whom based on where they land on how crappy they've been to others throughout their lives.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Ok, I cheated on Jessica Alba with Monica Lewinsky.

Please forgive me!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree. I'm not familiar with the famous guy, but I got the basics on why it's funny (or whatever) that he's been outed as a member of the site -I wasn't really talking about him though (I'm assuming you are).

Yeah, SPIDEY and I were talking about this vile creature.

 

[jokesonm3]

Anyone have the current statistics of divorce rates as of august 2015?

 

[James]

Yeah, SPIDEY and I were talking about this vile creature.

In that case I took your glass houses comment out of context for my own purposes.

Regarding the famous guy, it's wild hypocrisy. I'm kind of fascinated by people like that, who adamantly champion a belief system (in public no less) that works against the exact thing they do privately. It's a little off topic, but I wonder why public figures do that -and do they hate themselves the whole time- do they even believe their own rhetoric?

 

[KevanG]

Anyone have the current statistics of divorce rates as of august 2015?

I'm sure it won't make a dent given the divorce rates beforehand.

 

[jokesonm3]

I'm sure it won't make a dent given the divorce rates beforehand.

True.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

This is one case where I support hackers or whomever leaked all this information out. Adultery is wrong no matter how you look at it. Cheating on your spouse because they aren't putting out like you want them to isn't an excuse either. I know some people who signed up for the signed didn't actually cheat, but being on the site means they were at least entertaining the idea. The person that invented this site in the first place should be held accountable as well. Even though I am not a fan of divorce, I think it's acceptable in cases like this. It's a shame that there are millions of people with no morals, sense right and wrong or actually respecting the vows they made.

 

[TheBat812]

This is one case where I support hackers or whomever leaked all this information out. Adultery is wrong no matter how you look at it. Cheating on your spouse because they aren't putting out like you want them to isn't an excuse either. I know some people who signed up for the signed didn't actually cheat, but being on the site means they were at least entertaining the idea. The person that invented this site in the first place should be held accountable as well. Even though I am not a fan of divorce, I think it's acceptable in cases like this. It's a shame that there are millions of people with no morals, sense right and wrong or actually respecting the vows they made.

Thinking about cheating is one thing, but actively seeking it out is another. Ultimately, we are human beings designed to try to maximize our chances of creating offspring, so adultery is a natural result of our biology, but it's true that people need to be a bit less selfish and think about the consequences of cheating on anyone involved in terms of their psychological effect.

 

[DeadPresident]

"Adultery is a natural result of our biology"...? So is murder in many cases, so is rape. Is it asking too much for people to just attempt to show a bit more thought and awareness than your average bonobo in heat?

****ing hell humans have low standards.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

This is one case where I support hackers or whomever leaked all this information out. Adultery is wrong no matter how you look at it. Cheating on your spouse because they aren't putting out like you want them to isn't an excuse either. I know some people who signed up for the signed didn't actually cheat, but being on the site means they were at least entertaining the idea. The person that invented this site in the first place should be held accountable as well. Even though I am not a fan of divorce, I think it's acceptable in cases like this. It's a shame that there are millions of people with no morals, sense right and wrong or actually respecting the vows they made.

Being trapped in a sexless marriage sounds like a less-than-ideal way to spend the rest of one's life. I'm not saying cheat, but you're against leaving too. What's a person to do?

 

[TheBat812]

It absolutely is a result of our biology. Actually ACTING on it is a different matter, which is more of a matter of the nature of your relationship. Some couples are totally fine with open relationships because they aren't threatened by adultery. It really is a matter of perspective, knowing your partner, and knowing their limits and how it will affect them. If you know it will hurt them and you do it anyways, you're being selfish.

I wouldn't say it's inherently right or wrong to cheat on your significant other, but because of how it will affect a person you care about, it should matter to you, and it's a personal choice if it's right or wrong. Personally, I wouldn't cheat because I would find myself to be a terrible person because I know it would hurt the person I love. As someone who has been cheated on, I know this pain and would not want to inflict this on others. This doesn't change the fact that I have met people who I've been attracted to and who have been attracted to me, which brought the physical urge to do something about it - the difference was in my reaction - I cut ties because I knew any kind of action would likely result in all three of us ending up feeling wronged and unhappy.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Adultery is wrong and there is no excuse for it PERIOD. It's something that can not be defended. Like I said if your spouse isn't putting out like you want them to then talk about it. If that doesn't work or if you both are that unhappy then get a divorce. But don't cheat while your married have some morals and class and break it off with your spouse instead of making a mockery of marriage.

 

[TheBat812]

Adultery is wrong and there is no excuse for it PERIOD. It's something that can not be defended. Like I said if your spouse isn't putting out like you want them to then talk about it with them. If that doesn't work or if you both are that unhappy then get a divorce. But don't cheat whole your married have some morals and class and break it off with your spouse instead of making a mockery of marriage.

This is based on your religious conviction, but as a nihilist and agnostic, there is no inherent right and wrong. Is it foolish and stupid to put your marriage and financial assets at risk? Absolutely. But life isn't so black and white. That's not to say I don't respect your right to your belief, and I hope you live your life in that manner, or you'd be a hypocrite (as I'm sure MANY of the cheaters on Ashley Madison are, I mean the most adulterers came from the HUGELY religious state of Colorado). But even being a hypocrite is being human. It doesn't make a you a great person, but it is human. My point though, is that the temptation to cheat is always out there - attraction is a natural thing, and will likely occur to everybody on varying levels. It is how one reacts to it that speaks to their character and circumstance. If you do cheat, you likely either lack conviction in your current relationship or you lack moral standing. It's not really for me to judge, only to observe, and make my own decisions for my own life.

Also, the word excuses is bogus to me. There are reasons for actions, but never excuses for anything. An excuse is a justification to oneself, and it's something for weak people.

Btw, I'm talking beyond just adultery, but cheating in general with a boyfriend/girlfriend. I do think it's worse when you've committed to that person via marriage, but it's still a marginal difference. The committment is an internal one. There are many couples who are not married who I'm sure are more devoted and respectful of each other than many married couples out there.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Also, the word excuses is bogus to me. There are reasons for actions, but never excuses for anything. An excuse is a justification to oneself, and it's something for weak people.

I've been thinking this throughout this entire thread. Excuse also implies remorse. Not all of these AM users are sorry and I'm sure some welcome the end of their relationship.

 

[DeadPresident]

You should specify that as a "moral nihilist".

 

[Greens]

The person that invented this site in the first place should be held accountable as well.

Giving people a platform to commit adultery is not illegal.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If I were going to cheat on my partner (whom doesn't exist lol) I wouldn't use a website to do so. I just can't get over the fact that these people couldn't get side ass on their own.

 

[chaseter]

Being trapped in a sexless marriage sounds like a less-than-ideal way to spend the rest of one's life. I'm not saying cheat, but you're against leaving too. What's a person to do?

But why would a cheater be against leaving their sexless, loveless, unfulfilling relationship? Are they masochists!?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah if you are in a sexless marriage and don't dig it then get a freakin divorce. Duh.

 

[TheBat812]

You should specify that as a "moral nihilist".

That is implied in the term nihilist. Nihilists believe there are no inherent rights or wrongs, everything is a construct of society and culture.