Sequels Halle Calls Out To Xmen Fans For X4

I just hope that if they do decide to make a fourth X-men movie, they get different writers and a different director. I'm not saying Singers movie were perfect but i'd take him over Ratner any day of the week. He seemed to care much more for these characters. Although he may not have understood all of them completely.
 
Any news on an X4 or the young x-men spin-off ??? The actors are getting old ... >_<
 
No word on anything save for X-Men Origins: Wolverine. That movie seems to be the focus for the next year or so.
 
Well, the flying was an improvement, for sure, in the character's physical portrayal at least. But the characterisation in X3 lacked compassion and soul.

The flying was miniscule and pathetically used. She flew about as much as she did in the first movie. So to me its ******** like, "Oh we are going to treat Storm and Halle Berry like the star that she is this time!" And none of that happened. Like all of it was Bryan Singer's fault. Well then what's the excuse for X-men 3?

Singer's directing got better results from Halle than Ratner's directing. Halle has proved she can do dramatic acting with her other movies.

Which just proves how much of an idiots Halle Berry is. I didn't hear her complaining about X-men 3. They probably paid her a lot more to shut her mouth.

What's needed is for actor, writer and director all to understand Storm's character - all those things haven't come together thus far.

Halle Berry postured and it still came out to be a mess. So I don't think there are any excuses for her.
 
The flying was miniscule and pathetically used. She flew about as much as she did in the first movie. So to me its ******** like, "Oh we are going to treat Storm and Halle Berry like the star that she is this time!" And none of that happened. Like all of it was Bryan Singer's fault. Well then what's the excuse for X-men 3? .

Well, she didn’t fly AT ALL in the acclaimed X2.

I saw no problems with her flight in X3. It would have looked silly to have her zooming round all over the place like Superman with outstretched hands/fists. The Danger Room scene established the notion of flight for her character, the scene at the Grey house showed her rising in the air and using winds creatively in a twister fashion, and the descent on to Alcatraz was also well done. She then flew up, and was brought down by Callisto.

Obviously you can’t count. There were four flight sequences in X3, compared to one brief levitation up an elevator shaft in X1 and nothing at all in X2. So, get your facts straight.

It was about time the woman used the cape that she wore. X3 showed it, and it showed enough for a multi-character/ensemble movie.

This isn’t even a valid complaint. It’s just you choking on your own bile as always. Case dismissed. :word:

And, by the way, the correct spelling is minuscule, not miniscule. It’s a common error among the masses. :dry:



Which just proves how much of an idiots Halle Berry is. I didn't hear her complaining about X-men 3. They probably paid her a lot more to shut her mouth.


Halle Berry postured and it still came out to be a mess. So I don't think there are any excuses for her .


But the flight wasn’t the ‘problem’. This is just a ridiculous red herring. Flight was a definite plus point, not one of the negatives. There were negatives, but flight is not one of them.:down
 
Well, she didn’t fly AT ALL in the acclaimed X2.

Again not Singer's fault. Always because of Fox corners had to be cut and things had to be taken out. Singer was gone for X-men 3 and still all these things they said they were going to fix and improve didn't happen. And Halle Berry still sucked as Storm.

I saw no problems with her flight in X3. It would have looked silly to have her zooming round all over the place like Superman with outstretched hands/fists. The Danger Room scene established the notion of flight for her character, the scene at the Grey house showed her rising in the air and using winds creatively in a twister fashion, and the descent on to Alcatraz was also well done. She then flew up, and was brought down by Callisto.

LOL! STORM NEEDS TO FLY EVERYONE COMES UP TO ME AND ASKS WHY DOESN'T STORM FLY?! I WANT STORM TO FLY! All she did was jump in and go out of frame a handful of times. I think the whole point is that Storm doesn't truly fly at all. She uses wind to help lift her up and glide and hover. Halle Berry really doesn't know anything about the character at all.

Obviously you can’t count. There were four flight sequences in X3, compared to one brief levitation up an elevator shaft in X1 and nothing at all in X2. So, get your facts straight.

I didn't mention X-men 2. I'd hardly call what she did in X-men 3 flight sequences.

It was about time the woman used the cape that she wore. X3 showed it, and it showed enough for a multi-character/ensemble movie.

Then why are you saying Singer got more out of her performance?

This isn’t even a valid complaint. It’s just you choking on your own bile as always. Case dismissed. :word:

You mean the same bile Halle Berry didn't have a few years ago when she said she was done with X-men and would only do CATWOMAN 2?

But the flight wasn’t the ‘problem’. This is just a ridiculous red herring. Flight was a definite plus point, not one of the negatives. There were negatives, but flight is not one of them.:down

Ok so she got to "fly" this time. But I wonder what changed her mind all of the sudden. The point was, "Yeah we are going to go all out with Storm this time! We are going to treat Halle Berry like the star she is!" Blah blah blah ******** ******** ********.

As of right now, James Marsden is a more bankable star at the moment than Halle Berry, and he NEVER got the treatment he deserved in the sequels, especially X-men 3 which could've been his chance to be a more significant character. But nah, its all HALLE BERRY WE ARE GOING TO TREAT HER RIGHT THIS TIME!
 
Again not Singer's fault. Always because of Fox corners had to be cut and things had to be taken out. Singer was gone for X-men 3 and still all these things they said they were going to fix and improve didn't happen. And Halle Berry still sucked as Storm.

Unless you know for sure that scenes of Storm flying were cut from X2 for reasons of budget, this is a total red herring.


LOL! STORM NEEDS TO FLY EVERYONE COMES UP TO ME AND ASKS WHY DOESN'T STORM FLY?! I WANT STORM TO FLY! All she did was jump in and go out of frame a handful of times. I think the whole point is that Storm doesn't truly fly at all. She uses wind to help lift her up and glide and hover. Halle Berry really doesn't know anything about the character at all.

And we saw Storm use winds to lift her up in X3, so your complaining is ridiculous. I think the amount and type of flight in X3 was fine. The flight scenes weren't the 'problem' with the character depiction.


I didn't mention X-men 2. I'd hardly call what she did in X-men 3 flight sequences.

In a multi-character ensemble movie, what she did in X3 was sufficient. The movie didn't call for lengthy solo flight sequence showing her zoom across the sky like Superman. It was also considerably more than her scene rising from the elevator in X2 and 100% more than her total lack of flight in X2.


Then why are you saying Singer got more out of her performance?

Singer got more out of her in terms of emotional depth and dialogue - that's what i mean by performance, her actual acting/emoting, not the power display scenes. Singer's power display scenes for Storm were fine too, though a bit sparse.

I think the power display scenes for Storm in X3 were great (I wish they'd also used the flash-flood scene, other people didn't like the way all that rain fell so quickly), but I think the X3 version lacked a bit of soul and compassion in places. A scene with Storm talking to Kitty at the gravestones was cut, and also the origin dialogue on the balcony - both of those would have helped give the character more heart. But she should also have showed more compassion towards Rogue - that was the only real failing in the finished movie as seen on screen. Giving up on Jean/Phoenix is arguable, since the two women never really showed a strong bond in the previous movies, so her strong standpoint against Jean/Phoenix in X3 is more understandable.


You mean the same bile Halle Berry didn't have a few years ago when she said she was done with X-men and would only do CATWOMAN 2?

I think a lot of actors (and also directors/producers/studio chiefs) don't truly understand the modern expectations of a comicbook movie. They treat it as something utterly fantastical and think superficiality and corny/hammy/cheesy stuff is part of the genre. There are also mainstream members of the public who think that. I know two people at work who will dismiss any comicbook/superhero movie as total hokum and would never to see one because they can't suspend disbelief that anyone would dress as a bat or be able to control weather or move an entire bridge with magnetism or lift a four-mile island into space. There was a time when comicbook movies/series were very much camp and comedic - think 60s Batman and 70s Wonder Woman. Some people think that they are just fantasy fun and cheesy entertainment, even today.

Since Halle is quite capable of heavily dramatic/emotional acting in other movies, then there is a reason she didn't bring that same deep emotion to Catwoman and to parts of X3. The writing, producing, directing, editing didn't put that deep emotion into those movies. I really don't know how much freedom is given to an actress like Halle in these movies - so I'm not sure how much she is really at fault.

It's clear you are rabidly slavering with hatred for her - and for just about everything else you ever debate on here.

There was indeed a time she said she was done with X-Men - and that was after she fell out with Singer during X2, when he got nasty with everyone due to being on pain medication or whatever it was. It doesn't seem unreasonable to feel 'done' with something where you didn't like the project and fell out with the director.


Ok so she got to "fly" this time. But I wonder what changed her mind all of the sudden. The point was, "Yeah we are going to go all out with Storm this time! We are going to treat Halle Berry like the star she is!" Blah blah blah ******** ******** ********.

Chill out, have a herbal tea and another pizza or three. The point was that a different director was involved and that they said they would write a strong part for the character. That sounds fine in theory. Her character did indeed have a strong part, but it went a little far in that direction, that's all. What's done is done and can't be undone.


As of right now, James Marsden is a more bankable star at the moment than Halle Berry, and he NEVER got the treatment he deserved in the sequels, especially X-men 3 which could've been his chance to be a more significant character. But nah, its all HALLE BERRY WE ARE GOING TO TREAT HER RIGHT THIS TIME!

James opted out of X3. Singer also tried to lure away Shawn Ashmore, Famke and even Jackman. Marsden was hardly going to be significant in X3 if he left the project to do SR. And, besides that, Cyclops was never made an important character previously - he's missing from most of X2. We've all been over all this a million times before. It just sounds like you can't let go and, as such, it's then your problem.
 
X-maniac, at the end of the day all you are really saying to me that she displayed more powers in the third movie, but her performance sucked compared to the other movies.
 
X-maniac, at the end of the day all you are really saying to me that she displayed more powers in the third movie, but her performance sucked compared to the other movies.

That sort of sums it up. I'd say X3's Storm needed more humanity and soul.

But I'd also say X1's Storm needed more oomph and X2's Storm needed a little more dynamism too (I think the scene of her stopping Cerebro with an arctic wind, presumably to shatter the concentration of Jason and Xavier, was weakly executed and should have seemed more powerful).

I'd also like Storm's powers to get more creative. We've now seen lightning and fog and she has other weapons in her arsenal. While simple powers are easier for the audience to understand, her powers could now be taken a little further in any future movie.
 
I think X1 Storm power display @ Liberty Island(when she fought Toad) was the best!! It showed her rage and display of power now if they would've combined her warrior like essence in X3 w/X1 then Storm would've been on point...

X2 Storm was ok...we know y Storm was afraid n angry and she learned how to have faith...she stepped up as Leader...had more lines n a presence n they did show a lil' bit of Jean's/Storm's relationship n on the deleted X-Jet scence...her ice blast scene was gr8 it showed another ability...

X3, well if they would have showed how her faith has grown since X2; how does her new faith feel about humanity now and how could humanity create this cure when she is learning not live in fear/anger of them, compassion for Jean n Scott(since they're long-time friends), they should have kept the scene w/her n Kitty at the graves n she have been included in the infirmary scene w/Prof. X n Logan...her power scenes where gr8 I did miss the flood scene...

All in all I think all 3 movies showed a diff. side of Storm they were jus done backwards
 
I think X1 Storm power display @ Liberty Island(when she fought Toad) was the best!! It showed her rage and display of power now if they would've combined her warrior like essence in X3 w/X1 then Storm would've been on point...

X2 Storm was ok...we know y Storm was afraid n angry and she learned how to have faith...she stepped up as Leader...had more lines n a presence n they did show a lil' bit of Jean's/Storm's relationship n on the deleted X-Jet scence...her ice blast scene was gr8 it showed another ability...

X3, well if they would have showed how her faith has grown since X2; how does her new faith feel about humanity now and how could humanity create this cure when she is learning not live in fear/anger of them, compassion for Jean n Scott(since they're long-time friends), they should have kept the scene w/her n Kitty at the graves n she have been included in the infirmary scene w/Prof. X n Logan...her power scenes where gr8 I did miss the flood scene...

All in all I think all 3 movies showed a diff. side of Storm they were jus done backwards

I don't think Storm/Nightcrawler interaction over faith was that well done. The conversation on the jet is fine. But when they need to get into Cerebro, Nightcrawler has no faith at all that he can get them in there, and Storm has faith in him that he can. It seemed an awkward resolution for the faith idea. I don't think she really developed true faith in that brief time, it would be impossible to do that.

I also thought the effects and cinematography on the arctic windstorm in Cerebro were a bit weak. It never gave the same sense of power we saw at the end of X1.

We hear on the jet in X2 that Storm says the X-Men are hiding at the mansion to be safe from everyone else. In X3, this idea is carried forward when Storm asks Xavier why they are still hiding, because she believes it's a better world out there with a more tolerant president, a Dept of Mutant Affairs with a mutant secretary, and Magneto on the run as a known fugitive and being tracked by the government.

In X3, we don't deeply explore the notion of faith but she does have faith that there is nothing wrong with being a mutant and nothing to be cured - that implies a lot of self-belief and self-acceptance. We see a stronger Storm, and - in the fight scenes - see some of the anger that in X2 she says helps her to survive. The character's growth is in accepting responsibility and taking over Xavier's dream. The real test of her strength - and faith - comes after that, in handling the school. (PS, it's part of the X4 I've partly written!). Running that school will be a test of faith; it will require a lot less of her anger and a lot more faith and control.
 
I think X1 Storm power display @ Liberty Island(when she fought Toad) was the best!! It showed her rage and display of power now if they would've combined her warrior like essence in X3 w/X1 then Storm would've been on point...

X2 Storm was ok...we know y Storm was afraid n angry and she learned how to have faith...she stepped up as Leader...had more lines n a presence n they did show a lil' bit of Jean's/Storm's relationship n on the deleted X-Jet scence...her ice blast scene was gr8 it showed another ability...

X3, well if they would have showed how her faith has grown since X2; how does her new faith feel about humanity now and how could humanity create this cure when she is learning not live in fear/anger of them, compassion for Jean n Scott(since they're long-time friends), they should have kept the scene w/her n Kitty at the graves n she have been included in the infirmary scene w/Prof. X n Logan...her power scenes where gr8 I did miss the flood scene...

All in all I think all 3 movies showed a diff. side of Storm they were jus done backwards

i agree with u 100%
 
I think X1 Storm power display @ Liberty Island(when she fought Toad) was the best!! It showed her rage and display of power now if they would've combined her warrior like essence in X3 w/X1 then Storm would've been on point...

X2 Storm was ok...we know y Storm was afraid n angry and she learned how to have faith...she stepped up as Leader...had more lines n a presence n they did show a lil' bit of Jean's/Storm's relationship n on the deleted X-Jet scence...her ice blast scene was gr8 it showed another ability...

X3, well if they would have showed how her faith has grown since X2; how does her new faith feel about humanity now and how could humanity create this cure when she is learning not live in fear/anger of them, compassion for Jean n Scott(since they're long-time friends), they should have kept the scene w/her n Kitty at the graves n she have been included in the infirmary scene w/Prof. X n Logan...her power scenes where gr8 I did miss the flood scene...

All in all I think all 3 movies showed a diff. side of Storm they were jus done backwards

I agree as well, the only thing I'd add, is that in a way, her accent in X-1 kind of made her more Storm, and distinguished her from just an actress playing a role
 
Regarding X4, well, all I have to say is, if they're going to crap on fans with another "sentinel/future past"-esque thing, then may it never get done.

As for Storm, she was always downplayed, in every single movie, 1 2 or 3. She was the token black chick, who justified one or two FX-heavy scenes and then went back to being part of the background. She may have been a better background in 1 or a better FX catalyst in 3, but those are moot points - she was never a main character. If Hale thinks she's loved for that... it's a pitiful thing indeed. Hale could probably have made a proper Storm, mind you - it's not the actress I'm bashing, but the part written for her.

Marvel made a complex world and all we've been getting is blue team vs red team :/ Aliens, demons, shadowy organizations, advanced tech (sentinels/phalanx), mutant outcasts, time travelers and powerful individuals apparently won't sell compared to a bigoted government and a geriatric magneto.
 
Regarding X4, well, all I have to say is, if they're going to crap on fans with another "sentinel/future past"-esque thing, then may it never get done.

What do you mean with "another sentinel/future past" thing?
 
The Danger Room sequence is a reference to Days of Future Past.
 
I knew it, but the film wasn't about that.
 
The people following the movie closely on these boards knew that. Casual moviegoers did not. The "sentinel" and post-apocalyptic landscape were featured in nearly every advert. Therefore, it makes sense that people would believe the X-Men would be fighting sentinels in a post-apocalyptic landscape (especially in a movie with a dramatic title like The Last Stand), just as much as people believed Angel and Cyclops would be seen fully suited up, because they were advertised as such.
 
oh, ok, I understand now.

Yes, they gave a different feeling about the movie in the trailers and all. something more epic.... but no, hehe.
 
I personally think shes the one that ruined X3, I mean think about it she was b*tching about how she didnt have a big role and that she would leave if they didnt give it to her sooo they did and they killed off Cyclops and Xavier, brought in gay-ass or not fully developed x-men characters just so she could have the damn part. Its so stupid, she just cant be a co-member she has to go and do a solo movie and mess that up and then come crawling back to Marvel and mess X3 up to. I was really mad about that cause X2 was amazing.
 
Do you really think the problem was Halle?

Hugh Jackman was the only star of X3, and of the full franchise, so in any case, he was the one that ruined X3, not Halle.
 
the script ruined X3, point blank. It was ridiculous and terrible all around!
 
yes, but it depended of the producers and Fox heads.

I think the writers could have done something better with total freedom.
 

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