Halo and the MU

[bkhedr]

Let me begin by saying that I am a Halo fanatic (games, books, comics, I gobble it all up) so maybe this isnt such a great idea but it sounds good to me.

Since Marvel is now going to be a publishing an ongoing Halo comic, and since the Halo Graphic Novel did so well, who here thinks it would be cool if Marvel tried to work a Spartan into the 616?

I for one think it would be awesone, and not too outlandish either. Picture a lone Spartan separated from his unit. He/She has just taken out a Covenant strike force and stolen a forerunner crystal (for those who dont know the Crystals bend time and space). Anyway maybe the Spartan is interecpted by Covenant forces and the crystal gets hit with a plasma burst

white light
massive explosion
presto

Spartan cybernetic supersoldier from an alternate future in his/her powered armor complete with onboard AI gets stranded in present day 616.

In terms of abilities/power level a Spartan would be very high end street level in the MU and I think it would be pretty cool

What do you guys think?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I think Iron Man could kick his ass.

 

[Deleted User]

You seriously underestimate the power of a Spartan.

 

[bkhedr]

Oh absolutely

but a Spartan would eat the likes of Captain America, Daredevil, et al for breakfast, and maybe even give Spidey a run for his money

 

[bkhedr]

You seriously underestimate the power of a Spartan.

Iron Man WOULD kick his ass. Of course if the Spartan has a smart AI in his armor then that AI (being from the year 2550 or whatever) could probably hack into Tony's systems and mess his S**T up. Failing that, the Spartan would be smart enough to run like hell.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Actually Iron Man used to utilize AI in his armor (he still might. I don't know, since most of the systems seem to run through his brain now.)

Either way. I don't know really how it would be recieved. Because the Spartan wouldn't really fit in, I would think. I mean, there's no Covenant to deal with, really, and he couldn't just go out and hunt them, nor really could he prepare Earth for their arrival. And his methods of problem solving would probably make him an anti-hero.

 

[bkhedr]

I doubt that any AI Tony has could match a UNSC smart AI, but that's besides the point.

You make a valid point about the Spartan not fitting but I think there might be possibilities there if even just as a limited series. The Spartans are soldiers with little to no social skills, out of their element they'd stay out of sight and try to gather information on their surroundings/try to find a way home and complete their mission. The Spartan's only friend would be his/her smart AI and his Mjolnir armor. Along the way he/she could get drawn into a super hero battle when he/she sees civilians in danger. Or maybe SHIELD could try to hunt the Spartan down.

Lots of possibilities. Some better than others.

As for there not being any Covenant, meh. The Spartans were initially developed to quell human rebellions on outer rim worlds. The government decided it made more sense to send in an elite force of super soldiers to take out the rebellion's leaders than it did to send the navy with guns blazing. The Spartans were a secret battalion with numerous campaigns and a decade of experience under their belts before the Covenant came along. So really the lack if Covenant shouldnt be an issue.

As for their ways of solving problems, yeah a Spartan would be an anti-hero.

 

[Tropico]

Sounds like a forced crossover like the soap opera one.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I could only really see the Spartan being some micro evolution of SHIELD units, really. But it could be that our only real exposures to the Spartan people are one or two books that didn't seem to sell well, and two games, which had zero focus on characters really, so we probably just don't know enough to do anything with Spartans to put them in 616.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Dammit Tropico! Now I'll have to reload my User CP, and click on this topic again!

 

[bkhedr]

Sounds like a forced crossover like the soap opera one.

of course its a forced crossover

like Supreme Power for example

Or spiderman - transformers

 

[bkhedr]

I could only really see the Spartan being some micro evolution of SHIELD units, really. But it could be that our only real exposures to the Spartan people are one or two books that didn't seem to sell well, and two games, which had zero focus on characters really, so we probably just don't know enough to do anything with Spartans to put them in 616.

I guess

I think they have alot of potential.

In any case I never said it was a great idea, just that I liked it.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, Supreme Power kind of fits in the fact it's two superhero teams. I can't remember how many Spartans there are, but isn't it like less than fifteen or something? I remember hearing it was a fairly low number. So where Supreme Power was two super powerful teams squaring off, we couldn't really do the same with a Halo crossover, because they would be killed fairly quick.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I guess

I think they have alot of potential.

In any case I never said it was a great idea, just that I liked it.

It's not really a horrible idea. It would be better off that Marvel Heros visit THEIR world.

 

[bkhedr]

Well, Supreme Power kind of fits in the fact it's two superhero teams. I can't remember how many Spartans there are, but isn't it like less than fifteen or something? I remember hearing it was a fairly low number. So where Supreme Power was two super powerful teams squaring off, we couldn't really do the same with a Halo crossover, because they would be killed fairly quick.

There were 40 spartans originally. I think there are like 4 left at this point. Obviously if they got into a battle with a superhero team they'd get squashed. That's why I think it would be cooler if it was a single Spartan stranded in the MU for a while. A single Spartan would be more interesting anyway, and if you had read the Halo novels (I dont know if you have) you'd see that a single Spartan could wreak havoc in the MU at least for awhile if he or she wanted to.

But taking a Marvel Hero and stranding him in the Halo Universe might work too. But which hero? Most Superheroes are either too powerful to function in the Halo U or too vulnerable to last very long.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Eh, I'd pick heros like Cap and such, that have a better durability factor, and higher fight factor. You obviously can't use someone like Iron Man, who probably doesn't even share the same power source as a future civilization, or Thor, really.

 

[bkhedr]

Thing is a single Spartan so outclasses Cap its ridiculous. They are perfect humans with genetic and cybernetic augmentations. They were powered body armor with motion detectors, on board AIs and energy shields. They are experts in both armed and unarmed combat. They were kidnapped as 9 year olds and subjected to grueling supersoldier training regimens for their entire lives. They are several times as strong, twice as agile, and twice as fast as Cap could ever hope to be.

Ultimate Cap would be more like it. Just because he can match their strength. Heck, Ultimate Cap's attitude would probably fit better in their universe too

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, if they're perfect humans, they'd really only be as strong as Cap. I think you're looking for superhumans.

 

[bkhedr]

They were perfect humans before the genetic and cybernetic augmentations

And the armor boosts their physical attributes further

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Ah. So they're sub Spider-Man I take? With physical abilities.

 

[bkhedr]

Yeah'd I' put them right about there. Definately not in Spidey's class, but close.

They also have near unbreakable bones, enhanced vision, and very little lactic acid build up.

 

[Tropico]

Dammit Tropico! Now I'll have to reload my User CP, and click on this topic again!

of course its a forced crossover

like Supreme Power for example

Or spiderman - transformers

Supreme Power? You mean the revamped version of Squadron Supreme? The one that have a history of being in the 616 universe? Oh, yeah, that's soooooooo forced. Meh, I could argue the Spidey one too considering Marvel made both comics and the Transformerverse was fairly different in the MU than the show or toys, but I won't.

Frankly, the whole "man out of place and time" has been done to death, IMO. He sounds like he would just be a superpowered Punisher to me. Then they would have his armor stolen and he has to try and get it back and destroy whatever they managed to reverse engineer. And then we find out that the armor was damaged and the Spartan guy is having trouble adapting to our century and now he has to do it on his lonesome because his AI is down. Wait, he won't be alone, he'll probably have a bum/homeless/crazy guy as
'friend. Either that or the obligatory kid that will bring out his repressed and hellish childhood to light. And then he obviously meets other of the MU as he tries to get his tech fixed and find a way home. Since I don't share your enthusiasm for HALO I guess it just sounds like a lame idea to me. Sorry to be so honest.

 

[bkhedr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Project

Go there for info on the Spartans if you are interested

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

^_^!!!

 

[bkhedr]

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