Harry at the hospital

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yah i posted something like this in harry's thread, but i decided that i think more people need to see this. a lot of people are complaining about how Harry acted like a dufus when he was in the hospital bed, and when i saw the movie i knew people were going to complain. the thing is that scene was totally realistic. anyone who has ever been knocked out, or put to sleep at the hospital, after waking up knows you act totally out of it. you act completely stoned, which harry may have actually been too, they may have put him on morphine. anyway he acted exactly like someone should in that situation.
 
i thought it was funny cause it was so realistic. its so funny seeing people on drugs in the hospital
 
It was good.

Some people weren't use to seeing him act like that. That's because the end of the first one, and all of Spider-Man 2 had him being angry and wanting Spider-Man dead.
That stuff wasn't bothering him after he woke up obviously, so he's acting like he used to. Normal and happy.
 
well.. he seemed even happier then when his father was alive
 
The hospital scene didn't bother me whatsoever.
 
yah i posted something like this in harry's thread, but i decided that i think more people need to see this. a lot of people are complaining about how Harry acted like a dufus when he was in the hospital bed, and when i saw the movie i knew people were going to complain. the thing is that scene was totally realistic. anyone who has ever been knocked out, or put to sleep at the hospital, after waking up knows you act totally out of it. you act completely stoned, which harry may have actually been too, they may have put him on morphine. anyway he acted exactly like someone should in that situation.
exactly,my cousin,hes 26 now,but 2 yrs ago,he got into a big accident that almost cost him his life,hes still recovering,but hes fine now,but he was on morphine,and he made up a bunch of **** like he said there was a chinese guy at the end of him bed poking him and telling him to **** off LOL
 
I gotta say, when I saw that scene, I almost felt I was watching Spider-Man -1.

D!
 
James Franco did the best acting job in SM3.

He was really able to reach back to Harry before his father's death when he had amnesia. Then he was able to be a despicable villain, and finally he became a self-sacrificing hero. And he made it all convincing within 2 hours plus.
 
well.. he seemed even happier then when his father was alive

Haha! Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! lol* I was like: "Man, Harry sure did change!" He wasn't even that happy in the first movie. He just seemed sooo goofy and almost child-like after that "accident". I almost started wondering if it was the same movie.

Don't get me wrong, I love James Franco as an actor and everything, but I think his "amnesia Harry" was just a little bit over the top. He could have acted more low-key and smiled just a little softer. Not cheesing like some monkey. LOL*
 
Well, his father was a real ass hole remember. So, in a way Harry is also free- he doesn't have to worry about his father accepting him any more. He can just be Harry for the first time in his life.

The reason he wasn't like this after the death is because of Spider-Man's involvement and how the death happened that he feels responsible and that he needs to become his father.

If you notice in SM1, Harry is always knocked down by his father and does everything to impress him. Thus, Harry wasn't "free" when his father was alive really... for the first time in Harry's life he's free.

Not saying he's happy that his father is dead, definitely not the case. But, he doesn't feel weighted down by him anymore.
 
It came from he couldn't really remember his father and in the first one Harry's father in almost every scene was giving him **** and knocking him down. He didn't have any of that on his plate when he had amnesia. When his memories came back he was even more pissed thinking Peter had manipulated him then.
 
It came from he couldn't really remember his father and in the first one Harry's father in almost every scene was giving him **** and knocking him down. He didn't have any of that on his plate when he had amnesia. When his memories came back he was even more pissed thinking Peter had manipulated him then.
yah i loved how he remembers asking pete if his father is dead, and pete smiles and says yes
 
I loved the scenes after Harry came to. It was really heart-warming, but at the same time tragic because we knew it couldn't last.
 
he did sound kind of "off" in the hospital, i dont know if he had morphine though MAYBE IF THE MOVIE WOULDVE EXPLAINED that, hmmm sounds like another 'plot-hole'....was he put to sleep or just brought to conciousness?
 
Please READ this!

The scene with Harry in the hospital bed acting "stupid", has nothing to do with him beeing on morphine. I tried to do an in depth analyze of questions in the review-thread, and that thing about Harry acting so "goofey" as you say was one of those I tried to explain.

See, my theory is this!

Did Harry ever really enjoy life!??? I mean, how could he, with a father whom he knew wasn't proud of him for who he was! This was already shown in the very first scene between Harry and Norman, in Spidey 1. Harry ALWAYS felt the pressure of measuring up to his fathers expectations of the perfect son. A title he NEVER achieved from his fathers point of view! And it IS true, what Harry tells Peter in Spidey 2; Peter stole his fathers love!

Harry had a heart full of hate and vengence within him. Something he carried around in all of Spidey 2. He was going crazy having the image of his fathers ghost tormenting him from within; constantly in his face, telling him to kill Peter!

As I said, Harry never enjoyed life (this is pretty obvious) way back from Spidey 1. If that wasn't enough, he goes crazy feeling the need to kill his best friend; his ONLY chance of earning his fathers full accept (which is something he's searched for his whole life)! "You will always be weak until you take control". That's his father telling him what to do!

Now to the point! When Harry gets amnesia in spidey 3, he wakes up feeling like a million bucks! And it's not because of no damn morhpine. All the HATE, GUILT, VENGENCE, and PRESSURE he felt all his damn life is suddently gone! Gone with the wind! He doesn't remember non of that! He remembers his father, yes. "I just wish I could remember more about him...who he was" Harry says. Peter replies "He loved you, that's the important thing". So why, even though Harry can't remember more than that, should he feel sad?? He doesn't remember nothing about pressure or anything else, as I've said! Just that his father loved him (or so he's let to believe). "A bumb on the head, and I'm as free as a bird", remember Harry says that to MJ!? Those lines have meaning, you just gotta read between the lines! So please do so!!!

So, in closing, the way I see it, it's fully understandable that he acts like a silly little kid, who just won the chance to start over; beeing what he wanna be. And in Harry's case, I'd take amnesia as a gift too, considering his life before that.

This isn't even a theory of mine any more. It seems pretty obvious that this is the way to understand his behavior in the film, even though it isn't too obvious explained in the movie.
 
I really liked that scene. I mean Harry has amnesia so it's obvious he's not going to be completley normal. an besides, it's cool seeing him being nice to Peter again. Harry is happy there because he remembers nothing of Peter being Spiderman or Spiderman even killing his father so of course he's going to act like that. the scene was great IMO.
 
Please READ this!

The scene with Harry in the hospital bed acting "stupid", has nothing to do with him beeing on morphine. I tried to do an in depth analyze of questions in the review-thread, and that thing about Harry acting so "goofey" as you say was one of those I tried to explain.

See, my theory is this!

Did Harry ever really enjoy life!??? I mean, how could he, with a father whom he knew wasn't proud of him for who he was! This was already shown in the very first scene between Harry and Norman, in Spidey 1. Harry ALWAYS felt the pressure of measuring up to his fathers expectations of the perfect son. A title he NEVER achieved from his fathers point of view! And it IS true, what Harry tells Peter in Spidey 2; Peter stole his fathers love!

Harry had a heart full of hate and vengence within him. Something he carried around in all of Spidey 2. He was going crazy having the image of his fathers ghost tormenting him from within; constantly in his face, telling him to kill Peter!

As I said, Harry never enjoyed life (this is pretty obvious) way back from Spidey 1. If that wasn't enough, he goes crazy feeling the need to kill his best friend; his ONLY chance of earning his fathers full accept (which is something he's searched for his whole life)! "You will always be weak until you take control". That's his father telling him what to do!

Now to the point! When Harry gets amnesia in spidey 3, he wakes up feeling like a million bucks! And it's not because of no damn morhpine. All the HATE, GUILT, VENGENCE, and PRESSURE he felt all his damn life is suddently gone! Gone with the wind! He doesn't remember non of that! He remembers his father, yes. "I just wish I could remember more about him...who he was" Harry says. Peter replies "He loved you, that's the important thing". So why, even though Harry can't remember more than that, should he feel sad?? He doesn't remember nothing about pressure or anything else, as I've said! Just that his father loved him (or so he's let to believe). "A bumb on the head, and I'm as free as a bird", remember Harry says that to MJ!? Those lines have meaning, you just gotta read between the lines! So please do so!!!

So, in closing, the way I see it, it's fully understandable that he acts like a silly little kid, who just won the chance to start over; beeing what he wanna be. And in Harry's case, I'd take amnesia as a gift too, considering his life before that.

This isn't even a theory of mine any more. It seems pretty obvious that this is the way to understand his behavior in the film, even though it isn't too obvious explained in the movie.
yah but in the hospital he wasnt acting normal, he was acting loopy, and if you've ever seen anyone come to after being knocked out thats how they act
 
I didn't like the whole amnesia idea even if Franco's acting was spot on so I thought him acting like a doofus was dumb and off putting to the character.
 
yah but in the hospital he wasnt acting normal, he was acting loopy, and if you've ever seen anyone come to after being knocked out thats how they act
Fair enough.. one way or the other, it does make sense.
 
I liked that scene. I was moved by the way James delivered the line about giving his life to save his best friends.

My mother on the other hand, said that was a stupid scene and she thought that Harry was faking it. :dry:
 
The only line that's kind of funny in delivery is how he reacts to MJ entering the room. He gets all really really happy. ''I KNOW THAT FACE!!!"
 

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