Here's a 9/11 video for all you conspiracy theorists out there

[sinewave]

It questions whether a plane or a missile hit the pentagon on 9/11. Have at it.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

 

[Carter]

oh man....please don't get me started

 

[Carter]

Those "missile holes" in the inner sections of the E-Ring were created by fire fighting personnel.

 

[sinewave]

Those "missile holes" in the inner sections of the E-Ring were created by fire fighting personnel.

to get to the fire? hmmm...

 

[Carter]

Probably to vent the fire or something along those lines.
I really need to pick up the 9/11 report and read it one weekend.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Wow they really thought something that flew through the air with rocket engines and crashed sounded like a missel and explosion...wow I would have never guessed

The proof of this was misplaced according to the film

Don't continue make these threads....post it in one of the threads we already have please

 

[Carter]

And there were engine parts on the ground.
The plane vaporized on impact with a brick fortress.

It didn't crash in some field.

Besides there were bags of burnt luggage on the ground piled up.
I'm sure it was planted according to some people.

 

[sinewave]

Wow they really thought something that flew through the air with rocket engines and crashed sounded like a missel and explosion...wow I would have never guessed

The proof of this was misplaced according to the film

Don't continue make these threads....post it in one of the threads we already have please

yeah, i was too lazy to look up one of tsog's threads. sorry.

 

[Carter]

It is odd that the footage was confiscated, and they should release it, but that doesn't mean a missile hit the goddamn building.
It means that the government doesn't want footage of The Pentagon being blown up by an airplane released

 

[ShadowBoxing]

And there were engine parts on the ground.
The plane vaporized on impact with a brick fortress.

It didn't crash in some field.

Besides there were bags of burnt luggage on the ground piled up.
I'm sure it was planted according to some people.

It's like they expect a boeing to stay in one piece when it explodes

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Even if it was a plane, why is the government confiscating all this footage like they always do. If anything, the government shows little faith in the ability of it's citizens to comprehend these events.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Even if it was a plane, why is the government confiscating all this footage like they always do. If anything, the government shows little faith in the ability of it's citizens to comprehend these events.

First they probably did not confiscate anything...there are quiet a few home videos of both events...secondly they need to be able to study the event themselves so its in their best interests to have multiple copies of videotape regarding the event.

 

[Carter]

Even if it was a plane, why is the government confiscating all this footage like they always do. If anything, the government shows little faith in the ability of it's citizens to comprehend these events.

Thats a pretty solid question.
Maybe it has to do with national security. They don't want to show how incredibly vulnerable our defense system was.

 

[patrickbateman]

man its happened even if it was real what can we do?

 

[cass]

Even if it was a plane, why is the government confiscating all this footage like they always do. If anything, the government shows little faith in the ability of it's citizens to comprehend these events.

Reconstruct the events the best that they can, and for national security. Or because the reptilians told them so.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

No, no, and no. Only one camera recording of the pentagon incident is released thus far. Making a copy of any footage to be distributed is extremely easy. Uncensored information is the least insulting to we as the citizens. I think we can handle footage of a plane hitting a building, and it's not going to give away any militay secrets. I'd think so. So are they hiding something? It's better to raise questions than to not, there has been little talk from the gov about the Pentagon.

 

[Admiral_N8]

If you dont think it was a plane, how do you explain the people on the plane being dead? Are these normal civilians that were proven to have gotten onto the plane all part of the conspiracy too?

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

There are people out there saying, yes. The recordings were fake. The real recordings never went out, the plane was dumped in an ocean or whatnot. If the radar could not understand a boeing flying 10 feet over the ground far from the runway was unusual, they could probably lose a whole plane too.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Most of these conspiracy theorists argue straw man, meaning they take an argument, misrepresent it and then argue for/against that misrepresentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWSqFuCeTlg&search=pentagon

Here is a great example. Notice he starts out by presenting a computer generation as the basis for his argument, not the actual event itself. Then he goes on to find a problem with the Rolls Royce engine, not mentioning that the other company who makes boeing 757, Pratt and Whitney (which is never readressed).

He says you can't have it both ways....however he is arguing with a computer simulation, not the event itself. Events, unlike on computer, do not occur in vaccums. So arguing against a simulation is like arguing with evolution based on the ideal concept of thermodynamics...mixing the ideal with reality based execution of said ideal...in effect a straw man.

 

[patrickbateman]

If you dont think it was a plane, how do you explain the people on the plane being dead? Are these normal civilians that were proven to have gotten onto the plane all part of the conspiracy too?

i dont recall hearing the families of those victims thats the thing that bothers me a lot, do you have any info on the families of those people on the plane?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

i dont recall hearing the families of those victims thats the thing that bothers me a lot, do you have any info on the families of those people on the plane?

yeah
http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/
Every victim here has a tribute page with messages from relatives...its incredibly insulting you suggest these people did not die.

Here are search results on one of the victims
http://www.google.com/custom?q="Tod...8c4629bad031d;&domains=september11victims.com

Ha ha...I found a website that says "is it a conspiracy that nearly all the passengers worked for the government".....

 

[Admiral_N8]

i dont recall hearing the families of those victims thats the thing that bothers me a lot, do you have any info on the families of those people on the plane?

Yes, dont you remember the vigils held at the Pentagon by the families? Or are they all part of the conspiracy too?

haha, conspiracy theories are funny

 

[patrickbateman]

Yes, dont you remember the vigils held at the Pentagon by the families? Or are they all part of the conspiracy too?

haha, conspiracy theories are funny

dude u and i are one the same point man read my post again

 

[patrickbateman]

yeah
http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/
Every victim here has a tribute page with messages from relatives...its incredibly insulting you suggest these people did not die.

Here are search results on one of the victims
http://www.google.com/custom?q="Tod...8c4629bad031d;&domains=september11victims.com

man read my post again i dindt sugeest that these people didnt die we're on the same point man

 

[ShadowBoxing]

man read my post again i dindt sugeest that these people didnt die we're on the same point man

Well the friggin search I gave you gives you stuff FROM THEIR FAMILIES...