Fantasy Highlander Remake

[DarkKnight]

I'm a supporter!

I love most of the Highlander films and series. a few here and there that were no good.

I love Henry as well. #HenryIsMySuperman

I hope Christopher Lambert gets his respect and possibly a cameo. Lambert as Remirez maybe? Just fan boy wishes here but we shall see.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Robert Meyer Burnett has suggested Antonio Banderas as Ramirez.

 

[Holy Slapper]

Robert Meyer Burnett has suggested Antonio Banderas as Ramirez.

Too Spanish.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Gerard Butler for Ramirez

 

[TheVileOne]

FYI,

Remember, Ramirez was originally born in Egypt. He just later adopted the name Ramirez.

Who was played by a Scotsman in the 1985 movie acting against a Frenchman playing a Scotsman born and raised in the Highlands!

 

[TheVileOne]

You know, I wonder that too. I know his Geralt is polarizing but I think he does well as a brooding, deep-voiced badass and I think he might have been able to pull off Batman.

Then again, he’s pretty charming in Enola Holmes and it makes me wonder if his Superman might have been much better if Snyder had him do more than silently mope and punch things.

Batman/Bruce Wayne needs charm too

 

[elgaz]

Connery worked well as Ramirez as he combined humour, maturity and an easy charm. Trying to think of a current actor who does same and not a huge amount in that age range springing to mind - Pierce Brosnan maybe?

 

[TheVileOne]

Connery worked well as Ramirez as he combined humour, maturity and an easy charm. Trying to think of a current actor who does same and not a huge amount in that age range springing to mind - Pierce Brosnan maybe?

I did really like the Connor and Ramirez relationship. Ramirez truly cared for Connor and i believe he likely wanted him to be the last Immortal.

 

[Deck Rickard]

How exactly does aging work with Highlanders? Like, how was Ramirez so much older than Connor if they never age past a certain point?

I’m probably giving it too much thought lol.

 

[lespaul59]

How exactly does aging work with Highlanders? Like, how was Ramirez so much older than Connor if they never age past a certain point?

I’m probably giving it too much thought lol.

I don't remember off the top of my head of it's actually been explained in one of the movies but my guess is Ramirez died at a older age than Connor. If I remember correctly they only become immortal after dying because Connor dies in battle and then comes back to life and is ran off from his village because they think him being alive is the work of the devil.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah, from what I recall, Immortality is only triggered upon your first death. It’s been a minute since I watched the sequels, but I believe it’s even a plot point with a character that she had her immortality triggered against her will, which robbed her of the ability to have children.

 

[Fincher]

If Ramirez is Egyptian, they'll only get in more trouble for casting a white guy. Remember that Gods of Egypt movie?

 

[Teelie]

Yeah, from what I recall, Immortality is only triggered upon your first death. It’s been a minute since I watched the sequels, but I believe it’s even a plot point with a character that she had her immortality triggered against her will, which robbed her of the ability to have children.

It's been a while but I don't think they could ever have children, even before their first death.

 

[TheVileOne]

If Ramirez is Egyptian, they'll only get in more trouble for casting a white guy. Remember that Gods of Egypt movie?

How exactly does aging work with Highlanders? Like, how was Ramirez so much older than Connor if they never age past a certain point?

I’m probably giving it too much thought lol.

It's triggered by a violent death. Or at least that was the explanation in Endgame. So you still age into adulthood and can never know you are immortal.

As for Ramirez's Egyptian heritage, yes. You could get away with things like that in the 1980s. Not in 2021. You couldn't cast a caucasian actor as Ramirez in 2021 UNLESS you ditch the Egyptian backstory, but that's iffy too.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It's been a while but I don't think they could ever have children, even before their first death.

Wasn’t that the crux of Duncan’s conflict with his wife (or lover or whatever she was) in Endgame?

That he killed her on their wedding night so that they could be together forever and she felt that he had stolen her ability to have a family?

 

[Teelie]

It has been a very long time since I saw that movie. Beyond it being a pile of garbage that should not be considered canon (which is true of pretty much every sequel in the movie franchise) I doubt she was ever able to concieve even as a mortal. She may not have known it at the time he first killed her but she would still be bitter even centuries later.

It does make sense too. We don't know how or where immortals come from, but we do know they are always without exception a foundling so having immortals produce offspring would not work.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Maybe a trailer will change my mind, but I really could care less for this and I'm a big fan of the original Highlander. Damn did that franchise go downhill fast though and while I am a fan of Cavill this just seems like a waste of his talent other than him looking great in the action scenes.

I hope he atleast brings some serious personality and presence to the role or they cast a really solid character actor to play the villian who could elevate him in the role.

A Christopher Lambert cameo would be pretty awesome too.

 

[TheVileOne]

I guess it depends on what of those garbage sequels and the TV show you acknowledge or not, lol. From what I recall in Endgame, the implication was if Kate didn't have her "immortality" triggered, she still would've been able to have children.

Everyone should go back and watch the 1986 movie at some point. In terms of direction, it definitely was ahead of the game in its style, especially cinematography and editing tricks. Especially the scene transitions and wipes.

Maybe a trailer will change my mind, but I really could care less for this and I'm a big fan of the original Highlander. Damn did that franchise go downhill fast though and while I am a fan of Cavill this just seems like a waste of his talent other than him looking great in the action scenes.

I hope he atleast brings some serious personality and presence to the role or they cast a really solid character actor to play the villian who could elevate him in the role.

A Christopher Lambert cameo would be pretty awesome too.

Yeah. I think the problem from the beginning is the original movie was never designed to have sequels. The first film ends in a pretty closed-ended manner. Connor won the prize. The Game is over. Connor has been granted all the power and life force of the Immortals, and it's given him the ability to connect to the hearts and minds of other living beings on the planet. It also gives him the ability to grow old and have children again. If he wants to, he can live a life with Brenda and settle down with her.

Think about it. If you are Immortal, yes you live for hundreds maybe thousands of years. But any connections you make are fleeting. Your loved ones grow old and die. For some Immortals, the very state of immortality could very well be a curse for them. So the prize itself is being granted mortality, being able to have children again, share your life with a loved one. So that as a "prize" makes sense.

Like that's it. The movie is pretty much THE END of the story. So basically in Highlander 2 they suddenly have to rewrite and go back on all of that.

 

[Teelie]

Pretty sure even the first movie implies immortals are sterile. Her immortality was always going to doom her to the same fate as every other immortal. She was never destined to have children or grow old. She was angry with Duncan for killing her but whether he did it or someone else did, she was never going to have children and probably not grow much older than she was.

We have never seen an immortal who was over 60 (Connery was 56 when he played Ramirez) and we have only seen one child that I can remember, from the television series. Every other immortal was somewhere between early 20's and their mid 50's and never one who mentioned having had children before or after their immortality.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

FYI,

Remember, Ramirez was originally born in Egypt. He just later adopted the name Ramirez.

Who was played by a Scotsman in the 1985 movie acting against a Frenchman playing a Scotsman born and raised in the Highlands!

I always got the sense that Ramirez is just pulling a Joker with these conflicting origin stories, specifically as the character's portrayed in TDK. There's a clear flippancy in his demeanor. He's essentially having a bit of fun at Connor's expense.

 

[Teelie]

It could also be he genuinely does not remember his true origins being so old and probably changed his past as it suited him at the time he was telling it. After a few centuries the Scotsman who claimed he was from Egypt but had a Spanish name and has traveled all over Europe, Africa and Asia (where else would he get a Japanese katana?) has got quite the past.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I don't remember off the top of my head of it's actually been explained in one of the movies but my guess is Ramirez died at a older age than Connor. If I remember correctly they only become immortal after dying because Connor dies in battle and then comes back to life and is ran off from his village because they think him being alive is the work of the devil.

Yeah, from what I recall, Immortality is only triggered upon your first death. It’s been a minute since I watched the sequels, but I believe it’s even a plot point with a character that she had her immortality triggered against her will, which robbed her of the ability to have children.

In that case then, if an immortal lived a normal life and never got hunted down, could they die of old age? Or would that trigger a rebirth of some sort?

 

[TheVileOne]

I always got the sense that Ramirez is just pulling a Joker with these conflicting origin stories, specifically as the character's portrayed in TDK. There's a clear flippancy in his demeanor. He's essentially having a bit of fun at Connor's expense.

No he was legitimately born in Egypt. Ramirez is not his birth name.

It could also be he genuinely does not remember his true origins being so old and probably changed his past as it suited him at the time he was telling it. After a few centuries the Scotsman who claimed he was from Egypt but had a Spanish name and has traveled all over Europe, Africa and Asia (where else would he get a Japanese katana?) has got quite the past.

He's not senile. He remembers his last wife from like a 1000 years earlier, Shakiko. Her father gave him that unique sword made by a method that was like way ahead of its time.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

No he was legitimately born in Egypt. Ramirez is not his birth name.

Well, as we're never actually shown flashbacks to Ramirez's supposed early days in Egypt, all we really have to go on is his word. And that's called into question when he initially describes himself as a Spaniard, then later reinvents himself as an Egyptian. Connor himself draws attention to the inconsistency, which gives Ramirez an opportunity to explain himself. But does he take it? Nope. I mean, how easy would it have been to say you were first discovered in Egypt (since immortals are foundlings and know very little of their birth), then opted to assume a Spanish identity for whatever reason? Not terribly difficult. Instead, he pretty much gaslights Connor, making it seem like he's dense for missing details that were never shared. lol

Now, just to be clear, I'm not ruling out the possibility that he is what he says he is, but there's definitely sufficient reason to suspect him of being dubious here. And again, that he chooses to address Connor's concerns in a rather flippant manner is pretty damn telling to me.

I know there are comics and other literary works that have since attempted to clarify and flesh out his origins, but that stuff, along with the movie sequels which go off in an entirely different direction, is pretty extraneous to me.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well, as we're never actually shown flashbacks to Ramirez's supposed early days in Egypt, all we really have to go on is his word. And that's called into question when he initially describes himself as a Spaniard, then later reinvents himself as an Egyptian. Connor himself draws attention to the inconsistency, which gives Ramirez an opportunity to explain himself. But does he take it? Nope. I mean, how easy would it have been to say you were first discovered in Egypt (since immortals are foundlings and know very little of their birth), then opted to assume a Spanish identity for whatever reason? Not terribly difficult. Instead, he pretty much gaslights Connor, making it seem like he's dense for missing details that were never shared. lol

Ramirez was an honorable man. He took Connor under his wing and attempted to protect Connor's wife. Ramirez never gave us any reason to doubt his word. So why are we doubting his word?

Ramirez could've easily killed Connor and taken his Quickening lifeforce. Instead he formed a bond with Connor and taught him how to survive for centuries because he didn't want Kurgan to be the final immortal believing it would be the end of mankind.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not ruling out the possibility that he is what he says he is, but there's definitely sufficient reason to suspect him of being dubious here. And again, that he chooses to address Connor's concerns in a rather flippant manner is pretty damn telling to me.

I know there are comics and other literary works that have since attempted to clarify and flesh out his origins, but that stuff, along with the movie sequels which go off in an entirely different direction, is pretty extraneous to me.

There's virtually none.