History Channel's 'Vikings'

[chamber-music]

Ragnar didn't stop believing in the Norse gods. Ragnar thought he was dying and just wanted to see his friend again. Ragnar believed the only way they would be reunited is through his conversion.

Even Aslaug did not deny the missionary his Christ god existed, she just denied his statement he was the only god and trumped all the norse gods.

Rollo treated the whole baptism as a joke. Floki and Bjorn seem to be the most anti-Christian.

 

[Loki882]

Plus Ragnar never DENIES the possibility that the "Christ god" exists. I think that he just gets annoyed by Christians claiming that THEIR GOD is the only one that exists/matters, like a lot of people would (including me honestly).

 

[Golgo-13]

The execution scene with the hair had me lol!

 

[Loki882]

The Gods probably found it amusing as well. I can imagine them welcoming him into Vahalla with bellowing laughter and LOTS of drink.

 

[James]

Definitely. He was the only to keep fighting while everyone else hightailed it.

 

[Evelisse]

Good stuff

 

[James]

When did you guys figure it out?

For me it was when they first showed Ragnar's coffin, but I'd been suspicious ever since the opening when they repeated the Seer's line about the dead conquering Paris. If they hadn't of replayed that line I'm not sure I'd have figured it out when I did, but when they showed the casket I thought "Ohh you sneaky bugger!".

I hope Rollo doesn't go against Ragnar again, although it's looking likely. He tried that once before it didn't work out. There will be no forgiveness this time. Sometimes I dislike Rollo even more than Floki, at least Floki's open and honest about his agenda.

 

[Evelisse]

besides having an idea about his story, the fact that it happened so early in the episode for such an event to happen.

heh, Ragnar, it's like even if you are innocent of anything, his eyes burn a whole right through you

 

[zeroapoc]

Good episode. They went back to faking out the audience during a season finale. But no big deal.

 

[Siby]

Good finale. I totally saw through the ruse of Ragnar converting and his death. That's just how he operates so none of it was a surprise for me.

Once again the best things were the development of Bjorn and Rollo. I didn't quite understand the point of the S&M scene. It didn't seem to fit in anywhere. That woman was hot though.

What did you guys make of Ragnar telling Floki about killing Athelstan? Was that a threat?

The preview for next season looked great with Bjorn fighting a bear. I wonder what that is all about.

 

[X Knight]

Good finale. I totally saw through the ruse of Ragnar converting and his death. That's just how he operates so none of it was a surprise for me.

Once again the best things were the development of Bjorn and Rollo. I didn't quite understand the point of the S&M scene. It didn't seem to fit in anywhere. That woman was hot though.

What did you guys make of Ragnar telling Floki about killing Athelstan? Was that a threat?

The preview for next season looked great with Bjorn fighting a bear. I wonder what that is all about.

I think the S&M scene served to show that appearances can be deceiving and you can't always judge people.

That Count Odo guy seemed to be a good, honorable man who defended the city but also hoped for Gisla's affection.

However, the S&M scene showed that he was actually a sexual sadist who wanted to do that stuff to the princess. So he wasn't as nice a guy as once believed.

Which is ironic, since Gisla protests her arranged marriage to Rollo and calls him a pagan Beast.

Well, Odo showed that he himself is a beast in secret. at least Rollo doesn't try to hide his nature.

 

[Loki882]

The marketing confirmed the fake-out to me. The kept alluding to Ragnar's death in all of the promos, which made me believe that it was a ruse as they wouldn't be that obviously spoilery about it.

 

[squeekness]

As soon as I saw Loki's finished boat I knew what was afoot!

 

[S. Grundy]

It was obvious from the start, mostly because it's not how the supposed historical Ragnar died, and I know the show has taken huge liberties with the history and mythology. But Ragnar's death I feel won't be changed, since the show went out it's way to show Alle and his snake pit in season 1.

Also, the show got renewed, they aren't gonna get rid of Fimmel.

 

[BestGirl]

^Precisely.

As far as the torture scene goes, I suspect there will be some payoff next season. The second that black-haired girl (another one!) spoke to Odo, I knew she was going to be important going forward.

The finale was just okay, but I can handle that, since the previous two episodes were so epic. My favorite part came after Gisla insulted Rollo, and he, uncomprehending, beamed and said "je vous salut"* so proudly.

*I think that's what he said. I don't know French.

 

[chamber-music]

I knew exactly what Ragnar was going to do as soon as Count Odo said he could be brought into Paris. Ragnar is cunning as a fox.

Loved seeing Rollo finally become the first Duke Of Normandy!

The princess will fall for Rollo I imagine.

50 Shades of Odo was weird. Did not expect Odo to be a sexual sadist.

I loved Ragnar's 'I win'

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Another great episode and fine final.
Even if I knew about the historical ( or not ) death by snake pit I thought he was really dead, quick editing what not, the show is known for it and, bam in the coffin. Procession scene, me thinking, will he pull a Ragnar maneuver on this one ? He did apologize to Athlestan for what he will do right .. and of course he did

The funniest part for me : I did catch some of the Princess lines ( in "French" ) to Rollo, it made me laugh.
Experts : Fille de grand lignage suis non folle pute garçonnière !
"Unintelligible" Mon pucelage par puterie livrée "unintelligible" gosse vilain.
And Rollo : Je vous salue ( Hello ) with the wink after her river of insults, awesome !

Now, let me jump to my cryotube for next season in 2016

Edit : ha yes almost forgot, they made Odo a pervert..really ? A lame King wasn't enough and they had to make the only competent "French" a pervert

 

[James]

Woaaaah woah woah pretty people, just because Odo likes a little S&M in his spare time doesn't make him a bad dude. That was between two consenting adults. It helped to highlight the 'beast' in comparison with the alleged animal that Rollo is, as X Knight pointed out -but being kinky does not automatically make a person evil. Now if Odo had forced the girl in there, sure. But she agreed to it and he even told her he'd stop if she said to. As far as we know, Odo's still a morally upstanding fellow.

He did apologize to Athlestan for what he will do right .. and of course he did

I hadn't thought of that! I always thought it was odd that Ragnar would apologize in advance for killing people or sacking Paris, something he's done for years with no apology (especially seeings as it was Athelstan who put on Ragnar on the path to Paris). But the apology was for taking advantage of Athelstan's religion! Good thinking Xavier.

 

[Loki882]

I think that it's more the whole "he wanted to do this to the princess" thing that's creeping people out. It sounds sinister.

 

[Siby]

The explanations you guys gave about Odo now makes perfect sense as to why they showed us that aspect of his character and a behind the scenes look into that society.

Gisla and the others think of themselves as some great "pure" people and insult the vikings as being lower than animals but we see that the Franks are just dolled up *****ebags.

No offense to any of French people here. I'm strictly speaking within the context of the show.

 

[Golgo-13]

Good finale. Yeah, the whipping scene seemed to just be placed there for the sake of it - unless the women is somehow important next season.

I like the Trojan horse move.

 

[squeekness]

I thought maybe the s and m scenes were just an attempt to sex up the show for those who watch for such things. I'm not sure what the point of knowing what that guys sex life is, other than to show how the princess might have dodged a bullet. Rollo wouldn't do that sort of thing to her.

 

[Loki882]

Well it's not as if Rollo's track record with women is stellar. And lets not pretend that it is.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

The explanations you guys gave about Odo now makes perfect sense as to why they showed us that aspect of his character and a behind the scenes look into that society.

Gisla and the others think of themselves as some great "pure" people and insult the vikings as being lower than animals but we see that the Franks are just dolled up *****ebags.

No offense to any of French people here. I'm strictly speaking within the context of the show.

Good point yes but the "*****ebag" part was already covered by the King characterization, not need to add kinky stuff. We already saw that the Franks are as brutal as the Vikings, only with a nicer dressing ( hot oil, spiked barrel and crossbow ).
It only annoys me because I'm French, my point of view is biased but I saw the same thing in The Musketeers, lame King, able Queen/Princess, you Americans really like our noble women
Note : I don't break a nerve on the matter, no Twitter outrage or Facebook indignation here

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I hadn't thought of that! I always thought it was odd that Ragnar would apologize in advance for killing people or sacking Paris, something he's done for years with no apology (especially seeings as it was Athelstan who put on Ragnar on the path to Paris). But the apology was for taking advantage of Athelstan's religion! Good thinking Xavier.

Thank you, I put some thought on that which I usually don't.
Ragnar utter respect and friendship/love for Athlestan, his Baptism seeming legit, the fact that we know that Ragnar is also a cunning bastard, it had to be a powerful reason for the apology.
It's random but I will quote The Dark Knight Returns ( comic book ) : He ( Ragnar ) is just too big.