Superman Returns How about Alex Ross?

[Mr. Socko]

Alex Ross is one of many great arists that truly understand what Superman is all about. If Bryan Singer knew better, he'd have consulted Alex and implemented his ideas. Here we have one person who has done nothing but draw and paint Superman for his entire life, co-authored an awesome elseworlds comic (Kingdom Come), did the awesome Peace On Earth (which could've been nicely implemented into the film), and has captured a very particular Superman likeness unmatched by damn near every other artist to date....

...and in the other corner you have some guy who likes the Richard Donner films a whole lot.

For the record, in a Wizard magazine some time back, Alex gave his views on the comic's films out at the time. He said Superman's suit in Superman Returns was really bad.

And I agree with him.

Everything this man has said is true.

 

[Gogo Bananas]

Justice rocks - best Superman portrayal in years.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

True, but he's also a big Spider-man fan, yet for some reason he felt that the costume should have been absolutely butchered for the movie. I have no problems with the way he illustrates Superman, or any other character. I'm a fan of his work, and I'm not about to argue that he's not one of the most talented artists to ever work in the comics industry. But that that doesn't mean that his rambling about comic book movies should be given anymore credit than any other fan.

Well, he's a bigger Superman and Batman fan though. They've shown the guy's collection of collectibles......he's got great life size renditions of HIS Batman and Superman. Tons of Superman stuff too.

I'm not saying his opinion means more....but, I don't think it should immediately be dismissed b/c WE don't like it. That's all I'm saying.

And, so what? He didn't like the suit? Do you blame him? He's been drawing a different suit his entire career......so, I don't blame him. Alot of people didn't like the suit.....at first. It grew on me, though.

 

[Nightwing1977]

to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th posters...if you don't like or respect ARoss' opinions on Superman Returns, as you said...you simply don't respect the character as well...

the reason ?

Lobster Charlie couldn't have said it clearer...

Alex Ross respect the mythos of Superman...he knows it shouldn't be played with...as did your homeboy BSinger...

LMAO!! What a sad, close mind you have. If Alex Ross respect the mythos of Superman, so does Singer. And nice to see Ross is your homeboy too.

And sometime Ross can be a *****ebag. He doesn't respect some people's views. He think what he does is the right vision. Especially Superman. His vision don't mean it the true one. There aren't any true vision in Superman. Different people have different visions of Superman. I mean some draw him younger looking, bigger or smaller, etc. Some of Ross's arts of Superman make him look old, fat, & drawing the "S" way too large that it's distracting.

 

[Billy Batson]

Alex Ross & Bruce W. TimmRULES!
Next to Joe Shuster & Jerry Siegel!

 

[Billy Batson]

drawing the "S" way too large that it's distracting.

It's a thing of Beauty look at it!
So big, so strong, so SUPER!

 

[Razorbat]

Friend of mine saw Ross coming out of the theater after seeing it. He asked him (while making the gesture) if he felt the movie was "thumbs up or thumbs down," and Ross replied with a "meh" face and his thumb held out sideways.

My friend loved it though.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'll look around and see if he's got a blog. I know Jim Lee will post a SR review soon himself.

 

[Desk]

Justice rocks - best Superman portrayal in years.

Very true - a great series that every Superman fan should be reading!

 

[Darkred]

If perople dont like Ross that up to them. The problem with Ross is that he believes he is the only person to have done Superman right thus, only his Superman is correct.

He does the same thing with almost every character he has taken on. Its either his 'perfect' version or nothing.

Singer has a perfect version of Superman too which is what we get in the film. No comiicbook or film has to conform to this silly notion that there is an ideal version odf a character.

Everybody sees the same character in a different way.

I hope he didn't actually say that because thats not true. His art is just his vision of superman. Its quite an arrogant thing to say and a bit disrespectful to other artists of superman today.

 

[eat aliens]

Well, he's a bigger Superman and Batman fan though. They've shown the guy's collection of collectibles......he's got great life size renditions of HIS Batman and Superman. Tons of Superman stuff too.

I'm not saying his opinion means more....but, I don't think it should immediately be dismissed b/c WE don't like it. That's all I'm saying.

And, so what? He didn't like the suit? Do you blame him? He's been drawing a different suit his entire career......so, I don't blame him. Alot of people didn't like the suit.....at first. It grew on me, though.

Fair enough...I dont dismiss Ross's opinions that I happen to disagree with, but I dont give them any more merit than the everyday fan. But like someone said, he's the Charles Barkley of comics....he really likes to run his mouth.

And I guess I will never get the outrage over the Supes suit. It's different from the traditional look, but still had no real surprises. At least, not for me.

 

[Kal-El Reeve]

If perople dont like Ross that up to them. The problem with Ross is that he believes he is the only person to have done Superman right thus, only his Superman is correct.

He does the same thing with almost every character he has taken on. Its either his 'perfect' version or nothing.

Singer has a perfect version of Superman too which is what we get in the film. No comiicbook or film has to conform to this silly notion that there is an ideal version odf a character.

Everybody sees the same character in a different way.

I can never see Ross' version of the Action Ace as the definitive. If you have to go definitive. It would have to be the Siegel and Shuster version of the character. It was their dream come true.

The Super Friends is not the Definitive version. Which is what he believes.

I remember hearing him arguing over Mxyzptlk with the Animated series staff.

 

[Carter]

Every time Ross opens his mouth I want to punch him in the head.
But at least he can draw.

 

[Tony Stark]

Does anybody know if Alex Ross expressed an opinion on this film yet? Just curious...because he hated the suit when the first image was released.

After the way Ross bashed Spider-man, after Rami personally asked him to do the artwork for the opening sequence (and got paid alot for it), I don't value his opinion on anything.

I don't care if he didn't like Spider-man 2, but there's this little thing called "class", and he doesn't have it.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Fair enough...I dont dismiss Ross's opinions that I happen to disagree with, but I dont give them any more merit than the everyday fan. But like someone said, he's the Charles Barkley of comics....he really likes to run his mouth.

And I guess I will never get the outrage over the Supes suit. It's different from the traditional look, but still had no real surprises. At least, not for me.

Well, really.....how does he "run" his mouth? They asked him that stuff in an interview, and he answered it...didn't he? It's not like he has major media outlets waiting for him on a whim, where he constantly talks. I think it's hard to say he's a big mouth.

I can understand how you feel about his opinions, really. If I felt that way about someone's opinons, and felt that that person didn't get the character (in this case, perhaps Spidey) then his opinions would weigh less than someone else. So, I totally agree with you on that front.

As for the costume......when it first was revealed, it was a surprise. Neckline, color, symbol, material.....I don't know what people wanted, but many people needed to grow on the costume, and they did.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

After the way Ross bashed Spider-man, after Rami personally asked him to do the artwork for the opening sequence (and got paid alot for it), I don't value his opinion on anything.

How much did he get paid?

Far as I know, he donated the money for the aution on the original pieces.

I don't care if he didn't like Spider-man 2, but there's this little thing called "class", and he doesn't have it.

how's that?

 

[Eros]

doesn't alex Ross hate all post-crisis heroes or something like that? I heard he refused to draw Kyler Rayner at on point[only wanting to draw the classic characters]. from a guy that was born in 1970 [generation X] long after the charatcers he draws were created, his ego seems to be surpriseing. Im a fan of his art though, but i hope those rumours are not true.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Ego?

Listen, he's an artist......if he doesn't want to draw Ryner.....then he doesn't have to. That's the good thing about being ontop in the Biz.

 

[Eros]

Ego?

Listen, he's an artist......if he doesn't want to draw Ryner.....then he doesn't have to. That's the good thing about being ontop in the Biz.

well if its his job to draw a certain character[one that he might dislike for personal reasons] one would assume he would be professional about it. I mean you have a job, but thier are some things you dun like to do but have to do it anyway.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

No, not if your one of the Top Dogs. That the good thing about being one, you don't have do things you don't want to.

He's an artist, that's a little bit different than most other jobs.....if your not into it, chances are the work will reflect it. He probably wanted to avoid making some half ass work that way.

 

[DogofKrypton]

Juding on his designs he made for Spider-man (which were CRAP) I'm glad he had no say in Superman's costume or anything else about the movie. The man should just stick to what he's good at and leave everything else to the pros.

This is assuming, wrongly, that the studio had NO say in the designs.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Alex Ross>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BSinger

I'd love to see Ross be a producer for a Superman movie.

 

[LostSon88]

Some of Ross's arts of Superman make him look old, fat, & drawing the "S" way too large that it's distracting.

Yep. I mean Ross is an amazing artist no doubt, but I personally don't like his interpretation of Superman...or Batman for that matter.

 

[Milkman95]

No thanks, let him keep drawing overweight men in tights. I want him nowhere near a film.

 

[Motown Marvel]

a lot of people b!tcH about ross saying how he has a frame of mind that the only right way to do these heroes is his way....but you know what? ross konws and understands these characters better than just about anyone else in the industry. and his take on the characters usually IS the right way. i mean, if you look at his works involving superman (kingdom come, peace on earth, justice), all of which he had a hand in plotting the story and character arcs, they're near perfect. they are very definitive takes on the characters.