Superman Returns How about Alex Ross?

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I think people just hate how strongly he feels about it all.

 

[Motown Marvel]

I think people just hate how strongly he feels about it all.

he shouldnt feel strongly about what he believes in?

 

[WTFwuzThT]

I think that's one of the problems these days. Being passionate about something means you're an ass to weak minded people.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Exactly my point. He SHOULD, people just don't like it.

I think in a way, it's sort of like how a celebrity says something political, and people just laugh or hate them for they're views. It's like they forget that the person is a goddamn human being, with thoughts and ****.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Exactly my point. He SHOULD, people just don't like it.

I think in a way, it's sort of like how a celebrity says something political, and people just laugh or hate them for they're views. It's like they forget that the person is a goddamn human being, with thoughts and ****.

i dont think its even that at all. i think its just that some people dont like his art (which i cant even comprehend, because he's a genius artist), so they feel they must degrade him on every level, including what he says. i'd like someone to show me, in regards to his take on supermans character, where has alex ross ever been wrong.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

I don't like how hulking, and overly muscular his characters look...or how old Batman and Superman look, but besides that, his imagery is top notch. I heard he lives out here in the suburbs of Chicago?

 

[Motown Marvel]

I heard he lives out here in the suburbs of Chicago?

wilmington, illinois...i do believe.

 

[Retroman]

Remember this?

EXCLUSIVE: Alex Ross Draws Tom Welling as Superman!
Source: Alex Ross Art April 16, 2004

One of the most-discussed topics on the SHH! Superman message boards has been whether or not The WB's Smallville star Tom Welling should play Superman in the new Warner Bros. big screen adaptation.

Back in December, Welling said that he had been approached about the lead role when director Brett Ratner was still on board the project. "I actually went to Brett's house in Los Angeles and we sat down and talked about it a little bit, both knowing that scheduling would always be an issue," Welling said. "Basically, if that movie were to happen, the show would pretty much have to go away, and I don't think that's what anybody wants."

Now, artist Alex Ross has provided Superhero Hype! with an exclusive look at two drawings he did for the possible film, were Welling to play the role. The drawings were not done for the studio, Alex did these on his own to see what Welling might look like. You can view the drawings below, and also be sure to stay tuned to AlexRossArt.com for the latest on his projects.

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=1205

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Dude's got a kick ass looking house. ****ing expenisve looking too, they showed it on a CN special clip. Tons of collectibles.

My ONLY problem with Ross, he sometimes draws his heroes TOO realistically. I mean, there's a reason why a REAL Batman in that outfit would look like a doofus, and we KINDA see how with his art. Those costumes, really.....they're not great when they look so real. His art is awesome though.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Remember this?


Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=1205

what about it?

 

[Retroman]

^^Just saying that Ross was a big supporter of Welling like Reeve was before Routh landed the role.

 

[PSU442]

I agree with you....he's like the Charles Barkely of the comic book realm.

haha... awesome quote!

 

[RakuMon]

^^Just saying that Ross was a big supporter of Welling like Reeve was before Routh landed the role.

Not for nothing, but that's probably another reason a lot of folks don't like Ross' opinions.

 

[Eteric]

Ross is a great artist, but I don't think he'd go far beyond being "meh" in writing a story for these characters.

He can make cool visuals, but if I could draw I could come up with some also.

 

[Retroman]

Singer and co are fans of Ross and vice versa.

UGO: I was lucky enough to go to the set of Superman in Australia. They had artwork everywhere in the offices that looked enough like your artwork that the other journalists were like, "Is Alex Ross doing this?" But obviously you're not.

ALEX: They did take images from some of my books and rework them into different compositions. The designer of the movie told me that they're going to show some of how they did that in one of the art books next year. I've been quoted as being inspiration for the film, but I was never invited to be part of the project. I have had absolutely no hand in what they are doing. So for me, I didn't understand what they meant by it, but I guess I influenced some of the compositions, some of the grandiosity of how Superman is viewed, but I'm much more of a nuts and bolts guy who says, "Where's the guy with the big body?"

UGO: Would you have been interested in doing something with it?

ALEX: Oh absolutely. I desperately wanted to get a hold of Bryan Singer when I heard he was given the job, but I didn't get contacted by anyone until they were already well underway.

Source: http://www.ugo.com/channels/comics/features/alexross/default_5.asp


SuicideGirls > Interviews > Bryan Singer

DRE:What is your favorite era in the Superman comics?

BS:I like a lot of artists' interpretations of Superman, but my personal favorite is Alex Ross. It's very mythic. He humanizes them but also makes them into these paintings.

Source: http://suicidegirls.com/interviews/Bryan+Singer+director+of+Superman+Returns/

Q: Do you think that's the best era in Superman history, in terms of stories and the arcs?

Singer: Um, no, I think it's just one era and my personal favorite, well I like a lot of artists interpretations of Superman, and also Alex Ross - very mythic- he humanizes but yet makes them into these paintings. But no, I think it's just one y'know and if you look at it [the early 40's stories] some of it is just quick and cheap.

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4197

Q: What is it that appeals to you about Alex Ross' paintings?
Dyas: I think he just really, in my mind... there's something very, very nice about the way he draws. There's something very realistic about the way he draws. I think the images and also the subject matters that he deals with, with this particular character, really appeal to Bryan and his team because they're a little bit more set in reality, and there's also a sense that he's dealing with real issues.

Q: Has Alex been involved in any capacity?
Dyas: No, he hasn't. I know Bryan's spoken to him several times. I would love to speak to him, so if any of you know him, please....

Q: He's really not very hard to get a hold of.
Q2: I'll put you in touch with him.

(laughter)

Dyas: But it was a very close production. There wasn't really a desire to get too many people from the outside involved. Bryan wanted to keep the production pretty tightly closed, and not too many people were involved outside of his core team.

Q: Is that his art that's scanned into Photoshop, though?
Dyas: No. These are actually various illustrators and people we've had on the production in various stages, basically producing ideas.

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4251

 

[huskerwebhead]

He's a great artist, but he's got an ego the size of the moon and usually comes across pretty arrogant. His opinion holds no more water than any other critic/fan in my mind....in some cases less.

 

[thechubbysaint]

Anybody know other artists' views? Tim Sale? Jim Lee? Some of the classic Supe artists.

 

[Superman79]

He's a great artist, but he's got an ego the size of the moon and usually comes across pretty arrogant. His opinion holds no more water than any other critic/fan in my mind....in some cases less.

Are we talking about Alex Ross or Barry Bonds?

 

[Lobster Charlie]

Actually his opinions DO hold a bit more water than say, a fan on this board. His opinions shape his actions, and part of what he does is define what our favorite characters look like. By him doing what he does, he has influence over millions of people.

Regardless, I don't like his Batman design one bit! But I love how his heroes look very adult. His Superman kicks all kinds of ass, his Wonder Woman is fantastic, and I'm very fond of his Green Lantern. I think he's an awesome artist, and I can't imagine the comics world without him.

If he has an ego, he earned it. He does all this crap for us, anyway.

 

[DavidTyler]

uh, guys, i'm a big Ross fan myself, but do try to give credit where credit is due.

Ross only co-authored KC, and most of what he contributed was the artwork. the writing was done mostly by Mark Waid.

Waid is a great writer, and he mostly nailed Supes and Bats, but he missed Wonder Woman by a wide side of the barn.

Steel, you give Waid too much credit for Kingdom Come. It was mostly Ross and not Waid. Waid himself said this at a convention that he attended right after KC came out. People kept asking him about different things that happened in the book as well as certain concepts and he just kept saying 'That was Alex's.'

Waid wrote dialogue. That's really what his main writing talent is: wiriting believable dialogue. He's not a good conceptualist at all. Birthright minus the pretty artwork is not all that great. What he did with Luthor was probably the high point of that book. In fact, Dan Didio has stated that Birthright is being removed from continuity and a combination of Silver Age and Man Of Steel will be the new continuity.

Saying Alex co-wrote KC is a misconception. Actually, Alex conceived and plotted the book while Mark dialogued it. So, Kingdom Come is actually 75% Ross and 25% Waid.

I wouldn't trust Waid on his opinions of Superman in general. He's one of those who thinks it was a shame to power down Superman even though it created more story potential. Face it, Superman with the ability to juggle planets wouldn't have any adversaries that could cause him any dramatic problems. That was the problem with the Silver Age version of the character. His stories got boring because he had no real challenges.

Many times DC tried to power Supes down toward the end of the Silver Age and every time someone like Waid would come along and power him back up.

 

[Superman79]

In fact, Dan Didio has stated that Birthright is being removed from continuity and a combination of Silver Age and Man Of Steel will be the new continuity.

So will they be releasing a new origin story? Or do we just piece it together ourselves? That and tell me we at least keep the Birthright origin for the \S/...I hated the whole "Jon Kent makes it up" idea.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Ross is a great artist, but I don't think he'd go far beyond being "meh" in writing a story for these characters.

He can make cool visuals, but if I could draw I could come up with some also.

actually, as i stated before, looking at all the books he's done that include superman (kingdom come, peace on earth, and justice) he was VERY heavily invloved with plotting the story and character arcs. kingdom come was all him. not to diminish waids involvement, but waid pretty much just wrote alex's story.

 

[AgentPat]

Not for nothing, but that's probably another reason a lot of folks don't like Ross' opinions.

But it was a very close production. There wasn't really a desire to get too many people from the outside involved. Bryan wanted to keep the production pretty tightly closed, and not too many people were involved outside of his core team.

The hell? SR was an INSANE ~$200M dollar production that had to employ hundreds if not thousands of people on at least two separate continents. Ross says he was never contacted by the SR folks but Dyas says Singer spoke to Ross on a few occasions. In the words of Henry Lee, something not right here. Quite obviously, we're not hearing the whole story -- and given the budget, I doubt it was a money issue.

 

[huskerwebhead]

Actually his opinions DO hold a bit more water than say, a fan on this board.

Not to me it doesn't.

If he has an ego, he earned it.

Perhaps, but when he starts telling me that I'm stupid for liking a specific movie then he's overstepped the line to condesending. That tells me his ego has grown to big.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Actually his opinions DO hold a bit more water than say, a fan on this board. His opinions shape his actions, and part of what he does is define what our favorite characters look like. By him doing what he does, he has influence over millions of people..

Maybe, but that doesn't mean his opinion is right or wrong (or any closer to being so) compared to the fans. No matter how great or important or popular someone is, they can still be a jackass in real life and we still can call them out on it.

For example, I think Jamie Foxx is very talented as an actor, but he's an egocentric jerk.