Superman Returns How Do You Feel About Singer NOW Thread

[DIRECTOR]

but, i don't think we will see the beginnings, which really sucks in my opinion. How can we love their relationship if we didn't see it from the beginning, especially with new cast members

 

[The Sage]

but, i don't think we will see the beginnings, which really sucks in my opinion. How can we love their relationship if we didn't see it from the beginning, especially with new cast members

Did we love the relationship between Bruce and Alfred in Batman 1989? I'm sure we did, and we didn't see the beginnings of it. We didn't see Alfred nurturing Bruce as a child, did we? Did we need to see the beginnings of the Murdock/Foggy friendship to enjoy it? Do we need to see the beginning of the relationship between Cyclops and Professor X to enjoy their father-son bond? Did we see the beginning of the relationship between Peter Parker and Uncle Ben to know they were close? Did we need to see the beginning of the Harry Osborn/Norman Osborn relationship to know they were close? Did we need to see the origin of Wolverine in order to enjoy him? Did we need to see Bond's origin to enjoy him? How about the first interaction between Bond and Q? Or Moneypenny? Did we have to see Bond's first ever mission to know he was that damn good?

 

[krisboyuk]

Sage.

Plus the origin has already been done, and it was perfect. Why waste time trying to top something that cannot be topped?

 

[DIRECTOR]

Did we love the relationship between Bruce and Alfred in Batman 1989? I'm sure we did, and we didn't see the beginnings of it. We didn't see Alfred nurturing Bruce as a child, did we? Did we need to see the beginnings of the Murdock/Foggy friendship to enjoy it? Do we need to see the beginning of the relationship between Cyclops and Professor X to enjoy their father-son bond? Did we see the beginning of the relationship between Peter Parker and Uncle Ben to know they were close? Did we need to see the beginning of the Harry Osborn/Norman Osborn relationship to know they were close? Did we need to see the origin of Wolverine in order to enjoy him? Did we need to see Bond's origin to enjoy him? How about the first interaction between Bond and Q? Or Moneypenny? Did we have to see Bond's first ever mission to know he was that damn good?

how can u compare their relationships to an epic love story between Lois and Clark. Are we going to love Bruce and Alfred beginning relationship in Batman Begins more, HHHEEELLL YEEESSS

 

[The Sage]

how can u compare their relationships to an epic love story between Lois and Clark. Are we going to love Bruce and Alfred beginning relationship in Batman Begins more, HHHEEELLL YEEESSS

That's not what I said. Did you love the Bruce and Alfred relationship in Batman 89? Yes or no?

 

[DIRECTOR]

yes, but that is totally different between two lovers like Clark and Lois. And ur comapring Cyclops and Prof. X to Clark/Lois???????

 

[The Sage]

yes, but that is totally different between two lovers like Clark and Lois. And ur comapring Cyclops and Prof. X to Clark/Lois???????

I was referencing relationships that you didn't need to see the beginning of to know they cared about each other.

And how is it different?

Also, did we need to see the beginning of the relationship between Cyclops and Jean Grey to know they were in love? Did we need to see their first date?

 

[DIRECTOR]

u want me to bother in answering that question??? There are some relationships in which u must see the beginning of to appreciate their current relationship

 

[green]

They're going to have to reestablish their relationship.

CK/Superman re-establish relationship with Lois.
Superman re-establish his "super"ioriety over Luthor
Clark Kent re-establish his working relationships at the Planet.
Superman re-establish his trust with the people of the world....

That's a lot of re's....kinda sounds like a re-start.

 

[Sverdlovski]

Superman changes his costumes in a phone booth, STM didn't need to explain that, but when Clark looked at that 'modern' phonebooth in the movie, everybody got the joke. I guess it's the same thing with this movie, people know who Superman is, he flies etc, same thing with CK and Lois... I think...

 

[C. Lee]

u want me to bother in answering that question??? There are some relationships in which u must see the beginning of to appreciate their current relationship

Knowing the beginning may help you to "understand" the relationship...but it doesn't have to keep you from appreciating it.

 

[Sverdlovski]

CK/Superman re-establish relationship with Lois.
Superman re-establish his "super"ioriety over Luthor
Clark Kent re-establish his working relationships at the Planet.
Superman re-establish his trust with the people of the world....

That's a lot of re's....kinda sounds like a re-start.

IMO it is a re-start, but will not renegate the Reeve's movies that were good...

 

[The Sage]

u want me to bother in answering that question??? There are some relationships in which u must see the beginning of to appreciate their current relationship

If you need to see the beginning of the relationship to appreciate it, then that means the relationship must not be worthwhile. I didn't need to see the beginning of the relationship between Bruce and Alfred in Batman 89 to appreciate it, I didn't need to see the beginning of the relationship of Cyclops and Jean to appreciate it, and I'm sure if I met you and your girlfriend, I wouldn't need to see the beginning of it to know you and your girl have chemistry and y'all are a sweet couple.

 

[IT is Batgirl]

u want me to bother in answering that question??? There are some relationships in which u must see the beginning of to appreciate their current relationship

I don't think you realize that SR is a back-to-basics Superman. Singer knows that we haven't seen Superman on the screen in a long time. So what has he done? He's created a film where an established Superman has to reestablish his relationships with the people of Metropolis. In this instance, SR is like an origin. It's almost like he's meeting these Metropolitans for the first time. You see, 6 years is a long time. People change.

 

[green]

IMO it is a re-start, but will not renegate the Reeve's movies...

It's re-invigorating the franchise. In a Re-ally interesting way.

 

[The Sage]

I don't think you realize that SR is a back-to-basics Superman. Singer knows that we haven't seen Superman on the screen in a long time. So what has he done? He's created a film where an established Superman has to reestablish his relationships with the people of Metropolis. In this instance, SR is like an origin. It's almost like he's meeting these Metropolitans for the first time. You see, 6 years is a long time. People change.

So he's really gone for 6 years?

 

[IT is Batgirl]

So he's really gone for 6 years?

It seems to be 6 years, although I don't think the script explicitly states it.

 

[C. Lee]

So he's really gone for 6 years?

Give or take a day or two....could have forgot all about leap year.

 

[Sverdlovski]

It's re-invigorating the franchise. In a Re-ally interesting way.

Like Jeff Robinov said, it's a fresh story yet true to the mythology...

 

[DIRECTOR]

do u guys think that maybe Superman has been gone, but Clark Kent is still at the Planet, meaning, Clark chose to stop being Superman for that 6 years, or am i stepping into Spiderman boundry here?

 

[Alonsovich]

So he's really gone for 6 years?

No... he just turned time forward...

 

[IT is Batgirl]

do u guys think that maybe Superman has been gone, but Clark Kent is still at the Planet, meaning, Clark chose to stop being Superman for that 6 years, or am i stepping into Spiderman boundry here?

No. It's not like Spider-man where CK just stops choosing to be Superman or whatever. CK/Kal/Supes is *gone*.

This is from Variety in January.

"It's a little like 'X-Men,' where the mutants existed when the movie began," Singer said. "It's not an origin story; I didn't want to remake what Richard Donner did so well in the original, and didn't want to tread on the great work they're doing on 'Smallville.' He's already part of the culture; he has left the planet. This is the story of his return."

 

[superfever]

do u guys think that maybe Superman has been gone, but Clark Kent is still at the Planet, meaning, Clark chose to stop being Superman for that 6 years, or am i stepping into Spiderman boundry here?

which line demarkate the boundary?

 

[DIRECTOR]

this is one thing that i like what Singer is doing according to the latest article at www.superman-v.com

SHH received an anonymous tip that bryan Singer has cast Stephan Bender in the role of Young Clark Kent. We had heard that Singer was in L.A recently looking at boys to play a teenage Clark but it was unknown if someone had been cast. His agency listed "Superman Returns' on his CV but quickly removed it. Superman Returns will feature some flashback scenes where some of Clark's life in Smallville is explored. We hear that Singer wants to show a young Clark experimenting with his powers.

I wonder how long this film will be, since so many things are going on

 

[Bad Superman]

this is one thing that i like what Singer is doing according to the latest article at www.superman-v.com

SHH received an anonymous tip that bryan Singer has cast Stephan Bender in the role of Young Clark Kent. We had heard that Singer was in L.A recently looking at boys to play a teenage Clark but it was unknown if someone had been cast. His agency listed "Superman Returns' on his CV but quickly removed it. Superman Returns will feature some flashback scenes where some of Clark's life in Smallville is explored. We hear that Singer wants to show a young Clark experimenting with his powers.

I wonder how long this film will be, since so many things are going on

My guess is not less than 2 hours. They've got alot of gaps to fill and a good story to deliver. Anything less than that would be too rushed.