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How Do You Feel About The State of Hip-Hop?

cmill216 said:
Damn. When the hell did this happen? :wow:

Yeah, I think his album is called Kingdom Come and drops on November 21 of this year.
 
theShape said:
Who knows. But it was obvious his "retirement" wasn't for real. There was a big article in Entertainment Weekly. Maybe it's online.

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What a wonderful way ruin the fact that he would be the only rapper to end his career at the top (without dying). :dry:
 
Crooklyn said:
What a wonderful way ruin the fact that he would be the only rapper to end his career at the top (without dying). :dry:

I know, right? Let's just hope it's good.
 
Now if a Muslim woman strapped with a bomb on the bus / would the seconds running give you the jitters / just imagine an American based Christian organization planning to poison water supplies to bring the second coming quicker / ni**a

Long live Lupe.
 
CrypticOne said:
Yeah, I think his album is called Kingdom Come and drops on November 21 of this year.

Correct. :ninja:
 
Equint77 said:
I never thought Outkast sold out... it just took mainstream america freaking 10 years to realize how good their music is... anyone who was there when southernplayalistic came out back in 1994 already knew.
Southern-playaaaalistic-cadillaaaaaaac-funky-muzik!! Andre was the sh1t back in the day.
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cmill216 said:
Now if a Muslim woman strapped with a bomb on the bus / would the seconds running give you the jitters / just imagine an American based Christian organization planning to poison water supplies to bring the second coming quicker / ni**a

Long live Lupe.

Yeah, Lupe is good, like someone said, a breath of fresh air. Did anyone pick his album up yesterday? His song "The Instrumental" is pretty good, I like it.
 
Equint77 said:
I never thought Outkast sold out... it just took mainstream america freaking 10 years to realize how good their music is... anyone who was there when southernplayalistic came out back in 1994 already knew.

I respectfully disagree. I think everything since Stankonia has been progressively worse, lacking the truly creative spirit that southern and especially ATLiens and Aquemini showcased. Now it's all just jazzy influences and pop hooks and no relevant social meaning whatsoever.
 
CrypticOne said:
Yeah, Lupe is good, like someone said, a breath of fresh air. Did anyone pick his album up yesterday? His song "The Instrumental" is pretty good, I like it.

I've got the whole leaked version. Most of which made up the eventual retail version of Food & Liquor. "The Instrumental" was titled "Never Lies".
 
Anyone listen to or like Mattafix? They are like a mixture of hip-hop, reggae, and r&b... really good.
 
Rayne said:
I respectfully disagree. I think everything since Stankonia has been progressively worse, lacking the truly creative spirit that southern and especially ATLiens and Aquemini showcased. Now it's all just jazzy influences and pop hooks and no relevant social meaning whatsoever.

To be honest.... I loved the Love Below... minus that overplayed "hey ya".... for that same reason.... because it was part funk/jazz... and totally different than anything out there in 04.

Hell I'm still listening to that CD today.
 
Equint77 said:
To be honest.... I loved the Love Below... minus that overplayed "hey ya".... for that same reason.... because it was part funk/jazz... and totally different than anything out there in 04.

Hell I'm still listening to that CD today.

That's cool; to each his own. I just don't think any of their new work touches the sheer emotion, passion and raw creativity that they produces in the 90's.
 
Rayne said:
That's cool; to each his own. I just don't think any of their new work touches the sheer emotion, passion and raw creativity that they produces in the 90's.
I don't think any of the hip hop elites of the 90s have it today either. It's just how it goes, with time, you slowly decline.
 
Crooklyn said:
I don't think any of the hip hop elites of the 90s have it today either. It's just how it goes, with time, you slowly decline.

This is true. Ice Cube lost it for the most part, as has Dre, Snoop, Ja Rule, DMX, and even Bone, solo or collective. The times have simply changed, I suppose. Then again, perhaps I just changed, or I just have a taste for that era. Hard to believe, I was never even a fan of BIG, Nas, Wu, or Jay-Z, so who can say what my opinion's worth. I liked some guys and hated others. You like what you like.
 
Dre rap-wise was never magnificent, however imo he's one of the only ones that has been consistent with his work (in this case, production). His beats are to this day radio-toppers. :up:

Jay I think has reached past his prime, he was right, he has nothing left to say.

Nas I'm more open to staying in the game. He still has it. He's practically the only last remnant of the old-school rap that's still going strong.

Eminem...godammit. Eminem. The guy has tremendous skill, but that f'n green got to him. Ugh. I can't even talk about it. Talk about wasted potential. :(
 
cmill216 said:
Now if a Muslim woman strapped with a bomb on the bus / would the seconds running give you the jitters / just imagine an American based Christian organization planning to poison water supplies to bring the second coming quicker / ni**a

Long live Lupe.

WTF does that mean?
 
C-$ said:
WTF does that mean?

We as Americans are so quick to fear and feel paranoia in regards to Muslim extremists that we don't even shed a light on the fact that there are Christian extremists out there as well, who have planned heinous acts of their own. Hence the tongue-in-cheek title of the song, "Close Your Mind".

And Lupe is referring to: http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=ja99tucker

In 1986, a white supremacist Christian Identity group known as the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord sought to overthrow the federal government and hasten the return of the Messiah. They acquired 30 gallons of potassium cyanide to poison urban water supplies, believing that God would direct the poison to kill only the targeted individuals--nonbelievers, Jews, and blacks living in major cities


^ This, my friends, is the type of s*** you ain't gonna hear on anybody's radio station anytime soon.
 
cmill216 said:
We as Americans are so quick to fear and feel paranoia in regards to Muslim extremists that we don't even shed a light on the fact that there are Christian extremists out there as well, who have planned heinous acts of their own. Hence the tongue-in-cheek title of the song, "Close Your Mind".

And Lupe is referring to: http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=ja99tucker




^ This, my friends, is the type of s*** you ain't gonna hear on anybody's radio station NO TIME soon.

The "Christian extremeist are just as bad Muslim extremist" argument is getting kind of old. I see what he's saying but you can't equate christian extremist to muslim extremist.
 
Reminder, Lupe's on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. He's performing Kick Push and I Gotcha.
 
Jay-Z pretty much had to come out of retirement, not due to his ego or want to be rap king, but he has to bolster Def Jam sales now that he's CEO. It's pretty much Kanye and Ludacris carrying that ship and there's speculation Def Jam isn't performing as well as it should. Jay-Z is his own asset from a CEO point of view.

I'm looking forward to the new Nas album, aptly titled "Hip Hop is Dead: The N". There's gonna be collaborations from Wu-tang, Kanye, and Jay-Z. This will be the first Def Jam LP from Nas.
 

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