Iceburgeruk
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Once they get around to x-men 4 what kind of antagonists (villains) can actually EFFECTIVELY be used now that jean,cyclops and xavier are apparantly dead (lets say for the time being xavier, jean and cyclops don`t return to the mansion for the forseable future).
Sentinels - The strongest contender. The mechanical maniacs will try and murder any mutant so the current flimsy team will do. I just hope they don`t have wolverine be the only one who fights any of them. Without cyclops the group dynamic is of course limited as the only energy power present are storms but that could be dealt with.
Magneto and Brotherhood - Still a possibility but do we really need 4 magneto attacks in a row?
Juggernaut - Could work but without xavier around juggernaut as a villain is pretty much completly pointless, he has no solid reason to attack the x-men once his step brother is dead. Besides there was no eveidence that he and xavier were step siblings in the third movie so the character essentially has no motivation anyway.
Shadow King - On first glance a possibility as he has backstory involving storm but with neither jean, psylocke or xavier on the team, the x-men would have no chance against a psychic demi-god like the shadow king. To quote x2 "He`s a being of pure psychic energy, fueled by fear and hatred without the limitations of corporal flesh who will never die so long as his own indomitable will survives. What are you going to do? Scratch him with your claws?"lol.
Shiar - Too sci-fi apparantly and minus xavier there is no plot connection (the whole lilandra deal).
Apocalypse - Could work but apocalpyse is connected most of the time to the summers clan. Jean and cyke are dead. Maddie pryor doesn`t exist yet. And in turn cable and phoenix 2 don`t exist yet either (and prob never will if cyke and jean are both permenantly deceased. Both parents being dead kinda prevents a baby from being born after said parents snuff it). Also apocalypse has always been kind of goidlike in his power levels requiring like every x-men on the roster to take him down. Somehow i doubt wolverine, storm, iceman, shadowcat and collosus could manage it on their own reguardless of how many fastball specials were performed.lol. Also if he turns angel to archangel i have a disctint feeling wolvie would sooner gut warren than try to bring him back in line.
Cameron Hodge - Angel`s nemesis. He could only be defeated by cyke and havok though (Storm wasn`t up to the challenge and wolvie just got slapped around like puppet...on a string...in a hurricane). Cyke is dead and havok has little reson to join if his brother is deceased. In fact he has more reason NOT to join if being an x-man caused his brother to die.
Onslaught - No xavier. So no onslaught.
Madelyne pryor - No Cyclops. No cylops abandoning her. So no maddie.
Hellfire Club - A distinct possibility. I can`t think of an interesting plot but (drum roll) that never stopped an x-movie in the past. LOL.
Morlocks - Callisto already got whipped so whats the point.
Mister Sinister - Cyclops and jean are both dead so there is no one on the x-team who sinister would even both with glancing at. Wolvie might be apparrantly cool but that doesn`t make mister sinister think his genes are any more interesting than a housefly`s.
Marauders - Sinister`s cronies. So they have no reason to go near the x-men. The whole mutant massacre thing (which is the only non-summers bloodline reason that sinister`s lot fought with the x-men) is unlikely at it is just a continuity mess and would just be annoying.
Legion - No xavier no reason for xavier`s son to clutter up the place.
So if they don`t ressurect xavier or cylcops then out of a possible 14 villains we only have a vague 4 that would actually work well. One set of whom has been in the previous 3 films an as such is danger of becoming rather repetitive and tedious. Two more who I can`t really think of any truly interesting and original plots around which doesn`t involve jean, phoenix or cyclops. And the final set who are giant robots who are basically balnk and characterless.
And whom nearly all (sentinels, apocalypse, magneto & brotherhood and the hellfire club) are a little bit too powrful to fit into the wolvie centeredf action scene formula. I mean I can see where the hellfire club could work for wolvie fights but how (believably) could wolvie have a a martail arts fight scene against sentinels or apocalypse? Apoclaypse would be the same size but the difference in strength would make wolvie beating or even fighting apocalypse laughable and ridiculously insulting. Its like end of days all over again. "Arnie fights and kills the devil. Pffft lol. Yeah riiiiight!"
So to sum up killing cyke and xavier means they (i.e fox) have essentiallly limited themselves to between two and four possible films that would be remotely originla or interesting. Where with a living cyclops they had a possible 13 more films, not counting if they have cameron hodge or mr sinister retrun for anothe film. Lets weigh that up in fox`s current schemes of just wolvie/storm leadership combo we have an x-men franchise that will have fresh interesting threats up till x-men 4 or x-men 7. Under a team which features non-deceased xavier and cyclops we get a franchise that could still be putting out new and interesting plots till at the very least x-men 16!
But apparantly shooting ones self in the foot is better than laying the groundwork for a franchise.
Way to go twentieth century fox thats as shrewd a move as having an avengers movie team comprised of hank pym clones each representing a differnet one of his many aliases. Or a spider-man movie where spidey goes around and kills 200 members of his super-villain back catalogue...starting with the most popular ones! lol.
Sentinels - The strongest contender. The mechanical maniacs will try and murder any mutant so the current flimsy team will do. I just hope they don`t have wolverine be the only one who fights any of them. Without cyclops the group dynamic is of course limited as the only energy power present are storms but that could be dealt with.
Magneto and Brotherhood - Still a possibility but do we really need 4 magneto attacks in a row?
Juggernaut - Could work but without xavier around juggernaut as a villain is pretty much completly pointless, he has no solid reason to attack the x-men once his step brother is dead. Besides there was no eveidence that he and xavier were step siblings in the third movie so the character essentially has no motivation anyway.
Shadow King - On first glance a possibility as he has backstory involving storm but with neither jean, psylocke or xavier on the team, the x-men would have no chance against a psychic demi-god like the shadow king. To quote x2 "He`s a being of pure psychic energy, fueled by fear and hatred without the limitations of corporal flesh who will never die so long as his own indomitable will survives. What are you going to do? Scratch him with your claws?"lol.
Shiar - Too sci-fi apparantly and minus xavier there is no plot connection (the whole lilandra deal).
Apocalypse - Could work but apocalpyse is connected most of the time to the summers clan. Jean and cyke are dead. Maddie pryor doesn`t exist yet. And in turn cable and phoenix 2 don`t exist yet either (and prob never will if cyke and jean are both permenantly deceased. Both parents being dead kinda prevents a baby from being born after said parents snuff it). Also apocalypse has always been kind of goidlike in his power levels requiring like every x-men on the roster to take him down. Somehow i doubt wolverine, storm, iceman, shadowcat and collosus could manage it on their own reguardless of how many fastball specials were performed.lol. Also if he turns angel to archangel i have a disctint feeling wolvie would sooner gut warren than try to bring him back in line.
Cameron Hodge - Angel`s nemesis. He could only be defeated by cyke and havok though (Storm wasn`t up to the challenge and wolvie just got slapped around like puppet...on a string...in a hurricane). Cyke is dead and havok has little reson to join if his brother is deceased. In fact he has more reason NOT to join if being an x-man caused his brother to die.
Onslaught - No xavier. So no onslaught.
Madelyne pryor - No Cyclops. No cylops abandoning her. So no maddie.
Hellfire Club - A distinct possibility. I can`t think of an interesting plot but (drum roll) that never stopped an x-movie in the past. LOL.
Morlocks - Callisto already got whipped so whats the point.
Mister Sinister - Cyclops and jean are both dead so there is no one on the x-team who sinister would even both with glancing at. Wolvie might be apparrantly cool but that doesn`t make mister sinister think his genes are any more interesting than a housefly`s.
Marauders - Sinister`s cronies. So they have no reason to go near the x-men. The whole mutant massacre thing (which is the only non-summers bloodline reason that sinister`s lot fought with the x-men) is unlikely at it is just a continuity mess and would just be annoying.
Legion - No xavier no reason for xavier`s son to clutter up the place.
So if they don`t ressurect xavier or cylcops then out of a possible 14 villains we only have a vague 4 that would actually work well. One set of whom has been in the previous 3 films an as such is danger of becoming rather repetitive and tedious. Two more who I can`t really think of any truly interesting and original plots around which doesn`t involve jean, phoenix or cyclops. And the final set who are giant robots who are basically balnk and characterless.
And whom nearly all (sentinels, apocalypse, magneto & brotherhood and the hellfire club) are a little bit too powrful to fit into the wolvie centeredf action scene formula. I mean I can see where the hellfire club could work for wolvie fights but how (believably) could wolvie have a a martail arts fight scene against sentinels or apocalypse? Apoclaypse would be the same size but the difference in strength would make wolvie beating or even fighting apocalypse laughable and ridiculously insulting. Its like end of days all over again. "Arnie fights and kills the devil. Pffft lol. Yeah riiiiight!"
So to sum up killing cyke and xavier means they (i.e fox) have essentiallly limited themselves to between two and four possible films that would be remotely originla or interesting. Where with a living cyclops they had a possible 13 more films, not counting if they have cameron hodge or mr sinister retrun for anothe film. Lets weigh that up in fox`s current schemes of just wolvie/storm leadership combo we have an x-men franchise that will have fresh interesting threats up till x-men 4 or x-men 7. Under a team which features non-deceased xavier and cyclops we get a franchise that could still be putting out new and interesting plots till at the very least x-men 16!
But apparantly shooting ones self in the foot is better than laying the groundwork for a franchise.
Way to go twentieth century fox thats as shrewd a move as having an avengers movie team comprised of hank pym clones each representing a differnet one of his many aliases. Or a spider-man movie where spidey goes around and kills 200 members of his super-villain back catalogue...starting with the most popular ones! lol.
I'm sure his spin-off film is gonna look the same way.
