How would Marvel Universe react to the War on Terror?

[roach]

I honestly believe that Cap would have declared War on Terror himself

 

[Badfish40oz]

We're going in circles here. You are completely missing the point and it's hurting my head now.

Make that two people who are missing the point. Are you one of these people that defends terrible films because the fight scenes entertained you, and that is all a movie is meant to do anyway?

That can be all a movie is meant to do. But it isn't WHAT a movie is meant to do. You can't say that. People tell stories for all kinds of different reasons. To say that every writer (comics, books, films) sits down solely to "entertain the masses" is just silly. That's not true, nor should it be.

You can never say what a medium is intended to do. That's a black and white statement that has no place in ANY kind of art.

 

[Darthphere]

You know, this thread brings up a conversation I had wiht an old friend of mine a couple of years ago. It was shortly after 9/11 and we were talking comics a bit and the ASM issue was brought up into the convo. I just remember my friend loving it and thinking it was great. I thought the same but I told him how I didnt think 9/11 should be brought into comics. He asked me why and I told him that it was nothing about sensistivity or wanting to forget. its just, I find it incredibly difficult to believe such an act would take place in the cmoics universe, moreso in the DCU. I know terrorist attacks happen all the time in the MU, but it just seems difficult for me to believe that. Especially after reading Ex machina.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Stan Lee said that he would not like a remake of the first Captain America cover where he is punching out Hitler and replace it with Cap punching out Osamma Bin Ladin. He said it would be in bad taste.
Probably the same with the war on terror.

Or that cover where Captain America travels back in time to defeat Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympics.

 

[torkibe]

Make that two people who are missing the point.

Clearly.

As I have said several times already, and this will be the last; Comic books are many things to many people. They educate some, they enlighten some. Some are inspired, some are shocked or amazed. Some are all these things. Whatever they are beyond entertainment is purely a bi-product. Intended or not, it is still a bi-product of the greater purpose which is entertainment.

 

[3dman27]

I honestly believe that Cap would have declared War on Terror himself

i do believe you're right roach

 

[The Question]

Clearly.

As I have said several times already, and this will be the last; Comic books are many things to many people. They educate some, they enlighten some. Some are inspired, some are shocked or amazed. Some are all these things. Whatever they are beyond entertainment is purely a bi-product. Intended or not, it is still a bi-product of the greater purpose which is entertainment.

And entertainment does not simply mean an escape from reality. People can be entertained by something that makes social statements. People can be entertained by a work of art. People can be entertained by something that changes the world. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Comics are not, first and foremost, and escape from reality. Comics are, first and foremost, comics. Wether or not they serve as an escape from reality has nothing to do with their true nature. They can be an escape from reality. But that is not their primairy function, nor should it be.

 

[samurai black]

This guy would have forseen the war on terror when it was just a wet dream in bin laden's head.

This guy would have had the balls to have a premptive strike and would have sent these guys into the middle east.

then if bin laden were to have crawled into a foxhole, he'd sent this guy to go looking for him

 

[The Question]

This guy would have forseen the war on terror when it was just a wet dream in bin laden's head.

Professor X isn't precognative.

This guy would have had the balls to have a premptive strike and would have sent these guys into the middle east.

1) We're talking 616, not Ultimate.

2) Fury already deals with international terrorism regularly. And yet, he doesn't wipe it all out in one fell swoop like the awesome god of espionoge you make him out to be. You know why? Because he's a human being. If someone is in hiding with no contact to the outside world, he'd have no way of finding him, even with his super science.

then if bin laden were to have crawled into a foxhole, he'd sent this guy to go looking for him

1) He'd still have to find him.

2) The Hulk doesn't do what Nick Fury says.

 

[CombatRock319]

wow did anyone read the issue during morrisson's run on new xmen where prof x and jean travel to india and he convinces a suicide bomber on their airplane to sit down and defuse the bomb using his telepathy. yea thats what would happen.

 

[samurai black]

Professor X isn't precognative.

I said in his dream, so prof x would've sensed his thoughts.

1) We're talking 616, not Ultimate.

ok so theses guys would've been called in by S.H.I.E.L.D.

2) The Hulk doesn't do what Nick Fury says.

actually he does do what fury says although he may not like it

 

[3dman27]

i think he send spidey in after them

 

[The Question]

I said in his dream, so prof x would've sensed his thoughts.

No, he wouldn't have. He would still have to have known to single in on Bin Laden's thoughts, which he wouldn't have. Professor X would have had no way of predicting 9/11.

ok so theses guys would've been called in by S.H.I.E.L.D.

That team didn't exist before this year.

actually he does do what fury says although he may not like it

No, he doesn't. I have no idea what that page is from, but it's probably one instance out of a very long line of The Hulk not doing what other people tell him to do.

 

[samurai black]

No, he doesn't. I have no idea what that page is from, but it's probably one instance out of a very long line of The Hulk not doing what other people tell him to do.

It's from "Peace in Our Time." the arc right before Planet Hulk. In it Nick Fury (or an LMD) finds the hulk out in the wilderness and asks him to go into outerspace to stop a rogue satellite before it threatens earth. The Illuminati use this oppurtunity to send The Hulk through a wormhole.

 

[Venom.Symbiote]

Cap would have been on the first plane to the Middle East and personally put a Star Spangled beat down on Bin Laden. Then he would have brought him back for trial.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

I could see this happening two ways.How Marvel was Pre-Bendis and Post-Bendis,Pre-Bendis would have The Avengers and Fantastic Four in the public`s view with keeping things under control while the X-Men would perhaps find things out from the shadows.Captain America would lean a front to capture Bin Laden,and a sence of understanding would take place.Post Bendis would have things pretty much how they are in the real world,messed up.

 

[deemar325]

Captain America would find OBL an make mince meat outta him.

 

[Badfish40oz]

Yeah before the first plane hit, maybe just after the first plane hit, the entire situation would be finished. A hell of a lot more people would have been saved. Honestly there'd probably be 40 casualties in total had 9/11 been in the 616.

But I'm done. Somehow this seems tasteless.

 

[3dman27]

Captain America would find OBL an make mince meat outta him.

i hear you

 

[The Question]

Yeah before the first plane hit, maybe just after the first plane hit, the entire situation would be finished. A hell of a lot more people would have been saved. Honestly there'd probably be 40 casualties in total had 9/11 been in the 616.

I really highly doubt that. Even if just the first plane hit, you still have well over 200 deaths right there.

 

[roach]

and you still would have had the other casualties from the non NYC related 9/11 events.

 

[torkibe]

It's from "Peace in Our Time." the arc right before Planet Hulk. In it Nick Fury (or an LMD) finds the hulk out in the wilderness and asks him to go into outerspace to stop a rogue satellite before it threatens earth. The Illuminati use this oppurtunity to send The Hulk through a wormhole.

Correct. Also, at that point if I'm not mistaken, the Hulk had decided he wanted to help his image and become more of a team player to make up for all of the damage he had done in the past. Do some good.