Supergirl How would you move Supergirl into the main CWverse?

[DigificWriter]

We'll see Then. but It's best to make things simpler for them selves

There IS no "simpler" in this case.

They knew what they were getting themselves into when they made the narratively-driven decision to put Supergirl in a different dimension from every other series (which is a decision that would've been made even if Supergirl had ended up on The CW from the beginning), and the fact that they haven't even bothered talking about the idea of merging the universes pretty much says that they don't see any reason to do it and therefore aren't GOING to do it.

 

[zenith16]

There IS no "simpler" in this case.

They knew what they were getting themselves into when they made the narratively-driven decision to put Supergirl in a different dimension from every other series (which is a decision that would've been made even if Supergirl had ended up on The CW from the beginning), and the fact that they haven't even bothered talking about the idea of merging the universes pretty much says that they don't see any reason to do it and therefore aren't GOING to do it.

they did it cause the show of super girl was on another tv station/network and they weren't sure if a cross over would happen ever and the impossible happened in their view in they were allowed to do it . which doesn't happen often and lucky the station/network have the same owners. your over pushing it.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Sounds good to me. In theory, collapsing Earths 1 (Arrowverse), 2 (Zoom), 3 (Jay Garrick's Flash), "S" (Supergirl) and the 90s Flash Earth into a single Earth could work with a LOT of hand-waving. But, I think it's simpler, more convenient and potentially much more fun and compelling from a story point of view to keep them all separate.

Supergirl now has Lynda Carter on their roster. Imagine an episode where Supergirl ends up on an Earth where Wonder Woman has been a superhero for hundreds of years (to explain Carter's real life aging) and has achieved all sorts of wonderful (pun intended) things. Imagine what a source of inspiration that could be for Kara. Or there's hundreds of other possibilities for all four DC TV shows.

We already know that the Flash will be travelling to Gorilla City on Earth 2. That's just one example of the creative teams still being able to play with all of the interesting ideas provided by the Multiverse. Not to mention potentially the most interesting of all - the DC Movie universe/s co-existing with the four DC TV shows. I doubt it would ever happen, but imagine if they did have a scene of Ezra Miller's Flash in the Speedforce and Grant Gustin's Flash goes speeding by. How awesome would that be!

I think that's a lot better than bring Superman, Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, etc into the Arrowverse.

That would work but you would have to do it in reverse.

 

[DigificWriter]

they did it cause the show of super girl was on another tv station/network and they weren't sure if a cross over would happen ever and the impossible happened in their view in they were allowed to do it . which doesn't happen often and lucky the station/network have the same owners. your over pushing it.

Wrong.

They did it because they didn't want Supergirl to exist without Superman, which would've been narratively impossible and inconsistent with what they had established with the history of Arrow and The Flash at the time Supergirl went into development.

CBS picking up the show initially had NOTHING whatsoever to do with Supergirl's setting being separate from the setting of Arrow, Flash, etc., because they developed the series long before they knew where it would end up.

Also, there was interest in doing a crossover between Supergirl and at least one of the other Berlanti-produced superhero series long before "Worlds' Finest" was announced; their focus just wasn't on planning a crossover in the beginning because they had other things to worry about.

 

[zenith16]

Wrong.

They did it because they didn't want Supergirl to exist without Superman, which would've been narratively impossible and inconsistent with what they had established with the history of Arrow and The Flash at the time Supergirl went into development.

CBS picking up the show initially had NOTHING whatsoever to do with Supergirl's setting being separate from the setting of Arrow, Flash, etc., because they developed the series long before they knew where it would end up.

No they did do it cause it was on another tv station and cw made stupid mistake of not picking up in the first place. And your wrong about the crossovers since one will be happening from the jump

Any way it doesn't matter We'll see how things go from here.

 

[Thome216]

Never say never in TV. As I understand, there were others things that Berlanti said would not happen or could not be mentioned. Viewers and ratings can change a lot of things. Now would a merger happen now? No, it won't. Might it happen a season or two down the road, after we've gotten tired of the overused breaches and they need a real ratings hike like something the Crisis could provide, maybe we'll see...

 

[Kelly]

The thing is, everyone was saying....about a crossover in Season 1.....

The common quote from the PTB was... "In success anything can happen...."

So who knows.

As far as I'm concerned, it is all confusing....

 

[marvelrobbins]

I don't understand why they are forcing crossovers if they are not going to be
on same earth.

The flash consently universe hoping to force crossovers is going to get old very quickly.

If they aren't going to be In same universe there should be no crossovers between supergirl and CW DC universe.

 

[BH/HHH]

In the comics heroes always cross over from different universes. Pre crisis there were multiple versions of the same characters crossing over into other books too.

 

[marvelrobbins]

In the comics heroes always cross over from different universes. Pre crisis there were multiple versions of the same characters crossing over into other books too.

I am aware of that but the CW shows are different.LOT will have JSA and it
won't have alternate versions of say flash and black carney as members.

It's going to get old very quickly to consently have flash having to go to
SUpergirl's word when they have crossovers.This also means arrow and LOT will never have crossover with supergirl if flash isn't involved.

I am guessing the 4 way crossover for some reason involves flash bring supergirl to CW universe.and the musicil crossover will be flash going to supergirl world again and then supergirl goes with flash for rest of crossover on the flash.

 

[DigificWriter]

The Waverider can cross dimensions, Cisco can create portals himself, and both Felicity and Curtis have the technical know-how to build a portal device (especially if helped by Cisco), so the idea that only Barry can facilitate crossovers between Earth-1 and "Earth-S" is patently false. There's also incentive for Kara to find a way to generate dimensional portals on her own, which brings the DEO and their resources into play.

Also, the 4-way crossover and the Flash/Supergirl musical crossover are two separate things happening at two separate times (November/December for the 4-way crossover, and early Spring [March/April] for the Flash/Supergirl musical crossover).

 

[BH/HHH]

I am aware of that but the CW shows are different.LOT will have JSA and it
won't have alternate versions of say flash and black carney as members.

It's going to get old very quickly to consently have flash having to go to
SUpergirl's word when they have crossovers.This also means arrow and LOT will never have crossover with supergirl if flash isn't involved.

I am guessing the 4 way crossover for some reason involves flash bring supergirl to CW universe.and the musicil crossover will be flash going to supergirl world again and then supergirl goes with flash for rest of crossover on the flash.

Maybe if it is Mxy as the villain in those episodes he will cause the crossover in dimensions. Maybe they'll even get a Stargate like device to make it easy.

Tbh I still wouldn't be shocked if the long term plan was for the universes to merge. It makes sense to not rush into it as it would be something so huge it would probably work better for a season finale. It would certainly fit the newspaper we saw in season one of the Flash with the red skies.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Where was it ever shown or said that the waverider could cross into another universe the only thing I can surmise is you confused dimensional travel which exist within the same universe unless otherwise stated with muliversal/universe travel. All that has been offered so far is that it can travel through time.

 

[famicommander]

Where was it ever shown or said that the waverider could cross into another universe the only thing I can surmise is you confused dimensional travel which exist within the same universe unless otherwise stated with muliversal/universe travel. All that has been offered so far is that it can travel through time.

One of the showrunners confirmed that the Waverider can go anywhere. Any time, any dimension, any location.

 

[DigificWriter]

One of the people involved with the production of Legends offhandedly talked about the Waverider being able to transit dimensions as well as time. I don't remember exactly who it was or what, exactly, was said, but I remember reading/hearing about it. It might've been showrunner Phil Klemmer, but I could be wrong.

Edit: Ninja'd by famicommander.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Interesting, well until it is brought up in the show I'm not taking that into account as it hasn't been canonized yet.

 

[DigificWriter]

"Word of God" information just as Canon as what's shown onscreen, because it comes directly from the people who establish what's shown onscreen.

 

[TheRedWraith]

"Word of God" information just as Canon as what's shown onscreen, because it comes directly from the people who establish what's shown onscreen.

In a state of flux and as of yet never mentioned or shown as such it could easily change.

 

[DigificWriter]

In a state of flux and as of yet never mentioned or shown as such it could easily change.

So?

What's shown onscreen is just as "subject to change" as "word of God" statements.

 

[TheRedWraith]

So?

What's shown onscreen is just as "subject to change" as "word of God" statements.

Yes, but one should never let unsupported (in regards to what is in the show) stuff like this seep into speculation, to account for things like that in major specualation like the reason for a crossover there would need to be some inkling of backup in the show.

 

[DigificWriter]

"Word of God" statements are not speculative; until/unless thwyre contradicted, they're as concrete as anything shown onscreen.

 

[TheRedWraith]

"Word of God" statements are not speculative; they're as concrete as anything shown onscreen.

Not for this guy when they are completely uncorroborated in-show and being used as a basis for major speculation.

 

[Batsfan1]

This is flat-out wrong.

This is also flat-out wrong.

It isn't.

In the Pilot Winn is trying to prove that aliens were real to Kara, which she shoots down. If aliens were known about publicly, there'd be no room for Kara to deny it. That's what I meant, publicly, not by the government. Have a very great day!

God bless you all!

 

[DigificWriter]

^ If thats what you think she was trying to do, you completely missed the point of that scene.

 

[Batsfan1]

^ If thats what you think she was trying to do, you completely missed the point of that scene.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. It seems I mispoke. I'm sorry for the confusion. I was talking about how if she had to have someone convincing her that aliens were real and she was in a position to say that they weren't, then aliens can't be publicly known. Sorry again.