Iron Man 2 Howard finally speaks!

Yikes...!

Soft spoken anger!
 
If there is anytime that I wish there could be an about face is this time. Howard was excellent in the 1st flick. I'm not knocking Cheadle, but Howard says ""Rhoady" to me alot easier than he does.
 
Who knows if what he says is true or not? Studios usually are run by a-holes so I'm not standing up for them but I've never seen a studio that liked recasting, because they like to keep everything the same to a sequel to a successful film. So I'll put this in the for all I know it could be true and if it is the studio is wrong but I don't really believe it because it doesn't add up category.
 
Nobody can really say what happened here. It may not have been Howard at all, but his agent that messed things up.

Considering that Howard is saying he doesn't know, I'd probably try and find out from his agent what might have happened.

Does anybody really think that Marvel is going to offer Howard half the dough to re-play this part, just so they can cast somebody else?
 
If there is anytime that I wish there could be an about face is this time. Howard was excellent in the 1st flick. I'm not knocking Cheadle, but Howard says ""Rhoady" to me alot easier than he does.

Agreed, Cheadle is a great actor to me, but Howard fits Rhodey so much more.
 
We have yet to see Marvel´s version, but if this is true, it´s totally f***ed up, and I mean, Tom Rothman-level f***ed up.
 
This doesn't make much sense, there has to be more to it that Howard is not saying. Why would a studio WANT to recast after such a successful first film when the actor's personal life is not attached to anything controversial (i.e. Scientology :hehe:). I think there is more to it, but whatever the reason, I'm disappointed he is not returning.
 
A lot of this argument has to do w/ proximity, were closer to the last one than part II. IF what we know today goes forward and we specualte 3 IM films and Cheadle does the last two. It'l be like Bale vs. whomever other Jokers you USED to like before Bale got w/ Nolan.

Keep ur mind open, and realize that a) Howard is the original b) IM is a huge worldwide success c) Nobobdy directly associated w/ the film is hurtin for notarity or bankroll.

this is what we do tho
 
Its all a Money thing dude, Howard probably wanted a percantage of the sequel gross.
 
Ill take Howards word (whos continued to do plenty of low budget features since his careers taken off) over Marvels.
 
Wow, if what Howard says is true, total dick move on Marvel's part. Who knows if they're heading in the right direction anymore...
 
There are two sides to every story... no way are you signing an actor like Cheadle if Howard was affordable for Marvel's standards... use some sense people. Howard overpriced himself... that's all there is too it.
 
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We have yet to see Marvel´s version, but if this is true, it´s totally f***ed up, and I mean, Tom Rothman-level f***ed up.


Agreed.

Ill take Howards word (whos continued to do plenty of low budget features since his careers taken off) over Marvels.

On this one I gotta take Howards side, Marvel made some terrible decisions when making TIH, and have seriously run the risk of losing a great actor like Norton for a potential franchise by cutting out scene's from TIH that would have made the movie A LOT better.

It wouldnt surprise me if they had done something similar with Howard. Howard previously said he wouldnt mind waiting until movie 3 to become War Machine, maybe Marvel disagreed with that strongly.
 
There are two sides to every story... no way are you signing an actor like Cheadle if Howard was affordable for Marvel's standards... use some sense people. Howard overpriced himself... that's all there is too it.
So all the sudden Howard overprices himself after being in movies like Awake, Idlewild, and The Perfect Holiday, all after he was nominated for an Oscar?:whatever:

You act like Marvel is above screwing someone over.
 
So war machine is supposed to be an old man from mozambique?
Dumb...Just Dumb...:bh:
 
This all still doesnt add up to me, why would Marvel now tell Howard themselves rather than let him find out the way he did.

I need some more confirmation before i fully believe this recast has been made because it just doesnt make sense. You would think Cheadle would require a bigger pay packet than Howard! I'm just waiting for Jon or Marvel to clear everything up for us.
 
MARVEL is new to all of this. it looks like they need to learn a lot.first TIH and now this.

or someone is lying....but who.
 
You guys can jump on Marvel all you want, but you have no clue if Howard is telling the truth. Dont just take him at face value, THINK.

He lost a game of financial chicken with a studio and LOST. Do you think he's going to say it was his own greed? Of course not. Do you think he likes losing out on what would have been a cash cow for him? Of course not. The sucker is trying to save face.

All you have to do is go back and watch his pre-IM interviews to see how cocky the SOB was. If he and his agent acted like that with Marvel, then Marvel did the right thing. Howard was never right for the part with his sissy voice, slight frame, and stoner demeanor.
 
So all the sudden Howard overprices himself after being in movies like Awake, Idlewild, and The Perfect Holiday, all after he was nominated for an Oscar?:whatever:

You act like Marvel is above screwing someone over.

Maybe becasue Iron Man was supposed to be his bankable franchise and he didn't have anything else to fall back on... other than a singing career... :whatever:. It is what it is... you aren't going to tell me an actor like Cheadle comes cheap. If Howard wanted double of that... or even triple of that money that went to Cheadle... that may have put Marvel over their budget. Marvel just can't start handing out blank pay checks.
 
Once again everyone's throwing Marvel under the bus.

You guys should be more respectful because we don't know all the facts. And besides that, if it wasn't for Marvel we wouldn't be getting these movies or Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark or things like that at all.

They were the ones that took control of their properties and said they were going to do them this time.

We wouldn't have gotten Iron Man the way it was without Marvel. Just think about that sometime.
 
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Does anybody really think that Marvel is going to offer Howard half the dough to re-play this part, just so they can cast somebody else?

Exactly. It's not like Cheadle is a no-name, cheap actor.

I'm crying "BS" on Howard. He knows why and is just using a public forum to try and stick it to Marvel for not giving in to his demands.
 
2 + 2 = 4

What Howard is saying just simply don't add up. They just out of the blue recasted the role for no reason what-so-ever??? I don't believe that for one second. Again I don't know exactly what happened and I'm not standing up for the studio but why would they recast with an actor for no reason? I'm inclined to believe the actors before the big corporation but please. Cheadle ass and cheap either, he was a nominated for a best actor oscar just like Howard...I know we are all inclined to believe the lil actor over the big bad studio, but think for a moment! It doesn't add up.

Right now I'm inclined to believe that Howard lost a game of chicken over the, the studio recast my role for no reason, explaination."
 
2 + 2 = 4

What Howard is saying just simply don't add up. They just out of the blue recasted the role for no reason what-so-ever??? I don't believe that for one second. Again I don't know exactly what happened and I'm not standing up for the studio but why would they recast with an actor for no reason? I'm inclined to believe the actors before the big corporation but please. Cheadle ass and cheap either, he was a nominated for a best actor oscar just like Howard...I know we are all inclined to believe the lil actor over the big bad studio, but think for a moment! It doesn't add up.

Right now I'm inclined to believe that Howard lost a game of chicken over the, the studio recast my role for no reason, explaination."
Well if that's the case, maybe the studio should give their explanation for the recast instead of just sitting around letting Howard talk crap about them. I mean, Howard's word is the only one we have right now and Marvel screwed Norton over during TIH, so you can't blame people for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

WB recasted Katie Holmes for basically no explanation and yes I know her performance was a laugh riot, but who knows. It could've happened here as well.
 

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