Hulk VS DC ?????

[jan walenta]

I wish I knew what issue number that picture was from. I know it was during the whole MPD thing but yes The Beast had even the Savage Hulk weary and fearful. I would love to see both the Beast aka Guilt Hulk or the Devil Hulk take over Banner's body.

 

[STRONGEST]

Originally posted by guyverjay
For the other Hulk's to be scared the beast must be a powerhouse. The Hulk has never been scared of anyone.

It reminds of the time when the beyonder said the Hulk's true power is infinite.

When did the Beyonder say that????

If you can tell me the issue or post the cover it would be of a lot of help please man!!!

Thanks already

 

[Guyverjay]

I can't remember which issue it was, it was during secret wars.

 

[jan walenta]

Didn't Beyonder say that when he had Hulk confined in some kind of energy bubble and commented that Hulk was power incarnate and reminded him of himself.

 

[Guyverjay]

Yep

 

[Docker2.0]

Originally posted by Gimili
Actually, pretty much all those people can beat him. Even Batman might do it if knows about the Hulk's physiology and uses a gamma scrambler.

This isn't a Hulk bashing or anything. It's just that DC's heroes are
generally orders of magnitude above Marvel in terms of power levels.

You guys are waisting your time. Gimili has his mind made up that DC is better and I guess he believes that Batman can hurt the Hulk with a kick in his abs. I'm like you guys, if the Doomsday(I like him but it is the stupidest character created) can give the JLA trouble, then the Hulk can give them a heartattack!

 

[Lopan]

I am an old school comic fan of the Hulk (Trimpe/Buscema era) and the only DC that ever hooked me back then was The Demon. (And that was a Kirby, go figure.)

This thread is like a case study on why I am not a fan of DC, which would be better titled DEM Comics for Dues Ex Machina Comics.

(def: a person or thing (as in fiction or drama) that appears or is introduced suddenly and unexpectedly and provides a contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty.)

Superman's powers are so great that any direct confrontation is pointless. The drama is weather or not he will "save the day", not if he will get hurt. Now he is even holding black holes in his hands? Even if he does not generate new power's out of thin air, there is always some application of his Super-whatever abilities to yield a completely unexpectable result. Also, once you can go back in time to fix things, there is no reason to not reverse the clock entirely and correct all of history's evils.

And then there is Batman. I do not see any difference between a "gamma-descrambler" and "Bat-anti-Hulk-spray". The Batman TV show really had this character nailed on a satirical level. (Not that they were not mocking the entire comicbook hero genre in that series.) Whatever he needs will miraculously appear on the belt or the car. Face it, there is not enough room between Adam West and the Dark Knight to slide a slip of paper between them. The silliness is still the same, dispite the cooler names for the "wonderful gadgets" and the noir settings.

And now I am told that the Green Lantern has become really powerful? Maybe because he was the object of ridicule on the WWE via his fan, the Hurricane, they felt the need to juice him up. And sure, he can just summon a "de-hulkifier" with his ring to convert the Hulk back to Banner.

I bet DC still dervives most of its income from two properties (SM and BM) that are nearly a century old. Talk about a creative drought.

And these crossover comics are another manifestation of a creative vacuum at both companies. Stan should be stripped of all decision making authority for actually allowing the Hulk to be taken by the likes of Batman.

Outcome decided by pole? Talk about prosituting your art.

 

[aaronw]

Could Superman's heat vision hurt the Hulk?

 

[JSPIDEY]

Superman could beat the Hulk. There was one crossover comic where Superman was off guard and was punched over the rainbow. Then he came back and stood like a tree. The Hulk pounded and pounded, but he eventually tired hisself out and turned back into Banner. Superman could beat the Hulk.

 

[JINoside]

Thats a stupid cross overD.........

 

[aaronw]

Originally posted by JSPIDEY
Superman could beat the Hulk. There was one crossover comic where Superman was off guard and was punched over the rainbow. Then he came back and stood like a tree. The Hulk pounded and pounded, but he eventually tired hisself out and turned back into Banner. Superman could beat the Hulk.

I don't know, The Hulk did hold up a fifty-billion ton mountain once, that is about as strong as Superman. THe Hulk is also just as invincible. Superman would have to utilize his speed and his flight to defeat the hulk, thats why I was wondering if Superman ever hurt the Hulk with his heat vision. You also have to admit though, that when it comes to brains, Superman is just as smart as the Hulk. As a superman fan, it pains me to say that Superman would definitely take some pretty tough blows from the HUlk, but in the end, unless the Hulk found some kryptonite, Superman defeat the Hulk as he tired and turned back into Banner.

 

[STRONGEST]

Originally posted by JINoside
Thats a stupid cross overD.........

Those words are full of truth and justice.

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by JSPIDEY
Superman could beat the Hulk. There was one crossover comic where Superman was off guard and was punched over the rainbow. Then he came back and stood like a tree. The Hulk pounded and pounded, but he eventually tired hisself out and turned back into Banner. Superman could beat the Hulk.

Thas not how it happened at all

 

[aaronw]

This is the point...

THe Hulk would have to be having a very good day in order to beat superman

Superman would have to be having a normal day to beat the Hulk...

...there....end of story

 

[Hulkophile]

I don't know, The Hulk did hold up a fifty-billion ton mountain once, that is about as strong as Superman.

If you're referring to Secret Wars, the Hulk braced a section of the mountain that was tossed at him and the heroes by Molecule Man. It's an incredible feat, yeah, but he didn't lift or hold up the entire mountain. He just braced a section of it.

THe Hulk is also just as invincible.

You mean durable, right?

Superman would have to utilize his speed and his flight to defeat the hulk, thats why I was wondering if Superman ever hurt the Hulk with his heat vision. You also have to admit though, that when it comes to brains, Superman is just as smart as the Hulk.

Uhm... Unless it's Banner Hulk or merged/Professor Hulk, Supes is not that smart. Banner is a scientist and one of the smartest characters in the MU. Just because Supes is a nice guy doesn't mean he's incredibly smart. But you did say he's just as smart as the Hulk, so... Hey, you called it.

As a superman fan, it pains me to say that Superman would definitely take some pretty tough blows from the HUlk, but in the end, unless the Hulk found some kryptonite, Superman defeat the Hulk as he tired and turned back into Banner.

Tires? Turns back to Banner? The Hulk can last quite some time and doesn't tire all that easy. I'm sure Supes would out last him if they had a test to see which of the two would tire first, but that's besides the point. In a fight where the Hulk's anger appears to have no limit, as it increases, so does his strength. The Hulk will eventually match or exceed Supes' strength in a fight (slugfest especially). Remember, the madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets and that would apply here. If Supes uses trickery like fighting the Hulk for some time and then fly off or hover high above the Hulk (out of reach), the Hulk COULD lose interest if leaping up at Supes or throwing objects at him becomes moot and revert back to Banner once his anger decreases to a certain level. I just think it'll take a lot more than what you're alluding to, to make the Hulk tired and revert back to Banner. My stance has always been that in a straight up slugfest, the Hulk (any version except the gray Hulk) wins the majority. Once Supes uses his powers (super speed and heat vision), he wins the majority.

 

[Jomero]

Kinda reminds me of the old "Werewolf Vs. Vampire" debate. Two very different beings that you can't really compare. On one hand, Werewolves can contract disease and are mortal, Vampires can't contract disease and are already undead. Both are very strong. But give a werewolf a wooden stake, and see the odds swing heavily in his favor.

Give the hulk some kryptonite and watch the fun ensue.

 

[Spider-Hulk]

Originally posted by Hulkophile
If you're referring to Secret Wars, the Hulk braced a section of the mountain that was tossed at him and the heroes by Molecule Man. It's an incredible feat, yeah, but he didn't lift or hold up the entire mountain. He just braced a section of it.

Yes he braced a section that weighed 150 billion tons. No big deal. Bracing something on your back and lifting it usually amount to the same thing. The Hulk knoweth no limit to his strength.

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Spider-Hulk
Yes he braced a section that weighed 150 billion tons. No big deal. Bracing something on your back and lifting it usually amount to the same thing. The Hulk knoweth no limit to his strength.

what's this section rubbish?
His strength was keeping the mountain off the ground,there fore all the mountains weight (150 billion tonnes) was on him. PLUS the hulk had banners mind in control at the time. So he wasn't angry.

 

[JINoside]

*sigh of relief*.....got the Most "Kick Ass-iest" avatar on the Hype back on eh Guy?D......

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by JINoside
*sigh of relief*.....got the Most "Kick Ass-iest" avatar on the Hype back on eh Guy?D......

Yeah I thought its about time it came out of retirement

 

[JINoside]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Yeah I thought its about time it came out of retirement

I gots to say...thats some skill you got. You 'crowned' the best avatar maker so you Are the king. Don't take it off this time, it hurt me last time you did.......

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by JINoside
I gots to say...thats some skill you got. You 'crowned' the best avatar maker so you Are the king. Don't take it off this time, it hurt me last time you did.......

Have you seen the one I've done for Captain America?

 

[JINoside]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Have you seen the one I've done for Captain America?

I just had a 'geek-asm' over it just nowD. Two words..................Kick.........Ass...............

 

[stronghold]

Originally posted by Gimili
I mean that according to science, the Hulk's adrenaline rush should not be able to make him that strong. It should only enablle
him to lift several times his own body weight (over 1000 lbs.). That's the limit of adrenaline. Scientific mistakes are just littered throughout comics.

You mean... *GASP* a radioactive spider doesnt give you spider-like abilities!? A gamma bomb doesnt turn your skin green and make you superhuman in strength and durability!?

You mean to tell me that a lightning bolt wont make me a battery capable of discharging and storing millions of watts of electric current!?

Im sure you dont mean that me falling into radioactive waste wont make my brain abnormally large and better functioning, as well as turning my skin green!

SAY IT AINT SO!...

*cough* thats enough bitter sarcasm from me, fight on boys...

 

[aaronw]

Originally posted by stronghold
You mean... *GASP* a radioactive spider doesnt give you spider-like abilities!? A gamma bomb doesnt turn your skin green and make you superhuman in strength and durability!?

You mean to tell me that a lightning bolt wont make me a battery capable of discharging and storing millions of watts of electric current!?

Im sure you dont mean that me falling into radioactive waste wont make my brain abnormally large and better functioning, as well as turning my skin green!

SAY IT AINT SO!...

*cough* thats enough bitter sarcasm from me, fight on boys...

hahah, right on brother. If you are going to say that HUlk's strength increases infinitely, don't tell me its cause of adrenaline........ just say cause he gets more pissed off.... thats enough, cause once you cut science of the picture, you cut it out for good....