The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

[Rock Sexton]

It's my least favourite too. It was dark and reminiscent of lackluster final fights from lesser comic book movies.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah Hulk's punch stopped the leviathan and injured it but I think Iron Man's missiles are what finished it off.

Hulks punch stopped, and killled it. All IM missles did was blow up the tail to stop the shrapnel caused by Hulk's destruction from killing the Avengers, most notibly Cap, Hawkeye and BW, who were standing directly below it as it fell.

 

[BigThor]

Hulks punch stopped, and killled it. All IM missles did was blow up the tail to stop the shrapnel caused by Hulk's destruction from killing the Avengers, most notibly Cap, Hawkeye and BW, who were standing directly below it as it fell.

Honestly it wasn't that clear really, I say it's up the the viewers interpetation and I don't find it important enough debate.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah...o.k.

 

[jaqua99]

Yeah...o.k.

Its true though. Can you confirm that it was dead after Hulk punched it? No. No one said so. BUT can you confirm it was dead after stark shot it? Yep :P

 

[Golgo-13]

Please..it's obvious that Stark shot only the tail; and he shot the tail to prevent the falling debris from from landing on the team, hence his line "i got it"...or something as he saw BW Cap and Hawkeye looking up at it in horror. Since when does a tail shot kill anything of power? But a head shot...ala Hulks Punch and then smooshing into into the ground...well.......:P

 

[jaqua99]

Please..it's obvious that Stark shot only the tail; and he shot the tail to prevent the falling debris from from landing on the team, hence his line "i got it"...or something as he saw BW Cap and Hawkeye looking up at it in horror. Since when does a tail shot kill anything of power? But a head shot...ala Hulks Punch and then smooshing into into the ground...well.......:P

Lol the thing blew up into like 3 pieces after stark shot it. He definitely "killed" the damn thing.

But Im just messin with ya though, that was Hulk/Banner's scene, and it was suppose to be interpreted as Hulk killing it and such. I'm just being over analytical t:

 

[iTHANOS]

Why did Thor run away when the pilot started to shoot and Hulk just took it and wasnt even phased by it?? :S

 

[Franklin Richards]

Because when people shot at you, you move. I'm pretty invulnerable to paper footballs but I often move out of the way when one shoots my way.

You're not really suggesting that bullets hurt Thor, are you?

 

[Golgo-13]

Well didn't Loki suggest that They (he and Thor) aren't as Immortal as everyone thinks they are, hence why he sent Thor out of the hellicarrier in the cage meant for Hulk..?

And why are they known as demi-gods in the movie and not gods? Demi would suggest that they ARE indeed vunerable...

 

[Franklin Richards]

They are just leaving themselves some room.

 

[Tony Stark]

Well didn't Loki suggest that They (he and Thor) aren't as Immortal as everyone thinks they are, hence why he sent Thor out of the hellicarrier in the cage meant for Hulk..?

And why are they known as demi-gods in the movie and not gods? Demi would suggest that they ARE indeed vunerable...

No they aren't immortal and they weren't in the comics either. But I don't think Loki knew if it would kill him or not, he wanted to see.

Either way Thor survived a drop from 30,000 ft. that's pretty damn impressive.

 

[BigThor]

Well didn't Loki suggest that They (he and Thor) aren't as Immortal as everyone thinks they are, hence why he sent Thor out of the hellicarrier in the cage meant for Hulk..?

And why are they known as demi-gods in the movie and not gods? Demi would suggest that they ARE indeed vunerable...

Lol people sure are taking Stark's "demi god" comment to heart, they were also referred to actual gods more than once in the film.

Why did Thor run away when the pilot started to shoot and Hulk just took it and wasnt even phased by it?? :S

Because he's a warrior first and foremost, he's used to facing beings with weapons capable of harming him.

Hulk goes up against bullets and human weapons all the time while Thor doesn't.

Because when people shot at you, you move. I'm pretty invulnerable to paper footballs but I often move out of the way when one shoots my way.

You're not really suggesting that bullets hurt Thor, are you?

QFT

I don't know why so many people have a hard time understanding this concept.

 

[ken smith]

Thor is extremely more powerful than the Hulk. For some strange reason, Thor seemed a lot weaker in Avengers than he was in the Thor movie. Thor was clearly holding back because he was fighting in an environment where he could have caused destruction to the ship and hurt a lot of people in the process. Hulk only has strength but Thor on other hand have more powers including strength.

 

[Lady Marion]

I don't have a problem that Thor is holding back in TA more than in his own movie. He can't use all his powers at the Helicarrier without bringing the ship down. And New York isn't Jotunheim. Summon a tornado or an earthquake would have desastrous consequences. It makes sense for me.

 

[jaqua99]

ya. And by the way guys, I am about to upload that video I have been talking about, the entire Hulk and Thor fight, with no time in between.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I wouldnt do that.

 

[jaqua99]

I wouldnt do that.

And why is that? I already uploaded it as an unlisted video

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Thor is powerful than Hulk? I thought Hulk has no limits.

 

[jaqua99]

Thor is powerful than Hulk? I thought Hulk has no limits.

Its all a mess. Literally, the Hulk's strength is not limited. He is as strong as we have seen him. Stating that is strength INCREASE has no limmit is the case. Hulk is not infinity strong, which is what a lot of people seem to think based on words, its really, there is theoretically no limmit to what his strength can increase too. You can't get infinitely mad, it just doesn't make sense for it to happen. Hulk's strength can continue increasing, thats his thing, it can continue increasing based on anger. But he is not infinitely strong. He's not.

 

[BigThor]

Thor is powerful than Hulk? I thought Hulk has no limits.

That's just the "strength" department, Thor has other powers like cosmic level weather control, teleportation, opening portals etc.

Hulk is definately physically stronger, but that's not the only factor in overall "power" which Thor has in spades.

 

[Golgo-13]

ya. And by the way guys, I am about to upload that video I have been talking about, the entire Hulk and Thor fight, with no time in between.

Nice knowing ya........


I love how fans love to throw in the whole, 'he was holding back', 'he was pulling punches', etc to excuse their favorite fighters poor performance. I saw this in the Transformers 1 thread to justify Prime getting his ass kicked by Megatron. Every fighter has a bad day, no matter how good they are. Can't we just except the fact that on the day Hulk and Thor fought, the better man won...?

Lol people sure are taking Stark's "demi god" comment to heart, they were also referred to actual gods more than once in the film.

So i shouldn't take one to heart, yet regard the other one as fact? Why not then isn't it the other way rouund? I believe that BW is the one that refers to Thor and Loki as gods, but she is no more of an authority on Asgardians than anyone else in the film, including IM.

Well i think Loki's comment about them being immortal is much more substantial. If they both knew they were indeed immortal then there'd be no reason to bring it up to Thor. Thor obviously looked concerned before Loki dropped him.

 

[Tony Stark]

That's just the "strength" department, Thor has other powers like cosmic level weather control, teleportation, opening portals etc.

Hulk is definately physically stronger, but that's not the only factor in overall "power" which Thor has in spades.

Yeah it pisses me off when writers are so freaking lazy that they put it all down to brute strength. If you look at Marvel's official ratings Thor and Hulk are both at the top of the scale, but Thor has way higher ratings on his fighting skills, because he's a warrior. Hulk is strong, but he can't strategize, he just beats the crap out of stuff.

That's why I love the Thor v. Iron Man fight. Thor is way more powerful than Tony but Tony is able to use his brains to stay in the fight (well that and the fact that Thor or Tony had no idea that lightning would charge his power reserves to 400%)

 

[Perfect Cell]

Nice knowing ya........


I love how fans love to throw in the whole, 'he was holding back', 'he was pulling punches', etc to excuse their favorite fighters poor performance. I saw this in the Transformers 1 thread to justify Prime getting his ass kicked by Megatron. Every fighter has a bad day, no matter how good they are. Can't we just except the fact that on the day Hulk and Thor fought, the better man won...?




So i shouldn't take one to heart, yet regard the other one as fact? Why not then isn't it the other way rouund? I believe that BW is the one that refers to Thor and Loki as gods, but she is no more of an authority on Asgardians than anyone else in the film, including IM.

Well i think Loki's comment about them being immortal is much more substantial. If they both knew they were indeed immortal then there'd be no reason to bring it up to Thor. Thor obviously looked concerned before Loki dropped him.

Perhaps not, but the usage of the word "demi-god" when describing Thor is simply incorrect. A demi-god is someone who has one god parent, and one mortal or human parent. That's not Thor. They never established who Thor's mother is in the MCU, whether it be Frigga, as implied, or Gaea, as in the comics. However, there's no reason to assume Thor has a human mother. His father is Odin, and his mother is likely another god. Hence, Thor cannot be a demi-god, just based on the meaning of the word itself.

Hercules is by far the most famous example of a demi-god, being the son of Zeus and a mortal woman. The most commonly used definition of the word literally is "half God", as in, one God parent. I don't know why anyone would take Stark's flippant remark designed to get Loki angry as proof of Thor being weaker.

 

[BigThor]

Nice knowing ya........


I love how fans love to throw in the whole, 'he was holding back', 'he was pulling punches', etc to excuse their favorite fighters poor performance. I saw this in the Transformers 1 thread to justify Prime getting his ass kicked by Megatron. Every fighter has a bad day, no matter how good they are. Can't we just except the fact that on the day Hulk and Thor fought, the better man won...?

Except for the fact that Thor didn't give a bad performance in the least and no one technically "won" it's all opinion.

Besides, it's pretty reasonable to assume that Thor was holding back power-size simply because he was in the helicarrier. That's why he didn't summon lighting, tornadoes, or strike the ground like he did in Jotunheim, it's common sense really.

So i shouldn't take one to heart, yet regard the other one as fact? Why not then isn't it the other way rouund? I believe that BW is the one that refers to Thor and Loki as gods, but she is no more of an authority on Asgardians than anyone else in the film, including IM.

Well i think Loki's comment about them being immortal is much more substantial. If they both knew they were indeed immortal then there'd be no reason to bring it up to Thor. Thor obviously looked concerned before Loki dropped him.

Loki and Thor aren't immortal in the comics either, so does that make them
demi-gods" there too?

Fury also referred to Thor as a "god" and I'm pretty sure he's alot more informed than Stark who was just being flippant.