The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

[BigThor]

Watch again, IM evades him at least two or three times. It was a very good fight because Tony knew he couldn't match his strength so he uses speed, repulsors, and momentum to fight him and lands some good blows.

Nope I don't have too, I've seen that fight about 4 times and that was the only time IM evaded Thor.

But yeah, Iron Man definately used his repulsors and maneuverability to stay in the game.

To me it looked like HULK was throwing around Thor pretty well by the time they got to level 5... when the jet started shooting at them. Everyone was obviously more concerned about the level of damage HULK could cause over Thor, but this would be a great fight! The fact that they are team-mates is much more relevant to me... How are the Avengers going to hold up against Thanos seems more relevant! Especially if he gets his hands on the Infinity Gauntlet.

Thor recovered pretty quickly though, plus their concern with Hulk had more to due with his "uncontrollable" nature than being more powerful.

 

[Dr. Horrible]

Thor! He can control his powers better and he has an actual weapon, plus he's a god.

 

[Fifthchild]

What's there to be frustrated about? At no point was he in any real danger. He was most definitely angered that this "metal man" (as he put it) was getting in the way of he and Loki. His anger was most clearly put on display when Cap interrupted and Thor yelled at him "You want me to put the hammer down???" He then sent IM flying and attacked Cap.

He was getting frustrated for the same reason that you say he was getting angered. He was trying to put IM down but IM proved to be an annoyingly persistent and resourceful foe. Nowhere does being frustrated imply that you are in mortal danger and i'm not sure why you see such a huge gulf between me saying IM was frustrating Thor and you saying he was angering him. His frustration is especially obvious in that scene where he goes for the big finishing hit only to end up hitting the dirt.

 

[BigThor]

He was getting frustrated for the same reason that you say he was getting angered. He was trying to put IM down but IM proved to be an annoyingly persistent and resourceful foe. Nowhere does being frustrated imply that you are in mortal danger and i'm not sure why you see such a huge gulf between me saying IM was frustrating Thor and you saying he was angering him. His frustration is especially obvious in that scene where he goes for the big finishing hit only to end up hitting the dirt.

Thor falling down in that scene was kind of stupid, Thor wasn't even on top of IM so why did he fall?

 

[Rock Sexton]

He was getting frustrated for the same reason that you say he was getting angered. He was trying to put IM down but IM proved to be an annoyingly persistent and resourceful foe. Nowhere does being frustrated imply that you are in mortal danger and i'm not sure why you see such a huge gulf between me saying IM was frustrating Thor and you saying he was angering him. His frustration is especially obvious in that scene where he goes for the big finishing hit only to end up hitting the dirt.

Because frustration means he's getting the best of him, which isn't the case. When Thor squeezing his metal with that intense look on his face - that's anger baby.

 

[Fifthchild]

Because frustration means he's getting the best of him, which isn't the case. When Thor squeezing his metal with that intense look on his face - that's anger baby.

OK i think we are getting to the core of things here. Thor getting frustrated during his battle with Iron Man doesn't mean Iron Man was beating Thor. For all Tony's moves and resourcefulness and power eventually he was going to be left in a non-functional suit while Thor wasn't notably dinged up. However until that happened he was increasingly annoying/frustrating the hell out of Thor. I dont think we are actually in any fundamental disagreement here.

 

[Fifthchild]

Thor falling down in that scene was kind of stupid, Thor wasn't even on top of IM so why did he fall?

It was a bit of a stretch. The idea was i suppose that he went for such a big hit and when Stark wasn't there anymore the lack of resistance unbalanced him. Physics are always a bit funny in comics and films so prob not worth thinking about it too much.

 

[Rock Sexton]

It was a bit of a stretch. The idea was i suppose that he went for such a big hit and when Stark wasn't there anymore the lack of resistance unbalanced him. Physics are always a bit funny in comics and films so prob not worth thinking about it too much.

Unless it was caused by the repulsors ..... but ya it looks kind of funny because he didn't swing hard enough to have caused him to fall off balance like that.

 

[Tony Stark]

OK i think we are getting to the core of things here. Thor getting frustrated during his battle with Iron Man doesn't mean Iron Man was beating Thor. For all Tony's moves and resourcefulness and power eventually he was going to be left in a non-functional suit while Thor wasn't notably dinged up. However until that happened he was increasingly annoying/frustrating the hell out of Thor. I dont think we are actually in any fundamental disagreement here.

yeah that's pretty much it. What amazed me is it really shows you how resourceful Tony is that he could go toe to toe with Thor like that. What Thor didn't know (and Tony didn't know either) was shooting lightning at him was totally ineffective and made matters worse for that matter.

You also have to keep in mind that the ARC reactor is in part based on Asguardian technology. i.e. Howard Stark finds the Tesseract, develops the ARC reactor, but does not have the technology to make it work. Tony finishes the job and miniaturizes it. Tony's repulsors were very effective against Thor and Loki and the Chitauri.

 

[jaqua99]

Because frustration means he's getting the best of him, which isn't the case. When Thor squeezing his metal with that intense look on his face - that's anger baby.

Really? To me that was more of a "yeah thats's right" type of look.

 

[BigThor]

yeah that's pretty much it. What amazed me is it really shows you how resourceful Tony is that he could go toe to toe with Thor like that. What Thor didn't know (and Tony didn't know either) was shooting lightning at him was totally ineffective and made matters worse for that matter.

You also have to keep in mind that the ARC reactor is in part based on Asguardian technology. i.e. Howard Stark finds the Tesseract, develops the ARC reactor, but does not have the technology to make it work. Tony finishes the job and miniaturizes it. Tony's repulsors were very effective against Thor and Loki and the Chitauri.

I think RDJ's imput was the reason IM gave Thor a good fight, because in one interview he said "I read the script and I was like why is he kicking my ass so much".

 

[Bren]

Imo, if that was the case, then I'm glad RDJ had the change done. It's clear Thor was more powerful, but also that Iron Man is very clever and resourceful...

 

[BigThor]

I would've liked for Cap to intervene when IM was on the ground and Thor had Mjolnir raised, but other than that I was pretty satisfied.

 

[Bren]

True BT, would have been cooler to have had IM 'saved' at the end.

 

[BigThor]

True BT, would have been cooler to have had IM 'saved' at the end.

Yeah that's pretty much the only thing I would've changed about that fight, but I doubt RDJ would let that fly.

 

[jaqua99]

Thor falling down in that scene was kind of stupid, Thor wasn't even on top of IM so why did he fall?

Ironman definitely tripped him. Did he not? He flew into thors feet, tripping him.

 

[jaqua99]

yeah that's pretty much it. What amazed me is it really shows you how resourceful Tony is that he could go toe to toe with Thor like that. What Thor didn't know (and Tony didn't know either) was shooting lightning at him was totally ineffective and made matters worse for that matter.

You also have to keep in mind that the ARC reactor is in part based on Asguardian technology. i.e. Howard Stark finds the Tesseract, develops the ARC reactor, but does not have the technology to make it work. Tony finishes the job and miniaturizes it. Tony's repulsors were very effective against Thor and Loki and the Chitauri.

Lol I didn't think tony was able to go toe to toe with Thor. Thor clearly had the upper hand, he was just fighting, we've seen him strike hulk much harder, which leads one to believe that Thor was holding back a decent amount against ironman. Thor staggered. Hulk with his punches, sent Hulk flying with hammer. However, Thor's punches did not stagger Ironman, just turned his head. And there is no way in hell ironman is more durable than Hulk. Not by a long shot. This aside, and the fact that when Thor and Ironman did go fist to fist, Thor had a huge advantage, I wouldn't exactly say Ironman could go toe to toe with Thor, in fact, their fight seemed to prove the opposite

 

[BigThor]

Ironman definitely tripped him. Did he not? He flew into thors feet, tripping him.

Did he really? I never could tell since it was from a very hard to see angle.

Lol I didn't think tony was able to go toe to toe with Thor. Thor clearly had the upper hand, he was just fighting, we've seen him strike hulk much harder, which leads one to believe that Thor was holding back a decent amount against ironman. Thor staggered. Hulk with his punches, sent Hulk flying with hammer. However, Thor's punches did not stagger Ironman, just turned his head. And there is no way in hell ironman is more durable than Hulk. Not by a long shot. This aside, and the fact that when Thor and Ironman did go fist to fist, Thor had a huge advantage, I wouldn't exactly say Ironman could go toe to toe with Thor, in fact, their fight seemed to prove the opposite

Yeah eventually Thor was gonna land a solid blow with Mjolnir and it was gonne be "lights outs".

Although his first punch only turned IM's head, Thor did make IM hit the ground after a body blow and a downward punch to the head.

 

[Golgo-13]

Thor and Loki seemed equally strengthed during their fight. Since Hulk made mince meat out of Loki, isn't it safe to assume that he could do the same to Thor? I just got back from seeing this a 4th time, and Hulk was ownig Thors ass during the latter part of the Helicarrier fight. It is safe to assume that if the pilot hadn't showed up, Thor's goose would have been cooked.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Thor and Loki seemed equally strengthed during their fight. Since Hulk made mince meat out of Loki, isn't it safe to assume that he could do the same to Thor? I just got back from seeing this a 4th time, and Hulk was ownig Thors ass during the latter part of the Helicarrier fight. It is safe to assume that if the pilot hadn't showed up, Thor's goose would have been cooked.

Would you like some matches to along with the kerosene?

 

[BigThor]

Thor and Loki seemed equally strengthed during their fight. Since Hulk made mince meat out of Loki, isn't it safe to assume that he could do the same to Thor? I just got back from seeing this a 4th time, and Hulk was ownig Thors ass during the latter part of the Helicarrier fight. It is safe to assume that if the pilot hadn't showed up, Thor's goose would have been cooked.

Lmao

 

[Golgo-13]

I don't see why i can't voice my opinion on the matter. I like both characters, and what i saw on screen was unbias. The latter part of that fight, Thor was getting roughed up. He was bloody for christ sake. This is on par with the fact that the longer the fight went on, the stronger Hulk got.

 

[Bren]

You know, I think we can disregard the idea that Thor didn't use lightning against the Hulk in the Helicarrier because of fear of causing deaths/damage etc.

After seeing it charge up IM 400%, he was thinking WTF is it going to do to this guy?!?!?!?!





*obviously kidding*

 

[BigThor]

I don't see why i can't voice my opinion on the matter. I like both characters, and what i saw on screen was unbias. The latter part of that fight, Thor was getting roughed up. He was bloody for christ sake. This is on par with the fact that the longer the fight went on, the stronger Hulk got.

Yeah....except for the fact that Thor got that "barely visible" bloody nose at the beginning of the fight.

He sure wasn't hurt from being thrown into some boxes , remember we're talking about a guy who survived a 30,000 ft drop.

 

[Venomfan]

once Thor got serious in his fight with loki, after being stabbed, he started throwing him around just like the hulk did