Hype Survivor Hype Survivor 29: Team Edward vs Team Jacob - Day 15: Lets Get Angsty!

For Matt and Hunter's viewing pleasure in the Survivor 7's Harmony Hut...

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Batman & Robin
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Stardust
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I like Spider-Man 3 :csad:

I might join them when they watch that and then leave :oldrazz:
 
I would also like to add Steel, Starship Troopers 3, Dragonball: Evolution, and Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li to the hut's viewing pleasure :word:
 
due to the lag, they've yet to be sent even to the judges. I'm waiting for one to respond.
 
You don't have the testicles

Damn it Matt, I want results. I'm cheering on my super mega best friend Powder :csad:

Heh, :) I appreciate that but with some superior writers in this group I doubt I will have a chance to win this challenge.
 
Lamesauce

Give them to me, I promise to only be slightly biased against the bastards that voted me out :awesome::up:

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Reviews are with the judges. :yay: For the sake of fun. Lets go ahead and post the reviews now to give us something to read while we wait.

Spider-Fan said:
Romance is the center of many popular franchises and films. Raimi's Spider-Man films were “All about a girl.” Titanic became the biggest movie ever at the time by giving us a doomed romance on the ship of dreams. Many of the greatest works of fiction, music, poetry, etc have all stemmed from the feeling of love. However, the Twilight films are a giant skid mark on the underpants of love. These films are nothing but the result of the growing EMO population of society. Not only are these films horrendous portrayals of one of man's most interesting curiosities, these are just lousy films in every possible way imaginable.

What makes a romance work in large part is not necessarily the story, but the chemistry between the characters. In film, you need to be able to feel a connection and see the attraction. If the center of every great romance is the characters, Twilight fails miserably. Chemistry is built based on how actors interact with one another. However, chemistry is hard to build when you have no acting going on. I don't know what Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are doing in these films, but it isn't acting. Acting is about simulating emotions and making fictional characters believable. Not staring off into space like a confused stoner. Every emotion Edward tries to convey comes off as forced and fake. As does Kristen Stewart. As does Taylor Lautner. As does this entire cast. Instead of spending money on glorified models, the filmmakers should have invested in real actors.

Edward Cullen is the most boring protagonist in the history of protagonists. He is the penultimate EMO male, as seen in Superman Returns and Anakin from the Star Wars prequels: clingy, over protective, and creepy. Like these great examples of unmanly men, he watches Bella in her sleep, just randomly pops into her room when he pleases (which is a persisting problem in both films), says creepy things, etc. My favorite line of the ever charming Edward has to be when he says you shouldn't have said I'm not scared of you, mid laugh no less. Because nothing says must have guy then telling your woman first hand that you should be scared of them. Real winner here Bella. I understand he is from a different time and charmingly doesn't talk like us, but even in the old days, I'd have to rate this as creepy. The creepiness doesn't stop there! He later wants to kill himself for shoving Bella upon seeing some blood and to protect her. Where does this logic work? You had to protect her from the James gang of idiots in the first film, Victoria still wants her dead, and now you want to just leave to “protect her?” This logic is complete crap. How can you protect someone if you're not there when there is a threat? This makes ZERO sense! Now, had they been honest and said it is because he is a coward, then we'd have real life logic injected into this idiocy.

Between the absurd dialogue, bad writing of how the romance plays out, and horrendous acting by Robert Pattinson, I feel like George Lucas made this film. You can just put Edward into the Star Wars prequels, and he is the same character as Anakin Skywalker. Do women like this type of man? I thought women liked dominant men or men who somehow brought out the best in them. Not a guy who clings to you like an extra limb and does the creepiest things in order to obtain your affection. According to these films, I've been approaching women the wrong way.

But my biggest question of these movies has to be why does ANYONE love Bella? Seriously, she is the most whiny and pathetic person I've ever seen. That montage of her just sitting in her room as seasons change around her is just utterly pathetic. All she does is sit around, refuse to open up to anyone, and whine. How could anyone stand to be around her for more than 5 minutes, let alone a vampire and shape shifter? You'd think if you were a vampire or could turn into a wolf, you'd be able to meet people easy. I mean, I can't turn into a wolf. I don't suck blood. If you can, you'd be instantly more interesting than me. Why do these people settle for such a useless woman? Edward might be creepy, but Bella is equally creepy. Every time Edward says or does something creepy and stupid, she swoons. This woman gets so distraught Edward left, that she does dangerous crap to induce adrenaline rushes so she can see him as a hallucination, an example being driving a motorcycle she can't drive. Seriously woman, under what line of thinking are you operating on? How does seeing a hallucination make you any closer to him? It just makes you an over dramatic moron! Do we honestly want to raise a generation of children that has no personality, sit around like lazy couch potatoes, and swoon for any loser who shows them an ounce of affection? This is exactly the kind of romance Twilight and many newer films for the teenage audience are glorifying.

But of course, no cliche romance is complete without the OTHER guy! Enter Jacob, the shirtless wonder. Seriously, if I made a drinking game out of how many times he has no shirt on, I think I'd die of alcohol poisoning. While not that prominent in the first film, Jacob becomes more prominent when Edward leaves Bella in New Moon. Jacob, as a character, I feel is definitely written in a more appealing manner than Edward. Don't get me wrong, Jacob is creepy in his own right. He is hot-headed and throws himself at Bella, despite being caught in the eternal death trap that is the friend zone, but at least he is up front with her and doesn't parade around like a creepy stalker who is caught up in his own internal “feelings.” Plus, he actually saved you from Victoria! Unlike the jerk who left you in order to “protect you.” I'm sorry, but he seems more reliable to me. This character could have been a redeeming part of the film, if it wasn't for Taylor Lautner! He is not an actor, and was clearly chosen so teenage girls could stare at his pecks and abs when he has no shirt on. There is no other reason to hire this pathetic excuse for an actor. He's about as talented at acting as a cripple would be at being a ninja. He makes all the attributes that make him a stronger character than Edward null and void. Not even just when he talks, but when he tries to convey any type of movement past just being on the screen.

Speaking of fake and forced, let's talk about the special effects! The special effects in these movies are beyond awful. Looking at the effects, I can tell they made 3 of these films in 2 years. The CGI in these movies look worse than things I've seen in video games. This is more apparent in New Moon than in the first film since New Moon had bigger action sequences, but it is a persisting problem with the series. The industry is in part to blame for this because instead of working on efficient methods to make things in films look real in films anymore, computers are the default answer. Now, I can see CGI for when someone changes into a wolf. But, even the wolves look like computer images. Are you telling me that it was cheaper to super impose a terrible looking wolf into the film than working with real trained wolves? If the wolves looked halfway decent, this wouldn't be a problem. CGI characters are used all the time in films, but this is possibly the worst I've seen. Draco in Dragonheart looked more real, and that was the 90's! This is 2010, when CGI has greatly advanced. Any scene were a character does a long leap is also embarrassing. They ruin the believability of any action sequence. When you're getting special effects like in Avatar now, the off looking jumps, wolves, and fighting that we saw in the infancy of CGI in the early 2000's are no longer good enough.

Despite lacking anything resulting in entertainment value, the Twilight series continues to make money. For reasons that baffle me, women all over have been sucked into this poor excuse for a romance and continue to drive solid box office numbers. Films normally reflect the values and way of life of the people in that era, and if the Twilight series is any indication on the values of the growing generation of the population are, then the future of humanity is a sad and lonely bunch of people who will strive for mediocrity in life and in cinema. If this is the case, perhaps we have seen the twilight of humanity.

Marx said:
The Twilight Saga is a series of movies based on books written by Stephenie Meyer - a woman who has completely rewritten the world of werewolves and vampires to further her own story. In Meyer’s world, vampires are not affected by sunlight, crosses, holy water, or even stakes through the heart. In fact, the only way to kill Meyer’s vampires is to tear them apart and burn all of the remains. (Yes, you read that correctly.)

In the first movie, appropriately named Twilight, we are introduced to Bella Swan (played by Kristen Stewart) - a mumbling, mopey, depressed outcast who moves from Arizona to Washington State to be with her father after her mother remarries and to finish her high school career. The high school is your typical high school with typical cliques and typical melodramatic teen angst. Upon starting high school, Bella meets Edward Cullen (an undercover vampire who doesn’t drink human blood played by Robert Pattinson, who seems to have gotten the part because of his looks and not his acting ability). From the moment Edward sees Bella, he stares at her angrily. (Which is creepy and laughable at the same time given Pattinson’s expression.) Fittingly enough, Bella is assigned to be Edward’s lab partner in Biology class. (An assignment that she feels will give her an opportunity to confront Edward about his glares.) However, she doesn’t get the chance to confront him because he is absent from school for the next several days after their first day together in class. When Edward does return to school, he acts completely different. He introduces himself to Bella and even attempts to make small talk. (A conversation that is very odd, in large part due to the writing of the scene.) Later on, Bella is saved by Edward in the high school parking lot when he stops a car from slamming right into her. They talk briefly after the incident but ultimately leads to Edward walking off awkwardly again.

Bella ends up going to an indian reservation where she was supposed to have met Edward for a date, but he never shows up. Enter Jacob Black (a werewolf played by Taylor Lautner). Bella and Jacob talk at the reservation about Edward. Jacob goes into a convoluted story about how the Cullen’s do not come to the reservation because of an ‘urban legend’. (The people of the reservation descended from wolves and the Cullen’s descended from an opposing clan.) Apparently, some kind of pact was made between the two groups that prevented the Cullen’s from coming onto the reservation. To make the long story short, Bella ends up going to a bookstore to research the legend. She finds a story about ‘The Cold One’ and decides to discuss her findings with Edward the next day. In their meeting, Edward doesn’t deny any of the story. He actually decides that he wants to show her proof. He then asks Bella to climb onto his back and he runs up to the top of a mountain with her. It is there that he steps into the sun to reveal that his skin sparkles in the sun. Yes, you read that right - this vampire SPARKLES in the sun! He doesn’t burst into flames as any other vampire would, he sparkles. On top of that, he comes out to Bella as a ‘vampire who only drinks animal blood’, but admits that he cannot stop craving Bella’s human blood. Instead, of being terrified by Edward’s confession, Bella is turned on and keeps repeating that she isn’t afraid. He then agrees to take her to meet the family.

After that, we are taken to a baseball game in the rain where ‘rogue’ vampires show up, ‘catch’ Bella’s scent, and fight with the Cullen’s. After the confrontation, Edward decides that the best thing for he and Bella to do is run away together. Predictably, Bella says that she has to return home to pack first and all hell breaks loose as the ‘rogue’ vampires have tracked her to the house. They all get into a big fight and Bella ends up getting bitten by one of the ‘rogues’ causing her to bleed severely and become infected with ‘vampire venom’. Instead of letting Bella turn into a vampire, Edward decides to suck the venom out of her.

The movie then jumps to a hospital scene in which Bella awakens to find Edward asleep in a chair nearby and her mother next to her. She feigns ignorance about what happened and came up with a story about falling down the stairs and flying through a window. (Sounds believable enough, right?)

After her release from the hospital, the movie ends with Bella attending a dance with Edward, where they end up dancing and kissing in a gazebo.

Which brings us to the sequel – Twilight: New Moon.

The sequel picks up right where the original left off and almost seems to mock itself. It begins with a voiceover from Bella (again played by Kristen Stewart) reciting ‘Romeo and Juliet’, which turns out to be a nightmare that she is having. After a brief conversation with her father, she leaves for school.

Once there, she sees Edward pull into the parking lot and walk over from his brand new Volvo. (Which is seemingly shot as a slow-motion sequence for dramatic effect?) Edward and Bella then begin to kiss and he breaks away to get to class. Enter Jacob (who is now a stereotypical meat-head). He comes over to Bella to give her a birthday present – a dream catcher – which obviously makes Edward jealous.

After a cheesy scene of Edward and Bella talking about ‘Romeo and Juliet’ in class, they go to a birthday party at the Cullen’s house. Once there, Bella finds a picture of the ‘Volturi’, which Edward says is a basically a supreme race of vampires. After a brief conversation (and Bella discovering that Edward doesn’t have a bed ‘because he never sleeps’), they go into the main room of the house for the party where she ends up getting a paper cut (yes, a paper cut) that drives all of the Cullen’s into a frenzy – particularly Edward. He ends up driving her home in her truck and he kisses her goodbye.

The next day, Edward comes over to Bella’s house after school to explain that he and his family are leaving town. (That’s right, she continues to be a target of the ‘rogue’ vampires, and her ‘protector’ is leaving.) He tells Bella that she doesn’t belong in his world and that she isn’t good for him, which obviously devastates her. We then see a sad montage scene of ‘her devastation’ as she stays depressed in her room with the season’s visibly changing outside the window and another scene of her ‘acting like a rebel’ that results in seeing a vision of Edward.

With Edward gone, Bella decides to give Jacob another try. (Who is shirtless for the large majority of the movie.) She brings him two motorcycles thinking that they can fix them together, which they do. They then decide to take the motorcycles out for a ride and Bella ends up crashing so she can ‘see Edward again’. Cut to Jacob racing down the street toward Bella, ripping his shirt off, and telling her ‘you’re kind of beautiful’ or something like that. (All I know is that it had me rolling my eyes.)

After a couple of insignificant scenes at the school and a movie theater, we see Bella frantically trying to contact Edward and then deciding to confront Jacob about the ‘wolf sightings’. Jacob has since cut off his hair, gotten a tattoo, gained an attitude, and is walking around shirtless (again) in the rain when Bella arrives. Instead of asking Bella to stay, he pushes her away and acts like he wants nothing to do with her. To make the long story short, he says that he knows the Cullen’s are vampires and it freaks Bella out…so she leaves.

Bella ends up being confronted by a vampire and Edward’s image appears again telling her to lie about what she knows. As the vampire prepares to attack, a giant wolf (who looks more like a cuddly dog than a vicious werewolf) appears out of nowhere to save Bella. Other wolves soon arrive to chase the vampire away. As the last wolf leaves, it turns around to look at Bella. (Dramatic pause.)

Later that night, Bella is shown in her room and is quickly distracted by rocks hitting her window. Once at the window, she looks toward the ground and sees Jacob standing there. (Once again, shirtless.) He then jumps up to the window after bouncing off of the wall of the house and flipping around a tree branch. (This is another one of those scenes that is unintentionally funny because of the execution.) He wants to explain what is going on, but doesn’t, and instead asks her to leave town.

The next day, Bella goes over to Jacob’s house to talk to him but is told that he isn’t there. She doesn’t believe the person who opens the door so she runs upstairs and breaks into Jacob’s bedroom to find him asleep in bed. (You guessed it, he’s shirtless again.) After finding Jacob, she ends up leaving the house which leads to a confrontation with a group of people leaving the woods and slaps one of them causing him to turn into a wolf. As the wolf prepares to attack Bella, Jacob emerges from the house and changes into a wolf in mid-air and fights off the other wolf. (This was actually a neat scene…one of the few in the movie.)

Throughout the rest of the movie, Bella and Jacob continue to bicker culminating in a missed phone call by Edward to Bella. Jacob leads Edward to believe that Bella has died which causes Edward to travel to Italy to visit with the Volturi (one of which is played a very creepy Dakota Fanning) to take his own life. Needless to say, Bella is furious and leaves with Edward’s sister to go to Italy and stop him. Ultimately, Edward’s petition to die is denied by the Volturi and Edward (predictably) is allowed to leave with Bella. (This is also the scene where Edward removes his shirt, walks out onto the promenade of the Volturi’s building and attempts to out himself to the world as a vampire by sparkling in the sun. Yes, sparkling.) They end up clearing the air about everything that has happened, and eventually come to an understanding. Stateside, Edward is shown driving Bella back home but is stopped by Jacob standing in the middle of the road. They engage in the typical love-triangle quarrel that ends with Bella choosing Edward and Jacob left wandering further into the woods and the movie mercifully ends. (After a proposal from Edward to Bella of course.)

To be perfectly honest, I’m not quite sure how well the books are written, but the movies are flat out horrible. The story is all over the place, the acting is bad, and the script is poorly written. There are many times in these movies where scenes are unintentionally funny because of such a poor standard that has been set. Bella is an incredibly weak heroine and has no chemistry with Edward whatsoever. Add to that, Jacob, who looks like he’s posing for a fitness magazine every single time that he is on screen and you’ve got a series of movies that are full of cheese and corn.

The bottom line – if you are not in the very specifically targeted audience that these movies cater to, you’ll quickly find yourself looking for the exit or the off-button.
 
POWdER-Man said:
Do you have a desire to watch four hours of teenage yearning and buff, shirtless guys? Then these movies are for you! If you are anything like me, you know…over 15 years old, a guy and mentally stable, these movies are most definitely not for you.

Of course, does it matter what I say? Does it matter what anyone says about the Twilight series? Considering the films’ Box Office numbers, it will most likely not change any Twilight fan’s opinion.

The first Twilight movie has many problems, including the horrible chemistry between the two main characters, but is slightly tolerable to watch than the second installment, New Moon.

Aside from the main issues, Twilight goes a bit heavy on the makeup at times. I busted into laughter at the first sight of Edward’s vampire “father,” who wears such a thick amount of ghoulish white face paint he looks like he crashed into a cream pie.

The film lays it on thick in other areas, such as the constant bombardment of music and the many close-ups of suffering vampire eyes. And some of the more cartoonish acrobatic CG stunts look plain ridiculous.

Along with angsty rock music, horrible camerawork and emo-like behavior, Bella’s decision to get with a vampire simply comes across as merely stupid and ill-considered.

The visual effects, used to show the vampires’ super human strength, agility and resistance to gravity are cheesy at best and fail to look convincing.
From a filmmaking point of view, New Moon represents an upgrade over the first movie, which all too often felt substandard. This film can at least boast the look and feel of a real Hollywood movie and not some straight to video feel the first movie conveyed.

HOWEVER, where the film falters is in its porous plotting and sluggish pacing. Bella was separated from her vampire boyfriend, Edward at the outset, with the bulk of the film devoted to Bella coping with the loss of her goth James Dean. Edward lingers throughout New Moon's first part, strutting around in slow motion and uttering lines like “Bella, you give me everything just by breathing”.

New Moon, with its characters, is all about longing: Bella longing for Edward; Jacob longing for Bella; me longing for it to be over. The film teases us with menacing talk of a looming war between the vampires and werewolves, but it’s just that - talk.

The first film was bearable, but the sequel borrows more from it than creates anything new and doesn’t do much with it. Aside from the “will they or won’t they” aspect of finding silly ways to keep the main characters apart, better man Jacob should recognize Bella as damaged goods by now and let the vampires eat her.

One thing that seems to haunt these films are the two dimensional characterizations. Choose any character and it seems like they have one expression stuck to their face. Bella? Sullen. Jacob? Hopeful. Alice? Twisted. Only Edward himself seems to have more than one look, either “emo, about to cry” Edward or that “I’m so cool, you silly human” Edward smirk.

Edward Cullen (aka the lamest vampire ever), spends much of the film's running time off-screen. His character breaks up early on with Bella to protect her, and journeys off somewhere to pout. Yes, rather than hang around and protect her with his super vampire powers, he's got to go off and be all emo-sad. Plus don’t get me started on the repeated appearances of him to her in the form of a distractingly cheesy, Obi-Wan Kenobi-like apparition.

I consider this plot development a blessing, because Edwards's "I love you, but I still want to suck your blood ... blah, blah, blah!" routine got tired in the first 15 minutes of the original film. In the little time that he's around in this one, he's in mega-sulk mode, and the pale-face makeup and hairdo make him look like some sort of anemic hipster clown.

In the end, these movies aren't really about vampires and werewolves at all. It's about a teenager with serious issues who can't be left alone for a god damn minute. As soon as Edward leaves, Bella is clinging to Jacob. When Edward comes back, Jacob is left behind, yet Bella still loves him and needs him. When both are away, she sits in a chair and mopes. Seriously: There's a scene in which Bella watches the seasons pass through a picture window as she sits in a half-comatose state.

One must also ask, “What the heck is going on with Bella’s hysterical love spasms?” Many of us have experienced that painful emotion and desire of love that affects us physically, but she plays it like she has dysentery.

Michael Sheen shows up near the end as some type of ancient vampire king, and you'll find yourself wishing the whole movie were about him, because he's actually (somewhat) cool and would be (somewhat) worth the price of admission. Of course if you want to see some cool vampires you only need to go to your local video store and pick up a copy of Lost Boys. You will thank me later if you never seen it before, and if you have than you already know what I am talking about. Dakota Fanning also shows up near the end as another vampire and you'll find yourself thankful that whole movie isn't about her, because she's creepy in a way that doesn't improve the movie.

Must we also forget the “subtle” references to Romeo and Juliet (in case you don’t see the suicide parallel), for instance Bella reading a copy of Romeo and Juliet, or Bella watching the movie Romeo and Juliet in class. I think it is somewhere between the 12th or 13th reference when I realized this is what they were hinting at. I can be slow at times, or maybe I was dulled into a stupor by the energy-sucking black hole that is the Bella-Edward combo.

If you are looking for your Chick-Flick fill, I would recommend just about any other film over this movie. Pretty in Pink, Girls just Want to Have Fun, Love Actually, Notting Hill, Never been Kissed, Mean Girls, Step Mom, Pretty Woman, My Best Friend’s Wedding…hell I would even sit through 100 showings of Titanic in a row before I ever decide to watch these films again. Actually that is being generous, I would watch Titanic until I decide to sing my own rendition to Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On. Which you can only imagine would never happen.

In the end this movie franchise will certainly appeal to its target audience. For everyone else who has to sit through it, expect a poorly structured and paced plot, poorly executed CGI and characters that are unlikeable and annoying, despite the fact we should be rooting for them. Don’t worry it will end…eventually.

Ahura Mazda said:
First off, I should state that I do not enjoy these movies and if it was not for this challenge, I would not see them.

The twilight saga in the movie verse was meant to appeal to as large an audience as possible. They adapted a romantic teen drama and included a small amount of fantasy (By small amount, it is like the sprinkling of basil leaves to a pasta dish to enhance the flavour). The question is whether they achieved their goal and it is evident they did. My personal feelings aside, they have created box office success not to mention additional revenue streams coming from ancillary products.

The story itself can be broken down in two main parts. You have the classic love triangle and the vampire vs vampire vs werewolves story. The love triangle set into the teen world and using two good looking men as the candidates for the love of the female tends to attract a large female audience which includes a certain amount of men (Beyond those men who enjoy such a story, you also have those which have no choice but see it with their loved ones if they want things to go smoothly at home). Whether this love triangle is well constructed is questionable. The story involves a female who moves to a small town near the woods and she meets a mysterious looking teenager (Edward). Of course she falls in love with him but when he disappears she starts having feelings for her childhood friend who has always been loyal to her (Jacob). This is one of the most classic love triangles to exist. It is a love triangle where most of the younger female audience can relate to, as they will meet new boys in schools as they progress and still often have childhood friends. There is an age old conflict there that has been portrayed many times. It is looking for someone new relative to sticking to what you know. It is instability versus stability. The love triangle is not questionable and is a classic tale retold. However, there is a discrepancy in my statement as they had made the childhood friend into something ‘unexpected’.

The added twist is that the mysterious boy is a “vampire” representing the new and unstable and the childhood friend ends up being a werewolf even if he represents what she knew (which ends up interesting her more when he ends up having a mysterious side to himself.). This part of the story is meant to attract the male audience who is interested in fantasy action pictures. Of course, the marketing worked better before people saw the second picture which targeted heavily the female audience. The story behind the romantic triangle is one which evolves from dissident ‘evil’ vampires fighting vampires who have ‘conformed’ to society. Of course, Edward has conformed and does not eat human blood unlike the vampire villains who do. They have made a vampire into a likeable guy; a tendency seen more and more in media with TV shows like True Blood. There is also conflict which arises in the second film with werewolves who hate vampires by instinct. Yet this hate leads to an alliance. Beyond the illogic of this, it is explained by the great love Jacob and Edward have for Bella. Therefore, this conflict is often swept aside by the more prominent story which exists between Edward and Jacob for the love of the main protagonist of these films who is Bella (which of course means beautiful in Italian).

Now I have purposely ignored all the changes that have been made to make Edward likeable as a vampire because this is secondary to the main story which is a love triangle but I will address it here as it has been a subject of controversy. Vampires here are not creatures that have been rejected by all that is good per all classic tales. They do not burn in the sun which represents all good things; instead they sparkle like a diamond making them appear even more majestic. This makes Edward even more attractive to all those teenage girls who are watching this movie. The other changes are minor in comparison. Here the vampires are not evil creatures even though there are those who can choose to do evil as can people in any population. Edward could have been any type of creature or just like any teenage mystery man who has a dark side like they all tend to do to attract the beautiful girl.

It also helps that they made sex a near impossibility due to the types of creatures the romantic leads are. It appeals to the chaste side of public while increasing there feelings with ever increasing sexual longing. Again this is a ploy to appeal to the widest female audience possible. There are sexual undertones everywhere in these movies but not much in sexual overtures. It is not explicit and attempts to be subtle appealing to most. However, the subtleness of the sexual undertones is easily detectable by anyone with the slightest amount of intelligence.

This saga has been portrayed by some as a vampire series and is often included in the fantasy section by some. Yet in reality and not very far below the surface, it is clear that these movies are nothing more then teen romantic dramas. There is nothing wrong with that and certainly the investors behind these movies are happy with their investment. The only downside is those that got tricked into seeing a movie that may have been marketed as a vampire movie only to see something where the vampire side of things is only ancillary to the rest.

Personally given my own tastes in movies there was little chance I would like these movies, but that is neither her nor there. My opinion is not one that matters because I am far from the target audience. These movies portray a romantic triangle that appeal to women and more specifically young girls. The Twilight saga perfectly targets them and therefore they are well done as they are profitable.

KalEl114 said:
First, let me start by saying that I have never read nor seen anything Twilight related before this challenge other than the Paramore infused advertisements that bombarded my favorite TV channels. I fell into that pack that believed it was just another teenager filled “High School Musical” clone minus the singing with vampires and werewolves thrown in to the mix. Twilight is actually an intriguing look into the life of an antisocial teenage girl who is put into a situation which she tries to escape from and finds love on the way. In the beginning we meet Bella, played by Kristen Stewart, who is sent to Forks, Washington to live with her father after her mother marries a minor league baseball player. Students welcome her into the local high school, but Bella begins to feel bored with her new lifestyle. Her life soon finds a new purpose in figuring out the mysterious Edward Cullen (Robert Pattinson) and his family. Bella is nearly struck by a van one day in the school parking lot. Edward somehow manages to move quick enough to stop it with his hand without any harm to himself or Bella. This drives Bella to dig for more info and discovers that Edward and his family are Vampires. After the confrontation with the truth, Bella is sucked away into a harrowing adventure. She is protected by the Cullen clan from a group of vampires (James, Victoria, and Laurent) who set out to hunt Bella for pleasure and torment her protector, Edward. The climax of the film is action packed and touching. Bella is saved from being killed by James, by meeting his end from the hands of the Cullen family. The last shot we see is Bella asking Edward to turn her into a vampire and Victoria declaring vengeance on them from a far.
The cinematography completely made me feel like I was in that bleak Washington town and the forests that surrounded it. The direction was top notch. I absolutely loved it. The acting is a bit flawed, but it pairs well with the story. Kristen Stewart astutely conveys the emotions of isolation and the frustration that most high school students often feel. Robert Pattinson came off as a bit wooden, but that is most likely the scripts fault, as he does not have much to work with. I really would have liked there to be more of a spark between Stewart and Pattinson. The chemistry between them shows flashes, but it doesn’t soar to the heights one would hope for. The remaining cast are there for introductions sake. After watching the second film however, you see that they laid quite a bit of groundwork for further story arcs.
In the end I have to admit that my first thoughts of the film were unfounded. There is something there. Not enough for me to read the book, but enough to make me interested in future films.

New Moon
 
For me a good sequel is a film that exceeds the first film and makes a name for itself. I was surprised by Twilight, but would the sequel fix the things I did not like in the first one or is it merely a hastily thrown together film from a studio looking for a cash grab? I believe it is a bit of both.
First the story. Bella is thrown a party by the Cullen family for her 18th birthday. She suffers a paper cut that sends Edwards brother Jasper, into a blood lust. He attacks Bella, but is stopped before he could hurt her. Fearing for Bella’s safety Edward and his family flees Forks. As Bella mourns the loss of her beloved Edward she realizes that exhilarating actions causes her to see Edwards image. Also, her friendship with Jacob (Taylor Lautner) becomes stronger. It is revealed to her that Jacob is a werewolf. He and his pack protect the forest and are currently on the search for Laurent and Victoria. The two are looking to avenge their friend and partner James by killing Bella. Laurent gets a chance, but is destroyed by Jacobs pack. With the misinformation that Bella had killed herself in sorrow over Edwards desertion, he leaves for Italy for self punishment. There he meets the and provokes the Volturi. The Volturi are a group of vampire royalty that have the power to kill one of their own. Hearing of this, Bella and Edwards sister Alice head to Italy to stop him. As the do, the Volturi orders Bella be killed or turned due to her knowledge of vampires existing. Thanks to Alice, she is saved. Back home in Forks, Bella forgives Edward for leaving. The Cullen family agree to turn Bella. Jacob reminds Edward the peace pact between his tribe a his family would be broken if he bites Bella. The last scene has Edward promising to turn Bella if she agrees to marry him.
Ok, I have to first say how disappointed I was to see that that Katherine Hardwicke did not direct New Moon. I have never been a big fan of new director Chris Weitz’s work. The amount of slo-mo was groan inducing. Javier Aguirresarobe's cinematography is breathtaking and crisp though. As far as the story goes, it has a mix Romeo and Juliet and Beauty and the Beast inspiration to it. I have a strong feeling that it is not the strongest of the books or maybe the film did not do it justice, but I did not like the tone and pacing of it. It was not all bad for me though. Kristen has come into her own as an actress in this film. I have to admit that I preferred the chemistry between her and Taylor to her and Robert. I know Edward had less screen time with Bella this go around, so maybe that’s how I was suppose to feel. From a Twilight noob, I would say this was a bit of a step back as far as the series goes in comparison to the first movie. Has it soured my desire to watch future movies in the series, maybe a bit, but the cast of characters and their fates will have Eclipse finding its way on to my Netflix queue. A hardcore fan I am not, but a casual one I have become.


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Two judges are in :yay:

And yet with two judges in, no one has commented on how good my Twilight grid is :(
 
As I said in the PM, if you come to me with a legit excuse I'll work around you. IF was just unable to find the time due to work. He came to me, and I gave him a pass on the challenge due to the fact that he has been one of the game's more active players and he approached me.
 
Fair enough. I was just curious.
 
I'm waiting on one but I've sent another judge your scores. Whoever gets back to me first is the score I'll use.
 

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