I hope it will not choose this way...

capnmerica said:
however Raimi wants to stay true to the comic and Singer does not, Singer makes Krypton still exist, just extinct, Superman has a kid, not in the comic book, Superman has many flaws, as does Spiderman, but Spiderman is faithful to the comic and Singer's movie is faithful to him and turns its back on the fans. Spiderman will be handled well, Superman will be fun to watch at times, and pretty I am sure...but Spiderman will rock....

superman doesnt have a kid in SR.
 
CRASHNBURN12198 said:
superman doesnt have a kid in SR.

Actually he has, but his kryptonian blood cant mix with human blood aka Lois's, so that is why the kid is human and has enough illnesses.
 
lois's new boyfriend in the movie ,Richard, is the father.
 
Okay I'm not 100% sure with what I'm gonna say but I thought Superman: The Movie didn't go by the original Superman comics. If so, Spider-Man was written way before Superman. Right?
 
are you serious? Of course Raimi was much more faithful to the comic book than Singer is going to be...I don't get that movie anyway, but this is the Spiderman forum so why are we discussing that movie anyway?
Spiderman should be discussed here
 
Cinemaman said:
Hi guys! I want to say something to you all.

I will compare Spidey movies to Superman movies, because I found intersting stuff.
(This oughta be fun...)

Ok, look at Spidey 1 and Super 1 ('78), what we can see?
(We can see that some of you are blind???)

Love story with awesome action? Yep, Pete&MJ and Clark&Lois.
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

Camp (or better will be if I say insane) villian? Yep, GG and Lex Luthor.
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

Resbonsibilty? Yep again, Uncle Ben and Jor-El (or Jonathan Kent).
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

Newspaper? Jameson (Daily Bugle) and Perry WHite (Daily Planet).
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

Suit? Blue and Red (Spidey) and Blue and Red (Supes).
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

Choice? MJ or people in carriage (Spidey) and Lois or earthquakes (Supes).
(Hero has to make a choice or a sacrifice. You're right, that has happened only these 2 times in the history of cinema!)

Also: Aunt May and Martha Kent.
(Gee, just like in the comics!)


So as we can see Spidey has the same formula, which STM had.
(Gee, just like in the comics!)


The next is sequels.

More love story with more action.
(Gee, just like every other action/drama that had a sequel)

Serious villian? Yep, Dock Ock (Spidey 2) and Zod (Supes).
(Oops, except Superman 2 had 4 villains, including the return of the "camp" villain from the first movie. Spiderman 2, um... didn't)

What about girlfriend? MJ knows that Peter is Spidey and Lois knows that Clark is Supes.
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

Superpowers? Spidey losses them and Supes just dont want to be kryptonian anymore.
(Spidey's loss is involuntary, Supes is voluntary)

Box Office? Less than Spidey 1, but still very good and less than Supes, but still very good.
(Gee a sequel that doesn't match up to the original at the box office... where do I begin?)


And now... Spidey 3 and Supes 3.

New love story and more action.
(Superman 3 had more action than 2??? What fine quality pharmaceuticals are you under the influence of... and may I have some?)

Changes in superhero? Spidey finds black suit and Red kryptonite's influence on Supes.
(Kryptonite was used as a weapon in Superman. Symbiote is the movie returning to the source material, the comics)

New love story? Gwen Stacey and Lana Lang.
(Gee, just like in the comics!)

But Spidey 3 has something that didn't has Supes 3, 4 supervillians.
(I thought Lex Luthor was a supervillain. You said so in Superman 1. And ol' Lex baby is in 4)


But there is one question, will Spidey 3 be disappointment like Supes 3 was?

As for me, I hope it will not. But what you think?

Thank you for helping me further prove my point that all the whiners on here that say "Raimi" is stealing from Superman(Donner) is hogwash. Almost every similarity you cite comes directly from the comics. So if you want to scream plagiarism, aim it at the comics writers.

Case Closed!
 
LMAO Pagrebo (I actually laughed out loud)
 
Cinemaman said:
Hi guys! I want to say something to you all.

I will compare Spidey movies to Superman movies, because I found intersting stuff.

Ok, look at Spidey 1 and Super 1 ('78), what we can see?

Love story with awesome action? Yep, Pete&MJ and Clark&Lois.

Camp (or better will be if I say insane) villian? Yep, GG and Lex Luthor.

Resbonsibilty? Yep again, Uncle Ben and Jor-El (or Jonathan Kent).

Newspaper? Jameson (Daily Bugle) and Perry WHite (Daily Planet).

Suit? Blue and Red (Spidey) and Blue and Red (Supes).

Choice? MJ or people in carriage (Spidey) and Lois or earthquakes (Supes).

Also: Aunt May and Martha Kent.


So as we can see Spidey has the same formula, which STM had.


The next is sequels.

More love story with more action.

Serious villian? Yep, Dock Ock (Spidey 2) and Zod (Supes).

What about girlfriend? MJ knows that Peter is Spidey and Lois knows that Clark is Supes.

Superpowers? Spidey losses them and Supes just dont want to be kryptonian anymore.

Box Office? Less than Spidey 1, but still very good and less than Supes, but still very good.


And now... Spidey 3 and Supes 3.

New love story and more action.

Changes in superhero? Spidey finds black suit and Red kryptonite's influence on Supes.

New love story? Gwen Stacey and Lana Lang.

But Spidey 3 has something that didn't has Supes 3, 4 supervillians.


But there is one question, will Spidey 3 be disappointment like Supes 3 was?

As for me, I hope it will not. But what you think?

Well,I think this thread is so stupid,its not worth keeping it open....
So Superman 3 was bad,Spidey 3 must be bad too,right?.Lol:o .

Sam Raimi is rising the bar again with SM3,and this will probably be the most spectacular and best comic book movie ever made...much better than that boring,soap opera called "Superman Returns"...:o
 
Pagrebo said:
Thank you for helping me further prove my point that all the whiners on here that say "Raimi" is stealing from Superman(Donner) is hogwash. Almost every similarity you cite comes directly from the comics. So if you want to scream plagiarism, aim it at the comics writers.

Case Closed!

Just because they all initally come from the comics doesn't diminish the similarities between the two films series. He's simply pointing out the coincidence of them all happening in the same order both time. Lana Lang and Gwen Stacy are both in the comics, but did they both show up in the third story arc of their respective character in the comics?

You have to admit, these two do seem rather similar. Hero is created, Hero gives up his powers to be normal, but regains them to fight the villain, Hero is affected by some substance, causing him to fight an evil version of himself, while also dealing with a new love interest. Which series does that sound like?
 
Cinemaman said:
But Spidey 3 has something that didn't has Supes 3, 4 supervillians.


But there is one question, will Spidey 3 be disappointment like Supes 3 was?

As for me, I hope it will not. But what you think?

Actually supes 3 did have four villains: Webster, Robotic Girl, Computer Geek, and Evil Superman.

Some other similarities with Supes 3 and Spider 3

A. Superman, after being bad, must fight himself and finally defeat the evil version to become the original superman again.

A. Spiderman, after being bad, must fight the symbiote within himself, and finally defeats the symbiote and throws it off, to become the original spider-man again.

B. The computer geek who wants to exact revenge on superman for ruining his career plots to kill him, but in the end redeems himself by saving superman as he is being hurt by kryptonite.

B. The green goblin who wants revenge on spider-man for killing his father plots to kill him, but in the end redeems himself by saving spider-man as he is being hurt by Venom.
 
Superman will be good, Spider-Man will rule. For the record, I love Superman 3 and 4, they're fun to watch. Batman Forever though, sucks. :spidey:
 

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