How different will Spidey 3 look from previous movies?

[Cinemaman]

Spider-man was light summer blockbuster, which told realistic story of one of the most popular superheroes at nowadays. Overall, it still looks fresh and well made.

But what about flaws?

Script had not so good dialogues and also, GG got too much of storytelling. Peter Parker (not Spidey) should always stay as central characters of events in the movies.

Cast was great and I liked it, but I thought Tobey and Dunst could work much better.

There was too much action scenes, what really didn't help the movie. The only thing, which was showed except action is love story. Yeah, every movie must have love story. But I thought there should have been told more about Parker as Spidey (the balance of two faces).

Fight scenes. It wasn't the best aspect of the movie and I was a bit disappointed. Fights between Spidey and GG (except that awesome battle after bridge sequence) didn't look so exciting. It was like two old men trying to beat each other. I wanted GG to be more flexible and the same with Spidey. It just felt like fights in Burton's Batman movies, what didn't work well.

The main villian (Green Goblin) had one of the worst suits ever. This is truth. Raimi should have gone with more Goblin-ish style than Power Rangers usual suit.

Yeah, this movie is for all ages. But it seemed like it was film for kids, not teens. There were too childish scenes (like Goblin's songs or other campyt scenes).

But as I said before, Spidey 1 is still classic for most of people.


Spider-man 2 was one of the best sequels and just awesome movie. It had very intersting development of characters and it also learnt some mistakes of 1st movie.

But what didn't work?

Movie had simple storytelling, which had 1st movie. There wasn't anything new or at least unexpected.

It looked like Superman II. Yeah I can understand that Raimi used exact this franchise for making Spidey movies, but tehre also should have been something from him as the director.

That's all I think.


Now Spider-man 3, the main part of the franchise.

It looks very dark, very effective and very different from previous movies.

Dialogues feel better (from what i have already seen) and this time there will be new strategy of storytelling as I guess.

But Spidey 3 (like every another Spidey movie) looks also a bit like Superman III (god, I still hope it will be great movie, even if it has something from SIII). I want to see somethg new from Raimi, which wasn't showed in any another usual superhero movie and I have feeling I will.

Also, I don't want this movie to have too much action, which can very hurt it. 3 villians. Yeah, I know how it will work, but still, isn't there too much action? I just don't want another X3 film.

So what you think about it? How different will Spidey 3 look from previous movies?

 

[Menthol]

I does look a little bit darker, but I think it will have the same feel as the two before it. The only thing I complain about is Spidey doesn't crack many jokes in 1 and 2, hopefully in 3 he might, while he's sick with the power/evil of the symbiote. Ya know, it makes him extremely cocky.

 

[Odametal]

the perfect s-m3 wold be rated R. The whole symbiote storyline, venom, the revenge of Harry Osbourne, Gwen Stacy, all this storylines would be way better told if we don't have the pg-13 stuff.
But after all the money this movies got, Sony/Marvel will choose this path because all the products they can sell(toys, comics) is for a much younger audience.
I hope they make a more mature movie, with Peter suffering the consequences of his acts, with a tormented Eddie.

 

[JayKay]

the perfect s-m3 wold be rated R. The whole symbiote storyline, venom, the revenge of Harry Osbourne, Gwen Stacy, all this storylines would be way better told if we don't have the pg-13 stuff.
But after all the money this movies got, Sony/Marvel will choose this path because all the products they can sell(toys, comics) is for a much younger audience.
I hope they make a more mature movie, with Peter suffering the consequences of his acts, with a tormented Eddie.

No Spider-Man movie should be rated R, ever.

 

[Odametal]

^- just think on Spider-man movie as R rated. Just imagine how many things a director like sam Raimi could do with the character. Of course, it'll never happen, because of all the kids that like spider-man.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I have a feeling that Raimi will have a balance between the amount of darkness in the movie with The Light .

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

spidey3 will be darker, along with new characters and villians.

 

[Brendan]

^- just think on Spider-man movie as R rated. Just imagine how many things a director like sam Raimi could do with the character.

The rating has nothing to do with how much a director can do, that is unless you really want to see a Spidey movie with a lot of extreme violence, but thats just not Spider-Man.

 

[Odametal]

But theres a lot of, how can i say this, more deep characeters, with more layers, with more human stories on a r rated movie then a pg-13 movie.
on a pg-13 movie you need to please younger audience, that only want to see action.
maybe a saying crap, but thats what I think.

 

[Tanin]

^- just think on Spider-man movie as R rated. Just imagine how many things a director like sam Raimi could do with the character. Of course, it'll never happen, because of all the kids that like spider-man.

Spider-Man is a kid's comic and should always reflect that. Even if you can push darker tones into it, R is going too far.

 

[The Joker]

The one glaring flaw of the Spidey movies is too much focus on the romance between Peter and MJ. It seems to be the focal point of Peter's entire existence.

With triple the villains, and Gwen being introduced, hopefully there will be less focus on MJ in this one.

 

[Spider-Man™]

SM3 will be alot darker.

 

[fallenAngel]

The movies have seemed to get much more serious and mature. The first one was really light for the most part because it was more about Peter as a teenager and how cool his powers were. And the Second one he was struggling to grow up. Spider man 3 looks to be much darker but he still is a young person and it is a comic movie directed by Sam Raimi, so there is bound to be a lot of borderline corny humor.

This one will also probably feel alot different because there is more than one villain. A few more characters, the past two really only focused on four/ five main characters. This one wil have atleast six/seven.

 

[HCpride]

is there a total run time for this movie yet?

 

[Brendan]

But theres a lot of, how can i say this, more deep characeters, with more layers, with more human stories on a r rated movie then a pg-13 movie.
on a pg-13 movie you need to please younger audience, that only want to see action.
maybe a saying crap, but thats what I think.

That sounds rediculous, the character development in the first two movies had nothing to do with pleasing kids, sure there were parts at the beginning of the first movie that felt campy but I've seen rated R movies that were campy in that same way. Look at A History of Violence and compare the high school scenes in that movie to the ones in Spider-Man. Not a big difference. Plus Sam Raimi has been known for his campy movie making, Army of Darkness anyone?

I still stand by my words that ratings have nothing to do with your directorial style. Its the director who's vision makes the movie, not the rating.


And Spider-Man a kid's movie? No, Spider-Man is for everyone. They don't just think about the kids fans when they make these movies, they think about everyone.

 

[FNSpidey]

Spidey 3 will probably be a little different, a little darker, with 3 villains and less romance, all good things I'd say.

And Spidey hasn't been a kid's comic or movie for years. Lighthearted at times, yes, kiddy, no. On the other hand, I don't think R suits a Spidey film. Maybe for some McFarlane stories (like the one with Wolverine and Wendigo), but those should only be used every now and then. The main tone of the comics is "remarkable things happening during everyday life" and the movies seem to grasp that. They just sometimes confuse "everyday life" with "love life"...

 

[Odametal]

That sounds rediculous, the character development in the first two movies had nothing to do with pleasing kids, sure there were parts at the beginning of the first movie that felt campy but I've seen rated R movies that were campy in that same way. Look at A History of Violence and compare the high school scenes in that movie to the ones in Spider-Man. Not a big difference. Plus Sam Raimi has been known for his campy movie making, Army of Darkness anyone?

I still stand by my words that ratings have nothing to do with your directorial style. Its the director who's vision makes the movie, not the rating.


And Spider-Man a kid's movie? No, Spider-Man is for everyone. They don't just think about the kids fans when they make these movies, they think about everyone.

ok I'm talking crap

 

[Scissors]

i think that biggest different is:

it will be more like a...15-16+ movie genre

the previous ones were less evil

 

[Naite22]

Spider-Man 1 (which I saw again last night) is absolutely brilliant. It follows the comics so beautifully! The movie was a strong starting-off point for the franchise! It's the best selling superhero flick ever. It was kind off kid-friendly, but I really liked that, seeing how it was the first. In effects and in GG's costume there was evidence of cheasyness.. But lucky enough the movie was NOT cheasy! LOVE Spidey 1!

In Spider-Man 2 what was most clear was that the production was a lot ritcher! The effects from the last movie didn't stand a chance! (although the last websling scene in spidey 1 was cooler then the one in spidey2!) Spidey did no longer look like a character who had just stepped out of a video game! Most of the effects in spidey 1 was actually very well done, but in some places it was pretty bad. Even though the effects are absolutely breathtaking in spidey 2 there's STILL these little images where it looks totally awkward or wrong. Like spidey jumping to the window! In a movie where 96% of the CG looks THAT good, then howcome they can miss something as ugly as that!? Enough with the effects. Spider-Man 2 was some what more mature then spidey 1. It was a lot more intense. The action is the BEST ever caught on camera, no debat about that! The story is stronger, the characters evolves in a great way. In short, spidey 2 was a better movie then spidey 1. AND I LOVE SPIDEY 1!

In SPIDER-MAN 3 I have a strong feeling that we'll see something quite different. To be honnest, I dont know exactly what to expect from this one... Only that the teaser and the black suit indicates that it is some what darker then the previous ones.. I wouldn't necessarily say that it needs to be darker every time in order to do it justice..But it DEFINITLY needs to become more complex and mature for each one! We looks to get it in this one. The scoop seems EVEN BIGGER then in spidey 2! And that's not just because it's number 3, but simply because that's what the teaser indicates (and I think that after seeing the theatrical trailer tonight, It's stamped pretty clearly!!!)

Here's MY forcast! Spider-Man 3 will seem pretty dark in places, but make no mistake! When J Jonah Jameson steps in, he'll bring it RIGHT BACK into the cartoon world with his overdplaying funnyness, and that sucks!

But in the end, I believe Spidey 3 to become an unexpected explosive movie experience for every one seeing it!

 

[Cinemaman]

I would like to see in Spidey 3:

1. Less campy, but more seriouse scenes.

2. New development of characters.

3. Darker vissual style.

4. Not SO much love story.

5. More about Peter Parker's balance with the darkness and who he is (Spider-man).

6. No crying Venom at the end (like GG and Ock were).

7. Not so much deaths (the biggest mistake of X3).

8. More story about Brock.

9. More logic in action scenes (for example it didn't happen with Ock; there was no logical motive, only another bank robbery for getting money).

10. Stronger ending.

 

[Scissors]

I would like to see in Spidey 3:

1. Less campy, but more seriouse scenes.

2. New development of characters.

3. Darker vissual style.

4. Not SO much love story.

5. More about Peter Parker's balance with the darkness and who he is (Spider-man).

6. No crying Venom at the end (like GG and Ock were).

7. Not so much deaths (the biggest mistake of X3).

8. More story about Brock.

9. More logic in action scenes (for example it didn't happen with Ock; there was no logical motive, only another bank robbery for getting money).

10. Stronger ending.

voila,but,can i add one...

11. Peter (as spidey) in hospital

 

[November Rain]

cinemaman, i think you're views are somewhat quite a way out from mine on your renditions of both films.

saying this, i don't feel this film is going to be any lighter or darker than the previous two, the only difference is that the 'darker' aspects are going to be focussed on pete instead of norman or ock, giving an impression of a greater darkness. Sandman doesn't look that dark and if harry's motivations are what i think they are going to be like, then he's not necessarily going to be that dark either, even venom will be looking for simple revenge.

all in all, the film will carry the same feel as the other two, if not.


I just have a really hard time with you thinking the green goblin had too muh screen time and you're happy with what ock got, it just boggles the mind, how can any villain ever have too much screen time, they MAKE the story.

 

[Yurka]

I would like to see in Spidey 3:

1. Less campy, but more seriouse scenes.

2. New development of characters.

3. Darker vissual style.

4. Not SO much love story.

5. More about Peter Parker's balance with the darkness and who he is (Spider-man).

6. No crying Venom at the end (like GG and Ock were).

7. Not so much deaths (the biggest mistake of X3).

8. More story about Brock.

9. More logic in action scenes (for example it didn't happen with Ock; there was no logical motive, only another bank robbery for getting money).

10. Stronger ending.

awesome, well put

 

[Cinemaman]

awesome, well put

Thanx

 

[storyteller]

I think sandman will be the real troubled soul of the movie given is motivation.

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