I think Supes is immortal

[Guyverjay]

Believe me I seen those feats posted in a gazillion different message boards, in a a gazillion threads called "Goku vs Superman"

Nothing new to me

Alot of the feats are exaggerated and sayans are usually downplayed. I've seen one guy who said that the Kamehamaha wave can't travel light speed even though it destroyed the moon in one panel. His answer was no time was stated Oh yeah that's right all the characters of the story just stood there for a few hours waiting for the moon to explode, never mind that Goku was in great ape form destroying everything

The very nature of Superman means he would have more raw feats than Goku. Hell he probably has more raw feats than ANYONE.

 

[yahman]

Mate, none of those images work !

 

[yahman]

Believe me I seen those feats posted in a gazillion different message boards, in a a gazillion threads called "Goku vs Superman"

Nothing new to me

Alot of the feats are exaggerated and sayans are usually downplayed. I've seen one guy who said that the Kamehamaha wave can't travel light speed even though it destroyed the moon in one panel. His answer was no time was stated Oh yeah that's right all the characters of the story just stood there for a few hours waiting for the moon to explode, never mind that Goku was in great ape form destroying everything

The very nature of Superman means he would have more raw feats than Goku. Hell he probably has more raw feats than ANYONE.

How did this become DBZ vs Superman thread ?

 

[Whirlysplat]

The very nature of Superman means he would have more raw feats than Goku. Hell he probably has more raw feats than ANYONE.

True Enough

Mate, none of those images work !

Most don't

How did this become DBZ vs Superman thread ?

It's not my friend.

GJ, how do you think Megasmashers would fare against heat vision?

- Whirly

 

[Guyverjay]

True Enough

Most don't




It's not my friend.

GJ how do you thin Megasmashers would fare against heat vision?

- Whirly

Er dunno

Heat vs a Particle accelerator

At full force the megasmasher can atomise a sky scraper (this is standard guyver unit not the more powerful Gigantic armour)

I'm not sure on the destructive power of heat vision

I have seen it fired at 70% power (supposedly according to the writer) and it just blew the top of a skyscraper off

 

[yahman]

I have seen it fired at 70% power (supposedly according to the writer) and it just blew the top of a skyscraper off

I've seen its destroy skyscrapers on a few ocassions.

 

[Marvin]

yea so we all agree that in some form or another he breaths and what happens when he runs out of air
is no doubt fatal

ergo he probubly ain't immortal
(unless he can ressurect himself)

is it just be or do none of whirlys images work?
sucks cause i wanna see them

 

[yahman]

yea so we all agree that in some form or another he breaths and what happens when he runs out of air
is no doubt fatal

ergo he probubly ain't immortal
(unless he can ressurect himself)

This would explain a heck of a lot, especially drastically over powered abilities. Its also partially confirmed in the JLA arc; WW3, when he absorbs the anti Sun of the mahgeddon machinery.

Like Apollo from Authority, he may not have to breathe. He doesn't respire as he attains his energy from radiation and therefore the mopping up properties of oxygen (e.g. to pick up the Hydrogen ions from reduced NAD and FAD) are not needed. After all he has meta kAtp which is propably is phosphorylated by exotic means. Maybe's he just unaware of this process, and like the appendix, his respiratory system is product of evolution that no longer functions

 

[Whirlysplat]

This would explain a heck of a lot, especially drastically over powered abilities. Its also partially confirmed in the JLA arc; WW3, when he absorbs the anti Sun of the mahgeddon machinery.

Like Apollo from Authority, he may not have to breathe. He doesn't respire as he attains his energy from radiation and therefore the mopping up properties of oxygen (e.g. to pick up the Hydrogen ions from reduced NAD and FAD) are not needed. After all he has meta kAtp which is propably is phosphorylated by exotic means. Maybe's he just unaware of this process, and like the appendix, his respiratory system is product of evolution that no longer functions

nice

- Whirly

 

[Speedball]

Hello, he's talking about Santa Claus, not superman

 

[Marvin]

This would explain a heck of a lot, especially drastically over powered abilities. Its also partially confirmed in the JLA arc; WW3, when he absorbs the anti Sun of the mahgeddon machinery.

Like Apollo from Authority, he may not have to breathe. He doesn't respire as he attains his energy from radiation and therefore the mopping up properties of oxygen (e.g. to pick up the Hydrogen ions from reduced NAD and FAD) are not needed. After all he has meta kAtp which is propably is phosphorylated by exotic means. Maybe's he just unaware of this process, and like the appendix, his respiratory system is product of evolution that no longer functions

he needs it to survive

and looking at the title of this thread...
that answers that

 

[Whirlysplat]

he needs it to survive

and looking at the title of this thread...
that answers that

1 question Marvin. Where was Supes getting the air he needed whilst in the sun in 1 million for thousands of years?

Game Over.

- Whirly

 

[Marvin]

maybe u should read 1million again

it's called a fortress of solitude


psst the games not over till I say it is

-Marvin

 

[Whirlysplat]

maybe u should read 1million again

it's called a fortress of solitude


psst the games not over till I say it is

-Marvin

Umm, no, Marvin that's what they are calling the sun. It remains the sun. Hence Sundipped.

Please answer my question rather than evading it. It states Supes has been in the Sun 15000 years where's the Oxygen? The sun is made of Hydrogen and Helium.

- Whirly

 

[Marvin]

one ur gonna have to prove to me that he didn't have a fortress in the sun...
(fact that the word fortress is mentioned makes me question a few things)

and two(I'll play ur game)

my guess?
hybernation mode for him means his body can survive on radiation that powers his neuclear reactor of a body for as long as he needs.

here's a question for you, what do you think would happen if he tried that sh1t in a giant Red Sun?
(no oxygen and all that...)


why would an immortal need a beating heart and respitory system?

why was solaris so convinced(and he seemed to have a cumputers like accuracy when it came to killin ppl) he could KILL superman(prime or otherwise with Kryptonite?

what happend to earthtwo superman in Infinite Crisis?
I'll answer that for you;
Superboy whalled away on his ass so hard that...HE'S DEAD NOW.
lol

answers?

 

[Whirlysplat]

one ur gonna have to prove to me that he didn't have a fortress in the sun...
(fact that the word fortress is mentioned makes me question a few things)

lol clutching at straws, any Oxygen in the sun would become plasma at those temps and pressures.

my guess?
hybernation mode for him means his body can survive on radiation that powers his neuclear reactor of a body for as long as he needs.

Nuclear reactor of a body? I thought you thought it worked through photosynthesis.

why would an immortal need a beating heart and respitory system?

why was solaris so convinced(and he seemed to have a cumputers like accuracy when it came to killin ppl) he could KILL superman(prime or otherwise with Kryptonite?

Does Supes have one if he absorbs enough Solar radiation? I thought you said he was a reactor now. You seem confused.

We shall never know if Solaris was right. We do know that he lived in the sun without air for 15000 years and in the Flash (see first post) is alive to see the sun die.



The games still over Marvin, good try though.

- Whirly

 

[Marvin]

lol clutching at straws, any Oxygen in the sun would become plasma at those temps and pressures.

I love when you ppl get all condesending...that in itself it the greatest tells me you and your arguement need a confidence boost

a fortress in the sun is perfectly feesible considering the time and age of when he supposedly when into the sun...

even in todays comics there are plenty of ships capable of surviving trips through the sun(i may have even seen one in All Star)

now all one needs is one capable of producing life support for many years..ie take some plants with you.
last i heard the material in his ship and costume are not only as tuff as he is...but get stronger in the sun as well...why not build a fortress out of that stuff?

Nuclear reactor of a body? I thought you thought it worked through photosynthesis.
I don't recall memtioning the world photosynthesis in this thread...
and yes his body is many many years more evolved and advanced than ours and it(like in Critical countdown) is just a complex biological reactor of sorts...just like ur body, only he doesn't just deal with carbs and oxygen...one of the many factors in his system is...UV radiation

I have no doubts inside the sun he may very well be able to survive off of it alone




Does Supes have one if he absorbs enough Solar radiation, I thought you said he was a reactor now. You seem confused.

Your confusing yourself
and yes, you seen that post as well as everyone else, he has a nifty little heart beat.

We shall never know if Solaris was right. We do know that he lived in the sun without air for 15000 years and in the Flash (see first post) is alive to see the sun die.

"We shall never know if Solaris was right" so well just assume he's wrong



The games still over Marvin, good try though.
You're really hoping I don't come back with an argument aren't you
well sorry

- Whirly

-Marvin

 

[Whirlysplat]

I love when you ppl get all condesending...that in itself it the greatest tells me you and your arguement need a confidence boost

So Marvin answer my question wheres the Oxygen in the Sun and how does Supes breath it? How does he last 15000 ears in the sun without Oxygen if he needs to breathe. You mean condescending, I think and no i'm not that Marvin. No his costume is not as strong as he is, it's impervious due to his forcefield. His Ship wasn't big enough to build a fortress. It's called comprehension, fortress of solitude was an analogy. No need to get so cross, just answer the question, where's the Oxygen in the Sun? He woke up in time to catch the ring so.... do you think he somehow took a breath?

There is also another story, called "Where is Thy Sting?", in which Death (not the one from The Endless, unfortunately), comes for Superman, because he is "the only man who has the potential to live forever".

So, as long as he's fueled by a star that's not red, Superman IS immortal.

http://www.popmatters.com/comics/superman-where-is-thy-sting.shtml

Again though it really depends on the writer

As I said good try Marvin, no condescention meant.

- Whirly

 

[Marvin]

you should read Birthright...
yes superman has an aura, but that book is offically the origin now and it states that his suit and his ship are super dense like him..
his ship may have been small(didn't stop it from growing in this movie) but that doesn't mean it's the only place where he could find kryptonian material..
his (old)fortress is loaded with it.
and so are the many krytons he seems to visit.

also, if someone needs a condition to be imortal then they technically aren't
(ever wonder why Captain Marvel is considered the worlds mightiest mortal? u seem like a guy with great comprehension, so I'm betting i don't need to break that down for you.)

aslong as he's under a yellow sun he's immortal?
that's no better than saying as long as I've got a bullet proof vest on I'm bullet proof
or as long as the suns up I'm invicible...
now it's a matter or circumstance?

is that book u mentioned in continuity?

hmm if answering your question is the way to convince you than one second...

 

[Whirlysplat]

you should read Birthright...
yes superman has an aura, but that book is offically the origin now and it states that his suit and his ship are super dense like him..
his ship may have been small(didn't stop it from growing in this movie) but that doesn't mean it's the only place where he could find kryptonian material..
his (old)fortress is loaded with it.
and so are the many krytons he seems to visit.


is that book u mentioned in continuity?

hmm if answering your question is the way to convince you than one second...

Yes it is in continuity, Death shows him visions of his future and past, as is the Flash one mentioned in the first post. I've read Birthright it's been retconned because so much of it didn't fit by infinite crisis, just by how much we have to see. His suit got damaged in that by the way.

You never answered my question. You just didn't understand an analogy in one million.

- Whirly

 

[The Leaguer]

This thread is stupid.

 

[Whirlysplat]

This thread is stupid.

Perhaps

I just found this

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76633

Seems I've reinvented the wheel



- Whirly

 

[Marvin]

Yes it is in continuity, Death shows him visions of his future and past, as is the Flash one mentioned in the first post. I've read Birthright it's been retconned because so much of it didn't fit by infinite crisis, just by how much we have to see. His suit got damaged in that by the way.

You never answered my question. You just didn't understand an analogy in one million.

- Whirly

one;
where has it been said that birthright has been retconed?(honest question)
and how does IC prove it?

and two not that this is my official answer(that's coming),
When Doomsday "killed" him, I assume he just got burnt out and not actually killed. Now being in Hybernation mode (and in an airtight coffin grave) his body sustianed itself on the power of the sun(uv rays and all that)...

in one million assuming he doesn't have a fortress in the sun, he may very well be in hybernation mode...

but that's not my answer, just a shot in the dark

besides, what happened to mister immortal in Obsidian Age?

 

[The Leaguer]

He died.

This thread is over.

 

[Marvin]

He died.

This thread is over.

then leave