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It really is. It also reminds me of a time when many of us all sported the same Big Daddy V avvy at the same time.
 
It really is. It also reminds me of a time when many of us all sported the same Big Daddy V avvy at the same time.

Maybe we could form are own Kliq on the hype and we all sport the same Punk avatar.
 
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Jeff is in court almost every week for drugs, but Matt gets caught DWI and is fired? Guess it comes down to who is more bankable.
 
Jeff was obviously high during a PPV match that people paid good money to see, and yet TNA still plans on bringing back. Hey Dixie, ever thought about what would happen if Jeff Hardy dies while he's working for you? Especially since you asked him to go to rehab, he refused, and your still goiing to use him?

That woman needs to get a clue.
 
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Great now I'm never gonna be able to tell you two apart :hehe:
 
if Jeff dies while in the employ of Impact/TNA......its over for Ms Carter and that promotion
 
So much for Matt being the mature one...

Man, the Hardy Boyz have fallen. Out of the three big teams from WWF's golden age of tag team wrestling from a decade ago, only Edge & Christian have attained great success as a team and in single competition.
 
if Jeff dies while in the employ of Impact/TNA......its over for Ms Carter and that promotion

Yep. I don't think they would be able to survive something like this, especially if later on, its revealed that a majority of the roster was on PEDs. The WWE was able to survive that, I don't know if TNA could though.

Sure, it forced the WWE to make significant changes, but they survived through "The Summer of Hell 2007." Say what you want to about their product, but other then the slew of releases, the last few summers have been quiet from a negative publicity standpoint. All of the company's recent mainstream publicity comes from the Rock.
 
I don't get how Jeff isn't in jail yet. There are videos of him high as a kite on youtube. Not to mention his last ppv match and that one video with the taser gun.
 
Matt Hardy had his firing coming. Jeffs bad enough but Matts the one going on twitter lying about why he's away, posting these crazy videos, and saying OPENLY that he's got other stuff he'd rather do. He's airing his laundry way to much with this social media.

All thats bad but compound that with the fact that the guy has a problem, refuses rehab, and then gets in an accident and gets a DUI he deserved what he got. The only reason he was in TNA was probably to keep Jeff happy.

Honestly TNA should seriously consider sh**canning Jeff too if he's still refusing rehab. He hasn't been the braggart Matts been but the last thing TNA needs is another embarrassment from the Hardy's.

I wanna make peace with Metallo on this Gail King thing so I found this for him.
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You can be with Vince. I'd much rather be with Gail Kim. I'd imagine the experience would be a lot better and I won't need counseling later:funny:
 
I'm guessing now, Matt will A) Run the independent circuit B) Stay at home and drink himself into a bigger mess or C) Star his own promotion.
 
C needs to happen....I want to see that human trainwreck in an environment where he thinks he is in control
 
wow....really?

You'd like to be with Vince too? You're not a big muscular enough man to get Vince's fancy.

I'm guessing now, Matt will A) Run the independent circuit B) Stay at home and drink himself into a bigger mess or C) Star his own promotion.

With the way the Hardys are destroying themselves their old Omega name would be appropriate
 
I just find the picture funny....its not a war or a movement....its a person upset with their current job and wanting to do other things and voicing displeasure with said employer
 
speaking of Jeff....so what is it going to take...I figured Benoits suicide would straighten a majority of people out, but I guess not
 
speaking of Jeff....so what is it going to take...I figured Benoits suicide would straighten a majority of people out, but I guess not

We're talking about wrestling here. Most people in that world live in such denial that aint gonna happen. I figured guys like Eddie, Hennig, and Bulldog dying in hotel rooms would be a wakeup call but then we hear about Test, Umaga, and Cade.

Its only gonna chance when the entire industry wakes up...good luck as far as seeing that happen :o
 
LOOKING AT MATT HARDY'S ARREST AND TNA DISMISSAL - AND WHERE THE LAST YEAR HAS TAKEN HIM

By Mike Johnson on 2011-08-21 09:55:49

A little under a year ago, I penned the column that you will find below: LOOKING AT THE MATT HARDY SITUATION AND WHAT THE NEXT WORDS OUT OF HIS MOUTH SHOULD BE

by Mike Johnson 9/14/2010


"Matt Hardy will not die."

"Matt Hardy is taking control of his destiny."
"Does it look like I was sent home?"

Matt Hardy has a lot to say these days and unfortunately for both himself and his fans, he's not saying the one thing he should be saying to his fan base.

Matt Hardy has always had a really unique, cult-like connection to his fans, particularly die-hard females who grew up watching Matt and brother Jeff go from being undercard nobodies to bonafide WWE stars before their eyes. For lack of a better analogy, the Hardys were to wrestling what the Jonas Brothers are to Walt Disney - those likeable, hard working talents, good looking guys that girls loved for being so damn cute and daring and high flying and dynamic. The guys didn't mind them either - once they got over their Hot Topic tween look - because the reality was that beyond the straggly hair and babyfaces were two good damn workers in the ring who also went out of their way to take crazy bumps, crazier risks and against the likes of The Dudley Boyz and Edge and Christian, carved their corner in wrestling history.

While the other two teams went back and forth in their roles, there was no denying who the true babyfaces of that three-way war were. The Hardys were loved to a ridiculous degree and it was a deserved love as the two brothers from North Carolina worked their tails off to rise from undercard enhancement to signed players to rising stars after their series of matches with Edge and Christian. From TLC matches to Team Xtreme to The New Brood to Wrestlemania and beyond, the Hardy Boyz were a unique attraction for the WWF - and in reality - one of the last drawing tag teams in the wrestling business, period.

Like all good things, the run eventually ended, although they always had their die-hard followers. The team was split up and quickly put back together. Then Jeff was released for refusing to go to rehab. Matt got injured. Lita, Matt's then-girlfriend, took up with Matt's friend and on-screen rival Edge. Matt went public with the relationship and ended up fired.

From there, Matt Hardy's singles career really took off, because those same fans, the women that wished they could be with him and the men that knew he got screwed over, took up his cause. From chants to online petitions to signs to blogs to message board forums, those fans took up arms for Hardy. It sounds completely melodramatic, but they really were his soldiers, to the point that just days before he would have (allegedly) signed with TNA, WWE called Hardy and told him not to.

On the 90th day of his no compete, Hardy returned, attacked Edge and a new war was forged. Well, not really. Hardy was killed off faster than you could say Barry Horowitz and shipped back off to Smackdown. But in many ways, he had won - he had used the power of the Internet and his followers and Matt Hardy got his dream job back, even if he didn't get his ex-girlfriend back in the process.

If Matt Hardy owed his career to anyone, it was to those fans - the diehard fans that wore those silly Hardy armbands and made Hardy finger poses and cheered for the team even before they were getting pushed and even after their prime run was over. Those fans willed Hardy back into gainful employment as a WWE Superstar, the one job he ever wanted.

In the years that followed, Hardy had fun runs against MVP for the United States title, a reunion with his brother Jeff, a run with the WWE version of the ECW title that was better than anyone will give him credit for and more. Then, Hardy moved to Raw and turned heel on his brother, launching a feud that ran through Wrestlemania XXV.

During most of that run against Jeff, Hardy had been dealing with a torn abdominal muscle, which he later publicly admitted and finally underwent surgery for. Hardy had been struggling with maintaining his physique since that surgery. In a cosmetic business, it's never easy to have the spotlight on you when you don't look your best, and Hardy, after that surgery, was unable to bounce back and regain where he was. For that injury, it's not uncommon and it's a hard one to recover from. It's understandable he isn't where he was and his fan base certainly understood that.

"Today is a new start for me.. Sometimes things happen in life that are unexpected but are signs-I am officially back on the right track now. God works in mysterious ways. When I'm sent a message, I listen.. End of story. Everyone who has stuck with me, I'll give everything for US." - Matt Hardy via twitter, September 5, 2010.


That same day, Hardy arrived at the Westchester County Center. He was supposed to wrestle. Instead, depending on who is telling the story to you, he either walked out on the show or was sent home after speaking to WWE officials about his alleged condition backstage.

Hardy's removal from that show was the talk of most of the roster, some of whom had been rolling their eyes at him already and some of whom were his friends. He worked Smackdown and put over Alberto Del Rio, clean, but with some offense. Those same wrestlers began to wonder if Hardy was on the way out. One performer kept refreshing WWE.com for two hours after Smackdown aired, confident a release was about to be announced.
Instead, Matt Hardy went on the European tour. Again, questions about his condition. Again, he is sent home. This time, PWInsider.com broke the story after confirming with officials he was being "sent home."

"Oh Yeah! Hello World, hope everyone is doing great! Just checked the headlines in my hotel room in the UK-how the dirt-sheets entertain me.." Matt Hardy via twitter, September 12, 2010.


At that point, Matt Hardy went on to commit the cardinal sin. He went online to those same fans that championed him, cheered him, supported him, loved him and he told them the stories weren't true. He blamed a "Punk" and claimed the Internet writers (Hardy was apparently so mad, he blamed the wrong guy for reporting he was sent home) were wrong, just a day or so after he was writing about ones that he respected and liked.

Hardy ranted and raved - glassy eyed, it would certainly appear - that he was OK and still in England and it was just rumors. With just five minutes of Youtube video, Hardy outed himself as completely full of sh** to the one fan base that for years unwaveringly had walked through fire for him with their love and money - and would done it again if and when they were asked.

That same fan base took up the cause for Hardy. One emailed me, "Matt Hardy will never die, but I hope you do."

Days later, WWE confirmed that Hardy was sent home. Right now, WWE stars are suiting up for Smackdown and Hardy is nowhere to be found. Instead, he's home in North Carolina, because, as was reported here Sunday, he was sent home.

I don't know what the future is going to hold for Matt Hardy. I don't know - although I suspect, like everyone does - what his personal issues are. I certainly hope he gets his act together and goes on to work lots more Wrestlemanias, but there's one thing I do know. Matt Hardy chose to play with words and skirt the issues and misrepresented the truth to his fans at best - and at worse - out and out lied to them.

Hardy, no matter what you think of him personally or as a performer - owes those fans one hell of a profound apology for lying to them and making them question just how long he really has been working them as a means to his own end.

"Hope everyone is doing great all across the Earth.. Some changes to my life are definitely coming, which I think will be good-cuz I hustle!" - Matt Hardy via twitter, September 6th.


That first change should be an apology to those he treated with disrespect this week - his fans.
Then, he needs to go get his life, his health and his career together, in that order. Here's to hoping he does.
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It's been nearly a year since Hardy was released from his WWE contract. He moved on to TNA, ended up suspended and is now released from that company following his arrest for an alleged DWI yesterday.
For all the talk about Hardy not being denied and the world finding out who Matt Hardy is, the only thing we are seeing is Hardy denying himself and the world watching him repeat the same cycle over and over:
First, WWE sent Hardy home and released him. Hardy claimed he demanded a release and the company wanted him to stay. Less than a year later, TNA suspends Hardy and sends him home. Hardy publicly claims he is taking time off.

One of the final straws for WWE was Hardy going to his hotel room after being pulled off the European tour, posting a video where he denied reports he was sent home. His main defense was that he was still in Europe when he posted the video. One of the final straws for TNA was Hardy posting a video where he and his brother used a Tazer on Matt's girlfriend Rebecca - a video that also featured an obviously inebriated Jeff, the same Jeff that TNA had already sent home for wrecking a PPV main event when his personal problems collided with his performance against Sting. Although Hardy would pull the video and go on to post another one explaining that Jeff was OK and was just cutting loose, the damage was done.

The only difference this time is Matt Hardy wasn't let go because there was concern about him dozing off while eating backstage at a house show, it was because he ran his Corvette into a tree on the side of a road, where a Highway Trooper found Hardy and arrested him.
Here is the reality that the world and Matt Hardy both need to acknowledge. Something is wrong. Something has been wrong. Until Hardy gets help, something will continue to be wrong - and it will remain that way until a very terrible ending happens.

This isn't Mike Johnson, online writer, picking on poor Matt Hardy. This is Mike Johnson worried for someone who had at one point, was one of the best and most underrated performers WWE had to offer. Now, Hardy is someone who's watched his career slide backwards over the last year. Frustrations and injuries account for some of that, absolutely, but it's been almost a year since Hardy left WWE.

TNA wasn't the answer. Leaving WWE wasn't the answer. He's had more than enough time to physically heal any issues. Perhaps it's time Hardy does what he's been proclaiming he's been going to do for years - go take care of himself and find out who Matt Hardy, the person - not the wrestler is.

It's time for Hardy to unplug from social media, stop trying to connect with his audience and go connect with who he is and deal with whatever personal issues continue to force him into these situations.

It's not the Internet's fault. It's not WWE's fault. It's not TNA's fault. It's not his fans' fault. It's Matt's fault. It's time for Matt Hardy to stop denying himself the right to live a happy, healthy life, one that he earned with all the physical and mental punishment he put himself through - and it's time for Matt to get his act together.

He owes it to himself, not anyone else.

Hardy obviously has the financial means to do so (remember that YouTube video where he showed that he had seven figures in his bank account?) and no matter what anyone may thinks of Hardy's clique of friends in North Carolina, I have no doubt that they would all support him in getting his life together.

There was a time where Matt was part of a generation of talents coming in that were going to change the business. They succeeded in that quest. The new quest needs to be enjoying the fruits of that success, so they didn't work themselves so hard to simply ruin and end their lives.

I just hope a year from now, when I look back at THIS column, we can all look back and see how far Matt Hardy has come....because the idea of him continuing his current pattern of behavior scares the living hell out of me.

I hope it scares the hell out of you too - and I hope it scares the hell out of Matt Hardy.

Mike Johnson can be reached at [email protected].
 
speaking of Jeff....so what is it going to take...I figured Benoits suicide would straighten a majority of people out, but I guess not

I think he might be too far gone. He turned down a huge contract, he's been arrested, the stuff in TNA, even having a kid hasn't calmed him down.
 
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