IDW Transformers Thread

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Figured I'd start a thread for the IDW Transformers comics, since I know I'm not the only one reading them. What are everyone's thoughts?

I've been particularly enjoying the Beast Wars comics. I felt a little ripped off that it wouldn't be following the characters from the shows, especially since they're plastered all over the cover of the first issue, but the characters that are featured have turned out to be pretty cool. I like that a tiny little dude like Razorbeast has become the de facto leader to the entire out of phase Maximal group on Earth. I'm looking forward to Leo Convoy's appearance. I also hope that Waspinator shows up, since it seems the comics are up to the point where the show's characters took off back to Cybertron. Bringing Waspinator in wouldn't cause any continuity screw-ups or anything.
 
I got the first Spotlight trade. It was pretty good.
 
Is this like the Pat Lee Transformers crap?
Don't be uncultured. That was Dreamwave. This is IDW. Gosh. That makes me want to revoke my "I like pj2" license. :cmad:

The spotlights have been pretty neat (in reply to Anubis, above). And it's pretty rad the way Furman weaves those stand-alone stories into the main series of the modern-day Transformer stuff - Infiltration, Escalation, and now Devastation.

I suppose that's a plus to having someone do an entire franchise.
 
Is this like the Pat Lee Transformers crap?
No, it's almost all written by Simon Furman, who wrote most of the Marvel TF series and has become something of the de facto mastermind behind the continuing Transformers stories in some form since then. There's not as much of a heavy manga influence to the IDW series as there was to the Dreamwave ones, and Ultra Magnus is (thankfully) no longer a white clone of Optimus Prime. I hated most of the Dreamwave TF stuff I read--which wasn't much, since it sucked--but I'm really enjoying the IDW stuff.

The IDW series is a reimagining of the G1 story, but that's not as bad as it sounds. All of the characters are still pretty recognizable and "reimagining" here basically means that it's kind of a "What if the Transformers were around in today's world instead of the '80s?" Instead of the Transformers all waking up in the '80s, we find that Decepticons and Autobots have been running missions in small squads on Earth and other planets for years (because Cybertron is a burnt-out husk at this point) in their continuing war against each other. The story is published in mini-series that all make one ongoing storyline when combined, much like the Hellboy and BPRD comics. The first series, Infiltration, is all about a small group of humans finding out about the Transformers. The second, Escalation, is about the Autobots' and Decepticons' battle going from a behind-the-scenes covert ops war to a full-blown, open conflict (though still relatively contained--most of the world doesn't know about them, but some governments are aware of their presence). The third series, Devastation, just started, and it appears Megatron has pulled out all the stops and decided to destroy the Autobots at any cost, even if it means exposing themselves to the world at large. The first issue of Devastation ended with Sixshot shooting down an Ark shuttle with Prime, Ironhide, Ratchet, Prowl, the humans, and some other Autobots over a populated suburb in Tennessee.

IDW is also doing some other TF stories simultaneously. There's the Spotlight one-shots that Anubis mentioned, which are one-issue stories about various characters. Although they can be read as stand-alones, they do fit into the larger G1 TF story Furman is masterminding through IDW's comics. Then there's Stormbringer, which was a huge space story featuring the IDW introduction of Thunderwing, a Transformer so powerful that the Autobots and Decepticons put aside their differences and fought him together for their own survival. He was eventually defeated in the distant past, but a cult grew up around him and they just recently brought him back.

Finally, there's the Beast Wars series, which, unlike the G1 IDW series, does actually take the show's continuity as canon (Beast Wars, at least; there's been no mention of whether Beast Machines is still canon, though I'm hoping it's not). Because the show is considered canon and it covers pretty much everything for the major Maximals and Predacons, Furman took the opportunity to build the comic around the other Maximals and Predacons--the ones who were made into toys but didn't quite make it onto the show. They and the show's characters are allowed to be on Earth at the same time because they're slightly out of phase with each other. Magmatron was the leader of the Predacons initially, but Razorbeast, a Maximal spy posing as one of his troops, turns on him and defeats him, shunting him out of phase with time. Now Ravage (yes, the G1 tape from Soundwave) commands the Preds and Razorbeast commands the Maximals. The first BW series, The Gathering, established who the new Maximals and Predacons were and dealt with Magmatron's initial scheme. Now the current series, The Ascending, has started off with the Maximals trying to find a way back to Cybertron while Magmatron--out of phase and thus incorporeal but able to travel to any time and place he wants instantly--tries to make his way back onto the physical plane. The covers of the first few issues seem to indicate that Leo Convoy, the leader of the Maximals on the Japanese Beast Wars show, may turn up in The Ascending, too.

Whew, that was a lot of typing.
 
That is a lot of typing. I think I read about 16% of it. Anyway, the Beast Wars stuff doesn't interest me at all, mainly because Beast Wars sucks (sorry). The G1 comic book sounds awesome. I really like the series of minis format that a lot of books are implementing these days. I may look into those. Are there any human characters (Spike/Sam Witwicky) or is it an all Transformers cast?
 
That's okay, a lot of people look at Beast Wars, see it's not the G1 Transformers, and immediately write it off. I think the quality of the stories on BW was vastly superior to anything G1 had to offer (except the movie), but to each his own.

There are humans, but they're not the Witwickys. There's a small-time thief named Verity, a conspiracy theorist named Hunter O'Nion (whose name I will love Furman forever for), and a mechanic whose name I can't remember.

Stormbringer was marketed as the all-robots series when IDW first picked up the license and released it alongside Infiltration.

Oh, and I forgot about Megatron: Origin which, as the title suggests, tells the story of Megatron's rise to become the leader of the Decepticons and basically the worst villain in Cybertronian history. It's been pretty ****ing awesome so far, weaving politics and class warfare into the overarching mythos of Transformers. Cybertron ain't the robotic paradise it would be in the cartoon without the Decepticons in IDW's continuity. :up:
 
Beast Wars was really good. Particularly after the first season.
 
Yes, it was. Thanks in no small part to the fact that it tied heavily into the G1 series whose fans wrote it off.
 
Loved when they stumbled upon the G1 Transformers. I also loved Ravage showing up as well. That show rocked. Everything after it? Donkey balls.
 
Beast Machines sucked mighty balls. I watched it again and thought the stories from the first season wouldn't be too bad if they were for a series that was completely unaffiliated with the Transformers franchise, but the second season just sucks all over, up, down, and sideways. In fact, El Bastardo and I were talking about how Magmatron could potentially be setting up to retcon BM out of existence in this new Beast Wars comic.
 
That's mostly why I rewatched it. I figured nothing that looked that good could really be as bad as I remembered. Sure enough, I was wrong. :(
 
So what's the path for the storyline? All the one-shots and other minis aside, what are the books the main G1 storyline is running through?
 
That's mostly why I rewatched it. I figured nothing that looked that good could really be as bad as I remembered. Sure enough, I was wrong. :(


I gave it like four episodes before I realized I might die if I continue watching this s**t.
 
I toughed it out, tried not to think of it as Transformers, and tried to focus just on the characters, since they were still largely intact (except Rattrap, whose whole characterization sucked because he lost his demolitions expert/spy stuff and was just a whiny *****).
So what's the path for the storyline? All the one-shots and other minis aside, what are the books the main G1 storyline is running through?
The main G1 storyline started in Infiltration, ran through Escalation, and is currently in Devastation. There are some references to other things, like Thunderwing from Stormbringer, but you should be able to get by just reading those three mini-series so far.
 
No problem. If you're a fan of any characters and see a Spotlight issue on them, feel free to get that, too. They're stand-alones (I said that already, but you said you didn't read my big post). I particularly enjoyed the Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod, and Galvatron ones. Oh, and Galvatron is a different guy from Megatron in the IDW continuity. He's also crazy.
 
Apparently it is, 'cause Galvatron rocks pretty hard in the IDW comics. In fact, the only IDW reimagining that I haven't liked is Kup's. His Spotlight issue is just depressing. :(
 
Kup's was depressing. I hope they eventually bring him in to stuff.

Though, on a positive note, Springer in IDW Transformers-verse rocks mightily. Furman's always had a little thing for Springer, I think, just like he does for Grimlock, but he's really brought it out this time 'round. And it comes off better than Grimlock usually does, I think.

And I still prefer the look of Beast Wars to the look of Beast Machines, even. It looks like Reboot did. :D Besides, Beast Machines ruined Rhinox and Silverbolt, and that's just unforgivable.

But yeah, Corp and I were talking about Magmatron and his current circumstances and how it looks to just toss Beast Machines out the window. Hope it does. It looks promising, and it'll be neat to see how Furman runs with it.

Devastation, too, is going to be a wild ride. I wonder what they'll do after this mini ends? I doubt IDW is going to stop publishing Transformers "G1" stuff. Will they leave Earth and follow the battles on other worlds?

And what's the next spotlight due up, anyway? We had the Optimus Prime one back in August.
 
That's okay, a lot of people look at Beast Wars, see it's not the G1 Transformers, and immediately write it off. I think the quality of the stories on BW was vastly superior to anything G1 had to offer (except the movie), but to each his own.

There are humans, but they're not the Witwickys. There's a small-time thief named Verity, a conspiracy theorist named Hunter O'Nion (whose name I will love Furman forever for), and a mechanic whose name I can't remember.

Stormbringer was marketed as the all-robots series when IDW first picked up the license and released it alongside Infiltration.

Oh, and I forgot about Megatron: Origin which, as the title suggests, tells the story of Megatron's rise to become the leader of the Decepticons and basically the worst villain in Cybertronian history. It's been pretty ****ing awesome so far, weaving politics and class warfare into the overarching mythos of Transformers. Cybertron ain't the robotic paradise it would be in the cartoon without the Decepticons in IDW's continuity. :up:
Megatron: Origin is the only one I'm reading right now, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it :up:. I think I might pick up one or two TPBs after reading this thread.
I toughed it out, tried not to think of it as Transformers, and tried to focus just on the characters, since they were still largely intact (except Rattrap, whose whole characterization sucked because he lost his demolitions expert/spy stuff and was just a whiny *****).
Imagine how Rattrap felt. I think he was voicing a lot of the same complaints that fans were having, and yet no real chnages were made.

Still, even if I didn't like Beast Machines as a whole, I have to admit to myself that the final fight in the finale between Optimus Primal and Megatron in Optimal Optimus' body was one of the best fights in any of the TF shows, in my opinion.
 
Rattrap learned how to hack. That was the concession they made for the character. No, he still can't blow **** up, but he can plug his tail into things and write code! ZOMFG AWESOEM!!!!11 :whatever:

I still don't get why he had ****ing wheels for legs, either.

Anyway, yes, there were certainly good parts to BM, but mostly it sucked.
 
Still, even if I didn't like Beast Machines as a whole, I have to admit to myself that the final fight in the finale between Optimus Primal and Megatron in Optimal Optimus' body was one of the best fights in any of the TF shows, in my opinion.
I know I've seen the fight, but I just can't remember it too well. Still, I'd say that Beast Wars fights topped it, for the most part. And the glorious Prime-Megatron showdown in the Movie.

I mean, c'mon, the Beast Wars finale, complete with dialogue, totally topped the Beast Machines finale.

I still don't get why he had ****ing wheels for legs, either.
Yeah, especially since the bodies didn't have anything to do with the characters' Transmetal forms.
 
Rattrap learned how to hack. That was the concession they made for the character. No, he still can't blow **** up, but he can plug his tail into things and write code! ZOMFG AWESOEM!!!!11 :whatever:

I still don't get why he had ****ing wheels for legs, either.

Anyway, yes, there were certainly good parts to BM, but mostly it sucked.
Yeah, another thing that I didn't quite understand why they did it was the complete redesign of the characters' faces. For the most part, I get why the changes were made to their bodies (except Rattrap. WTF kind of sense do wheels rather than legs make? :huh:) in terms of the actual plot of the show, but why change their faces? The audience grew to recognize their features throughout Beast Wars, so why give Blackarachnia (sp) eight eyes when she never needed them before? Why take away Rattrap's distinctive ratface from BW? And the redesign of Silverbolt's entire head was just ******ed.
 

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