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IDW Transformers Thread

Bump. I miss this thread.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Optimus might be being played as too powerful in the comics now, except whenever he's fighting Megatron. I mean, Prime had a standoff against Thunderwing (a being that decimated Cybertron) in Stormbringer, and he held off Sixshot by himself for a while, whereas before, everyone was freaking out that a powerhouse like Sixshot was coming to Earth.

I'm loving the Headmaster stuff, though.
 
I think the Headmaster stuff is a really great reimagining of an initially pretty goofy concept. I love how Furman's using it in the current comics.

As for Prime, I don't think he's too powerful. He's the be-all and end-all of the Autobot army. I mean, he's not dominating the likes of Sixshot or Thunderwing, and I don't think he's as powerful as either; I think he's just more resourceful and doesn't view his power as his defining feature. Plus, to balance it out, he went down like a total ***** against Megatron.
 
That's the thing, though; like I said, Prime only seems to be humbled when he fights Megs. For example, in Stormbringer during the typical climactic showdown, all it took were some big guns that were already in the Autobot arsenal in order for Prime to take down Thunderwing, who had kicked the crap out of both the entire Autobot and Decepticon armies years before. I mean, if that same firepower had been used against Thunderwing halfway through the book instead of at the climactic finish, and the guns were wielded by a character other than Optimus, I don't think that Thunderwing would have been written as being so susceptible to the firepower. But because it was Prime, Furman wrote it as Optimus simply blasting the crap out of Thunderwing and being the hero that ended the threat right then and there, despite the fact that, before Optimus joined the fight, it looked like the villain was shrugging off much more artillery than Prime was dishing out, and hardly showing any signs of slowing down.
 
Bump.

So, who else is reading All Hail Megatron?
I suppose I'm liking it well enough, but I find myself constantly distracted by the overly blatant disregard for various pieces of continuity that have been set up in prior storyarcs, or simple yet-to-be-explained changes back to the status quo of the 80's cartoon.

Prime examples would be Soundwave mysteriously being monosyllabic again, and sounding like a ****** instead of having a personality for himself (it's hard to associate the words "badass" and "character" to someone who might as well have Majel Barrett's computer voice from Star Trek).

Kup's also not brain damaged anymore, and is back to being the cardboard cutout of the military commander that everyone remembered him as in his Spotlight issue (he's even chomping on a "cigar"), although I am actually confident that that will be explained, since he seems to be being set up as having a large role in the story, so some nagging necessity of an explanation should be among any competent writer's instincts to put on paper. Of course, I was hoping to watch his character development progress from his disabled state, and see him try to reestablish himself as a valuable Autobot, rather than just seeing the end result of that character arc.

I'm also eagerly anticipating whatever sad reasoning that Shane McCarthy has for the Seekers going from their F-22 jet modes to the ridiculously outdated F-15s, when we all know that the change was only done to please those fans who can only accept Transformers as they were in the original cartoon.

Even with a year having gone by, the offhand way that they mentioned their realization that the Decepticons had perfected Combiner technology seems very disappointing, considering that the debut of Monstructor was such a "Holy F**k!" type of surprise to the characters; but again, like everything else in the story, that seems to just be McCarthy's way of brushing aside the new ideas that had been established in this continuity, just for the sake of timewarping back to the 80's.

I'd also very much appreciate knowing just what happened to Megatron and the Decepticons' careful and crucial "phases" of infiltrating and destabilizing the planets that they came to. McCarthy has promised an explanation several times now, but I can't shake the feeling that I'll be disappointed no matter what the story behind it is. Seeing the Transformers actually require disguises for the stories that they were a part of finally gave a reason for their entire gimmick, whereas before (in almost every TF continuity that I'm aware of) all of them seemed to be recognized no matter where they went, and casually walked around in robot mode, which really rendered the whole "disguise" aspect of Robots in Disguise as completely moot and pointless.

On a more positive note, I love how the chain of command for the core group of Autobots has been fleshed out more, with Jazz taking control when in these types of all-out warfare situations, while Prowl is in charge of the infiltration missions. "We each have our specialty." Great line right before handing Springer his ass, which is actually a real testament to Jazz's skills when you consider that Springer's in command of the Wreckers and has a very strong reputation of his own. The inclusion of the Witwicky family is a very welcome sight, and is given a new spin instead of running around with construction hats, which is surprising, considering that so many other elements of the story feel so familiar. I also like that Sunstreaker and Sideswipe now have the bodies of their recently released toys from the Universe line. It's a subtle change that doesn't effect them as characters, but does help my own enjoyment of the art. And speaking of Sunstreaker, I'd love to see more dialogue and character moments for him, just to satisfy my own curiosity about how he and his comrades feel about his merging with Hunter as a Headmaster. The new idea for Frenzy to be bats**t insane is also kind of neat, and makes me want to read a Spotlight issue of the character to see how he came to be that way after he appeared perfectly normal in Megatron: Origin, years before.
 
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I have a couple issues of All Hail Megatron, but I haven't gotten around to reading them. Whenever I start pulling older issues to try and get caught up, AHM always seems to be at the bottom of the pile. It's odd, given how excited I was for it when I heard of the concept.
 
I've actually been enjoying All Hail Megatron. That's after thinking long and hard about it (a few times, actually). Initially, I wasn't too sure - I mean, the concept's a little odd. There's a time leap, and really, McCarthy is trudging forward into the future while Furman was, initially, still kinda fleshing out the past. And that's continuing with the Maximum Dinobots mini. As everything starts to catch up, I think it's all going to start to make more sense. But, maybe not. I would hope that's the plan, though.

As for Megatron and his phases, though, those were pretty much out the window in the final issues of Devastation. Megatron losing to Prime messed with his head, something the team of Decepticons even noticed, and when Megatron called in Sixshot, it wasn't for tea and whatever-they-are. Add to it that something obviously happened to take Optimus out of the fight and confine the Autobots to Cybertron (which we've been finally getting little inklings about in the last couple issues), Megatron's got to be sitting on Cloud Nine. What's going to stop him? Who's going to stop him? Add to the mix the Devastator technology and what not. IDW's Megatron was megalomaniacal anyway, and this is just the furthering of his plans. What, did any of us think that if the Autobots were out of the equation, the Decepticons would stop trying to take planets over and build an empire?

It's not a flawless comic by any means. The pacing has been off at times. But it's enjoyable. McCarthy has proven to be a capable writer and work within the confines of the continuity Furman created almost entirely, and Guido Guidi's artwork is, as usual, beautiful.

Oh, and if you want to see Sunstreaker and Hunter, pick up Maximum Dinobots.
 
I have a couple issues of All Hail Megatron, but I haven't gotten around to reading them. Whenever I start pulling older issues to try and get caught up, AHM always seems to be at the bottom of the pile. It's odd, given how excited I was for it when I heard of the concept.
This pretty much gets you up to speed on everything. You might think that the overview on that page should be longer, considering that we're 5 issues into the plot at this point, but it really doesn't have to be. I feel that the story so far could have been told in as little as 3 issues, if that.
 
Hmm. I don't know, I think I've kind of lost interest in the TF comics. That doesn't sound too appealing to me. I liked it when the Autobots and Decepticons were operating covertly on Earth in the earlier minis.
 
As for Megatron and his phases, though, those were pretty much out the window in the final issues of Devastation. Megatron losing to Prime messed with his head, something the team of Decepticons even noticed, and when Megatron called in Sixshot, it wasn't for tea and whatever-they-are. Add to it that something obviously happened to take Optimus out of the fight and confine the Autobots to Cybertron (which we've been finally getting little inklings about in the last couple issues), Megatron's got to be sitting on Cloud Nine. What's going to stop him? Who's going to stop him? Add to the mix the Devastator technology and what not. IDW's Megatron was megalomaniacal anyway, and this is just the furthering of his plans. What, did any of us think that if the Autobots were out of the equation, the Decepticons would stop trying to take planets over and build an empire?
There are still the codes of interplanetary conflict that most of the Transformers (Autobot and Decepticon alike) previously appeared to value, and violation of those rules meant that an agent of the Tyrest Accord, like Ultra Magnus, would be hunting them down. I'm hoping for some explanation as to why none of the Decepticons are even batting an eye anymore at the thought of open conflict, like they were when Megs first called Sixshot to Earth.

There also doesn't seem to be much in the way of explaining why Earth is so important anymore, since McCarthy has said that ultra-energon won't play a role in the book; as well as a story behind why the Autobots don't have the Magnificence anymore, which could have easily tipped the war in their favor, even without Prime; and not to mention how and why Cybertron is now perfectly inhabitable. I mean, I'm hoping that McCarthy will explain these inconsistencies to the reader, but with the way the story is currently going, I can't shake the feeling that the most explanation that we'll get is something along the lines of some offhand remark from Hot Rod that "oh, yeah, we lost the Magnificence," or Wheeljack saying "[one line of technobabble], and now our planet is safe to run around on once more," and then never mention the various incongruities ever again.
It's not a flawless comic by any means. The pacing has been off at times. But it's enjoyable. McCarthy has proven to be a capable writer and work within the confines of the continuity Furman created almost entirely, and Guido Guidi's artwork is, as usual, beautiful.

Oh, and if you want to see Sunstreaker and Hunter, pick up Maximum Dinobots.
I heard that he/they had a role to play in MD, but my comic shop hasn't gotten the book yet, so I'm still eagerly anticipating it.
 
There are still the codes of interplanetary conflict that most of the Transformers (Autobot and Decepticon alike) previously appeared to value, and violation of those rules meant that an agent of the Tyrest Accord, like Ultra Magnus, would be hunting them down. I'm hoping for some explanation as to why none of the Decepticons are even batting an eye anymore at the thought of open conflict, like they were when Megs first called Sixshot to Earth.
Admittedly, it's been a bit since I've read Devastation, and I don't remember a lot of Revelations and have the sinking suspicion I missed an issue or otherwise did not read it, but:

Ultra Magnus pretty much threw his lot in with the Autobots in Revelations, I thought, and haven't we seen him once in All Hail Megatron? Maybe I'm crossing stories. Not that any of this means much, and Ultra Magnus isn't the only one, but even if they did hunt for Megatron, they'd be effectively hunting the entire Decepticon force, and I don't think I'd envy them that.

As for the Decepticons and open combat, which ones are left from Starscream's original force? Runabout and Runamuck got offed at the end of Devastation. Did Astrotrain? They were primary amongst the worried ones, and even then, a lot of the worry stemmed also from the fact that Starscream was less megalomaniacal than was Megatron. Even so, when Starscream came back into play, he proved himself capable of downing Sixshot. If Starscream throws his hand in with Megatron's (which you have to think he would, both for the power play and to show himself as loyal to the guy who kicked his butt some issues back) - who are the other Decepticons to any longer worry?

There also doesn't seem to be much in the way of explaining why Earth is so important anymore, since McCarthy has said that ultra-energon won't play a role in the book; as well as a story behind why the Autobots don't have the Magnificence anymore, which could have easily tipped the war in their favor, even without Prime; and not to mention how and why Cybertron is now perfectly inhabitable. I mean, I'm hoping that McCarthy will explain these inconsistencies to the reader, but with the way the story is currently going, I can't shake the feeling that the most explanation that we'll get is something along the lines of some offhand remark from Hot Rod that "oh, yeah, we lost the Magnificence," or Wheeljack saying "[one line of technobabble], and now our planet is safe to run around on once more," and then never mention the various incongruities ever again.
This is probably fair, but it then becomes a matter of what one expects or wants to see vs. what is actually integral to the story. All Hail Megatron can remain a standalone and complete story without explaining what makes Earth worth taking over, what happened to Cybertron, what happened to the Magnificence, etc. Honestly, all All Hail Megatron was slated to be is the campaign by the Decepticons to rip Earth a new hole and take over - for all I don't want to call it one, essentially a summer popcorn blockbuster flick. His use of the Autobots stranded on Cybertron is justified by answering the where they are and why they're not defending Earth, following their retreat from the planet per Prime's orders. But the mini could use no Autobots at all, and still remain complete. Shorter, maybe better, but that's something to be judged at the end.

Will we see things explained? Eh, maybe. I think we'll see more about Cybertron, as well as what happened to Prime. Will we see any talk about what makes Earth worth it? Probably not. I don't think it would necessarily fit into the mini, one, and two, this portrayal of Megatron (through all the titles) hasn't been one of "military genius." Especially since his coming to Earth - in Furman's work - it's been more of flexing his power and crushing opposition in his hand. Why up and leave Earth? It's a planet for the taking, and they're there. And for the trouble he went through during Escalation and Devastation, why up and leave the way his nemeses - the Autobots - did? Then again, we might eventually see the answer to your question.

All I'm saying is if, at the end of the day, McCarthy's premise for the story and his orders from editorial were to jump forward some amount of time and, from that point, move forward with where the universe was / would be, then All Hail Megatron, to the issue it's currently at, has accomplished and is accomplishing that task. For we readers, would a line or two here or there about why this is or what that is be nice? Sure, and convenient. Is it McCarthy's job? Not necessarily, and especially not if it would be spoiling ground that has yet to be covered in work meant to "catch up" to All Hail Megatron. To be left wanting is generally better than encountering something redundant.
 
Gonna start reading this series soon starting with Infiltration. Have just read Megatron:Origin followed by both volumes of War Within, thought they were all great. Just got a LOT to read at the moment so hope to get around to it soon.
 
Hails, I haven't been an overly enthused fan of the IDW TF stuff (and really wish that DreamWave continued with theirs), but I have started backtracking a fair bit on the main stories and one-shots and have to ask does the All Hail Megatron comics tie in with the IDW storylines of Infiltration, Devastation and the one shots or does it stand alone?
 
It happens within continuity, as far as I know. It just happens somewhere in the future, after the events of Devastation (on Earth) and Revelation (everywhere else).
 
Yeah, it's supposed to be a year after the Autobots left Earth.
 
It happens within continuity, as far as I know. It just happens somewhere in the future, after the events of Devastation (on Earth) and Revelation (everywhere else).

Yeah, it's supposed to be a year after the Autobots left Earth.

Cool thanks for that. Now I've got some back tracking to do *sigh* at least my comic seller will be happy
 
^It'll be nice to see them all tie in at the end, I own Infiltration, Escalation and Devastation at the moment, but havent read them yet. I also own but havent read all of the spotlights, I am hoping to read them all in sequence soon.
 

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