If Marvel Gets the Fantastic Four Rights Back:

[Willie Lumpkin]

Hopefully the question and options are self-explanatory.

 

[Dark Raven]

We can't see who voted for which option.

 

[Crimz]

A mix between the first and third option for me.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

We can't see who voted for which option.

I think polls are more useful if people are able to vote how they feel without fear of ridicule if they vote the 'wrong' way.

But anybody who wants to can say how they voted and why. I voted option 3. I trust Marvel and I'm looking forward to whatever they come up with.

I'm hoping they'll surprise me. I don't want them to make the movie I have in my head, because I've already seen that.

 

[2kt09]

Do what I suggested many moons ago in the F4 movie pitch thread.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think polls are more useful if people are able to vote how they feel without fear of ridicule if they vote the 'wrong' way.

But anybody who wants to can say how they voted and why. I voted option 3. I trust Marvel and I'm looking forward to whatever they come up with.

I'm hoping they'll surprise me. I don't want them to make the movie I have in my head, because I've already seen that.

I want to ridicule people for their votes.

I haven't decided yet. I probably would be option 3, as long as it's done well, and also as long as it doesn't go the Homecoming route, which already seems to have been the Fant4stic route.

 

[psylockolussus]

Current times! Why does it have to be set in the past like the X-Men? I guess the space thing, but you know they could alter it to the race to Mars or some planet.

 

[WeaponXCII]

"If"? Come on man, we've talked about this too much to think that it's still an "if"! I don't know- maybe I'm being a bit optimistic. Anyway, I voted for the third option.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just don't see how Ff would benefit in an older time setting. Just set it in the present, no need to time travel to meet the other heroes and they will be the other superhero team in NY after the Avengers.

 

[Dark Raven]

Current times! Why does it have to be set in the past like the X-Men? I guess the space thing, but you know they could alter it to the race to Mars or some planet.

It should be in current times so they can not only encounter the Inhumans, but also have that crossover with Hawaii Five-0 with Jorge Garcia featuring big time.

 

[Dark Raven]

Surely crossing over with Supernatural would be the more amusing choice

The Inhumans TV series is already set in Hawaii and some of the scenes (eg Blackbolt being chased by the Hawaii Police Dept) already look like they're out of Hawaii Five-0.

Plus psylockolussus would be pleased, because he wanted Jorge Garcia for Blackbolt.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Who would the F4 interact with in the 60s ?

They would have to re cast

Hank & Janet & Peggy Carter & maybe Black Panthers dad it limits their interaction with other heroes & some would need recasting

Aren't you really pointing out that Hank and Janet won't have anybody to interact with if there isn't a retro FF?

That's part of the reason I think, like it or not, people should prepare themselves for the possibility of a retro FF film. Peyton Reed proposed a retro FF in the past, and Peyton Reed directed an Ant-Man film that set up a retro Hank and Janet. I have to think that if Marvel gets the rights, Reed will be pushing for putting all those characters together.

 

[Zarex]

A 60s era team opens up a whole new world of characters to explore. Younger versions of Hank, Nick, Janet, T'Chaka, more Peggy (Yes Please!) and Howard and Dum Dum Duggan. And think of all the great Cold War villains - the Red Ghost and the Gremlin come to mind- that are outdated now but would fit neatly into a 60s setting.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

A 60s era team opens up a whole new world of characters to explore. Younger versions of Hank, Nick, Janet, T'Chaka, more Peggy (Yes Please!) and Howard and Dum Dum Duggan. And think of all the great Cold War villains - the Red Ghost and the Gremlin come to mind- that are outdated now but would fit neatly into a 60s setting.

This touches on part of the reason I think Marvel is already telegraphing they might like to do something like this.

Marvel has established the idea that the MCU (like the comic-books) spans a time from around WWII until current times, but so far all we've seen are stories from current times and WWII. I have a feeling Marvel wants to fill-in some of that other history that they have hinted at but not fleshed out.

 

[Dark Raven]

I tell you what I will meet MARVEL half way. If they want a retro that will already change just about everything about the FF. There are only so many changes I will be willing to accept so if MARVEL changes their time period & wants a fan like me on board I would expect them to cast right & no race changing in any way of the major characters in FF if they change the setting of FF

How will it change everything about them? It will be set in the very era in which they were created and would, if anything, capture the spirit of those early comics from the Kirby era.

I'm not saying I definitely want it in the 60s, but a Mad Men-styled FF would bring to life all the iconic visuals which would be more faithful to the comic than the recent big screen versions.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I'm not saying I definitely want it in the 60s, but a Mad Men-styled FF would bring to life all the iconic visuals which would be more faithful to the comic than the recent big screen versions.

This is the element that intrigues me (and like you, I'm not sold, but just considering possibilities), by setting it in the 60's, you can put in things like this in:

If you don't do a retro film, you can't use the Kirby images for production design. Not only is the clothing obviously from the '60s, but the technology is based on a time that things were made with big, bulky vacuum tubes, and other mechanical (rather than micro-electronic) elements.

So Kirby's designs were very 'futuristic' for the time, but they're dated and can't be used now. But using those kind of designs in the 60's as way-out products of Reed Richard's imagination would add a unique, cool element.

 

[Web-Head]

A mix between the first and third option for me.

This. Like others have said, don't go the Homecoming route and change things just to change things because it's been done before.

I'd much prefer they keep them current day though.

We need Thing vs Hulk, Johnny interacting with Peter, another B.A. woman hero in Sue, etc.

 

[Dark Raven]

Exactly how can a less technological advanced era match the visuals of something thats set in modern day at its core ?

Like Willie Lumpkin posted, the visuals of Jack Kirby were big and bulky and simply looked different to the visuals of today.

It wouldn't be a 60s setting as it truly was in the 60s though. It would be an MCU version of the 60s, which would be more idealised and probably more technologically advanced than what we had in real life.

And some of the technology we've seen either in the First Avenger or even in Agent Carter invented by Howard Stark might be considered beyond what we have today, such as a flying car or many other things.

They can just say that Reed was such a genius that he was light years ahead of everyone else and was able to come up with technology that far surpassed anything that existed at the time. Same with Dr Doom (and possibly the Wizard).

And any technology from Galactus isn't going to be a problem because it will be other worldly.

They could even have someone like Kang come from the 31st century and land in the 60s, and this would explain why some of the technology has suddenly become so advanced, and why Reed had to keep up.

They can say that some of the advancements in the modern era are due to the inventions of Reed Richards and from Kang and Doom.

There was a Star Trek Voyager episode where a futuristic ship crash landed in the 1990s. Then a Bill Gates-like figure (played by Ed Begley Jr) took advantage of this and reverse engineered some of the technology he found. Then they said that advancements like the internet were as a result of this scientist (whose advancements were based off technology that came after the internet), thus creating some kind of paradox.

 

[Spiderine]

I didnt even notice this thread. Count me in the current era crowd.

No to 60's FF.

 

[Dark Raven]

& like I said why cant those visuals be done in modern day ? MARVEL is embracing the weird & crazy looks of comics in their movies. These movies are not based on any type of realism those visuals can easily be done in modern day. I want a good logical reason why those visuals can not be done in modern day & dont tell me because theres nothing realistic about them when the last thing these movies are are realistic

Because there are other non-technological visuals that can't be done in the modern age, like all the classic 60s cars, 60s clothing, hairstyles etc. Even if they could manage to incorporate the big, chunky technology of the 60s comics with the modern MCU, people don't dress or behave like in the 60s now.

And even some of the 60s colours on the technology probably wouldn't be used in a modern setting.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

& like I said why cant those visuals be done in modern day ? MARVEL is embracing the weird & crazy looks of comics in their movies. These movies are not based on any type of realism those visuals can easily be done in modern day. I want a good logical reason why those visuals can not be done in modern day & dont tell me because theres nothing realistic about them when the last thing these movies are are realistic

There's an inherent difference in the design of technology now vs. 1963. For example, look at the large, raised monitor to Doom's left in this panel:

It's extremely big and bulky by today's standards, but a large, high-tech monitor in the '60s would have to look something like this. It would have been made from a cathode-ray tube - not the thin OLED technology of today. And that's just one example. You can see the effect of that in everything. High-tech items in the 60's were big and bulky as Kirby drew them. They aren't today and it just wouldn't look right.

Sure, you could just stick them in there and tell the audience to deal with it, but it would be very similar to having Reed wearing a hat and coat and tie and smoking a pipe in 2017. It just wouldn't look right. It would look clunky and old-fashioned and inefficient - not high-tech and cutting-edge.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

And I don't really want to become the advocate of a retro film. I'm just trying to explain why certain elements would work better in a retro film.

Other elements would work better in a modern film (And there are a LOT of things that would be better about a modern film. Thing-Hulk battle for one).

But I also wouldn't be particularly surprised if we get a retro film, so people who don't like the idea might have to get used to it.

If the response to this poll is overwhelmingly anti-retro, maybe Marvel will read it and take their cue from it.

 

[InCali]

We can't see who voted for which option.

There you go being serious again.

A mix between the first and third option for me.

A mix between the second and third for me, but I have the comics from the 60s so I voted for that.

I think polls are more useful if people are able to vote how they feel without fear of ridicule if they vote the 'wrong' way.

But anybody who wants to can say how they voted and why. I voted option 3. I trust Marvel and I'm looking forward to whatever they come up with.

I'm hoping they'll surprise me. I don't want them to make the movie I have in my head, because I've already seen that.

Oh God.....I hope nobody makes fun of me. I don't want my life wrecked.

 

[Spiderine]

Im with Luke Hobbs. I dont understand why these visuals cant be translated to a modern day setting while embracing the Kirby homages. Given the host of alien lifeforms and strange worlds and other dimensions that will affect earth during the impending infinity wars will leave a lasting impact on humans. Perfectly opens the door to Reed Richards and the 4 as modern explorers.

 

[InCali]

If I had my druthers (which I clearly don't), I'd have the FF back in the 60s with a dangerous hookup with the Royal Family and, of course, taking on Doom. Maybe they do a Cap or DS comes and gets them and they end up in modern times. I don't really care that much one way or the other, but I'm attached to the old comics so that's my preference.

Just get them back and you can put them in the 30th Century for all I care. That's why we have Kang.....Kang.....that would be a good villain for a 3rd 60s FF and they move in time to where ever you folks want them to.