Stark Bauer
Mr. Feige- cast me as MCU Darkhawk
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The Ultimate Nullifier seems like such a big cop out. It will fizzle out all the movies leading up to and including Infinity War
I'm torn. But I'm definitely leaning more towards the 60s setting, gives us something we've never seen before without making dramatic changes to the first family. (*Cough Homecoming*) But I'd want them in the present after the first movie. FF could fill that hole that will need filling after Infinity War. Plus I'd like to see Johnny & Peter, Thing & Hulk, Stark being outsmarted by Richards, Doom vs the Avengers. They'd have to time travel to the present
I've been thinking about this topic all week and I've come to the conclusion that the Fantastic Four 100% NEED to be active time travelers because, especially after seeing Guardians 2 and in anticipation of Ragnorok and Infinity War...what else could make them distinct from The Avengers and Guardians as a team to the general audience?
Earth has been claimed. Space has been claimed. We've seen a lot of aliens. We've seen AI. But one sci-fi concept has only been seen once so far in the MCU and that's time travel (Doctor Strange.)
Like I said earlier, from a character and story standpoint it would be very convenient to have them come from the 60s. The "lost in time" aspect will bind them as a group, and would also explain their retrofuturistic bent from a visual angle. Certain things about all their relationships were also much more typical in that time than now. So yes, I think they all should have at least grown up in the 40s/50s/60s before traveling to the MCU proper.
Has anyone seen Rick and Morty?
One thing they do really, really well is time travel in a multiverse. The setup would be as easy as having Reed and Victor discover time travel together. From then on, Victor tries to use it for "the greater good" and Reed finds ways to course correct. You could make an entire library of stories from that very simple idea. Leave the audience guessing if this time they'll see the FF with the dinosaurs or 1602 or 2099 in the next film. Whatever it is, it should all be about exploring alternate realities and different times in history.
Also if we want a faithful Doom I want him to go back in time to learn magic from Morgana le Fey.
Weirdly enough, I'm not really either! At least, it hasn't really worked for me in film yet...I'm not a fan of time-travel stories. Too many logistical problems.
That's why we need a film version of Iron Man #150.
And making Doom not just an FF villain (and the public probably have a negative perception of him after 3 FF films) but an Iron Man villain (and the public love Iron Man) would really elevate his status.
Plus Iron Man #150 is something they've never done before and would also be a change of pace for RDJ.
Also, in the Marvel universe it's Morgan Le Fay not Morgana, even though in some versions of King Arthur it is Morgana. Although I wouldn't be opposed to them calling her Morgana instead.
Cate Blanchett could easily have played her if she didn't play Hela. We'd need an actress of her stature for Morgan.
Weirdly enough, I'm not really either! At least, it hasn't really worked for me in film yet...
Regarding the idea of sending Iron Man back to the days on King Arthur, that's one of my favorite stories by Marvel and I'd love to see it. I think it would be neat to have the characters be Asgardians in disguise...King Arthur/Thor, Odin/Merlin, Lancelot/Loki. They could all be under the spell of Morgan le Faye/Amora the Enchantress.
Helen Mirren played Morgana in Excalibur. That could be really cool casting except I'm not sure if an older Morgan(a) would work (would her magic keep her eternally young?)
Weirdly enough, I'm not really either! At least, it hasn't really worked for me in film yet...
I would rather have her younger, either the age of Cate Blanchett or younger than that. But not too young though. She needs that gravitas, so she can't just be someone in her 20s.
It all comes down to presentation. What makes the Nullifier so iconic to me is the journey the Human Torch had to take to find it and his reaction to it. If they focus on those aspects, it will work. If they focus on what it does instead...it could still work. It's all presentation.The Ultimate Nullifier seems like such a big cop out. It will fizzle out all the movies leading up to and including Infinity War
Yes I have. They NEED to go the multi-verse/brancing timeline system like Primer or it's going to be a logical mess, I guarantee it.Have you ever seen Primer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_(film) That's one of the few that worked for me because they treated the time-travel relatively logically without the contradictions and paradoxes we typically get stuck with.
Kang could also be used for more time/space travel. Or maybe they moved to a universe created by Franklin Richards. There are so many possibilities and Marvel is embracing their weirder stuff more and more as time passes. They would find a way to make them work in the established MCU.
Kang could also be used for more time/space travel. Or maybe they moved to a universe created by Franklin Richards. There are so many possibilities and Marvel is embracing their weirder stuff more and more as time passes. They would find a way to make them work in the established MCU.