If you could write/illustrate any Marvel title, what would it be?

[Zeu]

The "dream title" for me would be AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, although I'm not greedy and I would happily take any core SPIDER-MAN book that Marvel could spare. Heck, I wouldn't mind filling in on SPIDER-MAN UNLIMITED.

My "format" for the book? Keeping Peter/Spider-Man married to MJ, and devoted to his Aunt, with Felicia/Black Cat being a reoccuring supporting member/ally for Spidey. I'd have Peter both stick to his teaching digs at Midtown High, AND continue snapping photos of Spider-battles for J.J. because, well, teachers don't earn a lot of money (especially "new" teachers like Peter would be), so an extra $200-$300 a week from photos wouldn't be something to sneer at, especially since he'd have to fight villians as Spider-Man anyway, why NOT stick with what always worked for quick bucks? Naturally, that'd mean J.J., Robbie, and occasionally Betty and Flash showing up, but I'd try to create some new supporting characters from Midtown High, like fellow teachers, assistant principals, dean, a security guard, etc. They'd all have different opinions of Peter, especially since he's an accomplished photog and the husband of model/actress Mary Jane Watson Parker, who'd still be the breadwinner. HOWEVER, as MJ would at this point be 26-27 years old (nearing that big 3-0), she would be aware that the world of modelling is a fickle one, and unless she got some more serious acting chops under her belt (besides B-movies) or became a better fashion businesswoman, her stardom could be short-lived.

As for villians, the name of the game would be to have one of them from the gallery amp him/herself up and inconviently launch some new scheme in the middle of Peter's ongoing soap opera.

What? This sounds familiar? Good...because things that ain't broke don't need fixin'.

Damn, I would pick that book!

 

[Artistsean]

I need to add something to my other post, I would like to work on Avengers stories that included Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and characters like that.

 

[Darthphere]

I would love to do a Hwakeye solo title that didnt suck. Give him a supporting cast and maybe create some new villains for him. Pretty much make him marvel's Green Arrow. I think I would love to have Keith Giffen on art duties.

 

[bored]

Few others I'd go for:

The Defenders, continuing the humorous aspect, but playing up more the fact that the groups was four of the most powerful characters in the MU.

Avengers, being the Avengers. Not Bendis-fan-fic-ninja-fighters*.

There was a fanfic someone linked to in the Fan Fiction and Films forum that has been posted on a website all about fan fics (how many times can I say that in one sentence?), and it was (is, technically, since it isn't done yet) about the Shocker attempting, kind of on a whim, to become a hero, and stumbling across what he gradually realizes is a long-running conspiracy involving almost every character in Marvel. The supporting cast has included Rhino, Black Cat, the Punisher, the Gibbon, Peter Parker, and some others. Hell, if that became an actual comic in general, I'd be happy.



*it would, of course, be Bored-fan-fic-super-villain-fighters. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[The Question]

There was a fanfic someone linked to in the Fan Fiction and Films forum that has been posted on a website all about fan fics (how many times can I say that in one sentence?), and it was (is, technically, since it isn't done yet) about the Shocker attempting, kind of on a whim, to become a hero, and stumbling across what he gradually realizes is a long-running conspiracy involving almost every character in Marvel. The supporting cast has included Rhino, Black Cat, the Punisher, the Gibbon, Peter Parker, and some others. Hell, if that became an actual comic in general, I'd be happy.

The Shocker: Legit. Best treatment The Shocker has ever gotten.

 

[bored]

Isn't it? The writer, while he hasn't named himself, claims to be a professional comic book writer (though that could mean a lot of things), and actually wants to publish it, in some form or another.

 

[The Question]

'Twould be cool. Most likely, he's an indi writer. Might get noticed by Marvel or DC because of Shocker: Legit. I mean, they've even referenced the fanfic as the reason for The Shocker's current cult following on Wikipedia.

 

[Harlekin]

Except he's kinda shot himself in the foot. He'll have to change the story if Marvel picks him up to publish a Shocker story.

 

[The Question]

Spoiler

Yeah. They probably wouldn't be cool with the whole "government creating super humans and then scrapping the project when it went wrong, thus resulting in the high levels of super powered criminal/vigilante activity in the United States."

 

[Harlekin]

Not just that, but the writers aren't even allowed to read fanfiction during their work tenure because it could influence their work and they could get a lawsuit on their ass.

You'd think the guy would be out of trouble because he wrote the story himself? Not really, since I'm pretty sure a case can still be made concerning the copyright of the Shocker etc. It's not just a story thing, but a legal thing too.

 

[The Question]

I highly doubt that there would be legal problems. I mean, how can someone sue themselves?

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

I highly doubt that there would be legal problems. I mean, how can someone sue themselves?

FOX tried it.

 

[bored]

'Twould be cool. Most likely, he's an indi writer. Might get noticed by Marvel or DC because of Shocker: Legit. I mean, they've even referenced the fanfic as the reason for The Shocker's current cult following on Wikipedia.

Nice.

 

[Harlekin]

Except you'll find that that bit has been removed in keeping with Wiki-policy.

I highly doubt that there would be legal problems. I mean, how can someone sue themselves?

I'd still imagine there'd be legal problems for Marvel basically lifting the entire story from an un-copyrighted fanfiction. I'm not some big shot lawyer, but I'm pretty sure this guy won't be able to do his comic the way he did his fanfic, and that's just legally speaking.

 

[The Question]

Except you'll find that that bit has been removed in keeping with Wiki-policy.

Really? Why?

I'd still imagine there'd be legal problems for Marvel basically lifting the entire story from an un-copyrighted fanfiction. I'm not some big shot lawyer, but I'm pretty sure this guy won't be able to do his comic the way he did his fanfic, and that's just legally speaking.

I doubt that. There would only be legal problems if the origional writer of the fanfiction didn't comply. You see, the second you write something down, it's technically copyrighted. While the writer of the fanfic doesn't won the characters, the story itself legally belongs to him. If he writes it in comic form for Marvel, there would be no legal problems.

 

[Harlekin]

Really? Why?

Beyond the fact that there's absolutely no proof or citation that even confirms this you can find other arguments on the article's talk page. One of the other policies referenced is NPOV, aka Neutral Point Of View which basically comes back to the point about no proof/citation.

I doubt that. There would only be legal problems if the origional writer of the fanfiction didn't comply. You see, the second you write something down, it's technically copyrighted. While the writer of the fanfic doesn't won the characters, the story itself legally belongs to him. If he writes it in comic form for Marvel, there would be no legal problems.

Yeah, 'technically'. Even though you've got the copyright, Marvel could still sue your ass of for illegal use of their characters (especially when making money of it). Thing is that it's usually condoned. It's why I could definitely see that being a little bit messy in the legal department. Oh well, it doesn't really matter.

I'll be posting up my would-be plans for Quasar soon.

 

[The Question]

Yeah, 'technically'. Even though you've got the copyright, Marvel could still sue your ass of for illegal use of their characters (especially when making money of it).

Well, if he's making money off of the characters while working at Marvel, why would they mind?

Thing is that it's usually condoned. It's why I could definitely see that being a little bit messy in the legal department. Oh well, it doesn't really matter.

Again, I doubt it. If he ever works for Marvel, and adapts a story he wrote a while ago about Marvel characters into a comic published by Marvel, I don't see how there would be any problems.

 

[Harlekin]

Eh, it's probably just me then.

Quasar, Protector of the Universe
Art by Mike Wieringo

Why Wieringo above someone like Greg Capullo (who did an in my opinion phenomal run on the original Quasar series)? Well, because Capullo's work hasn't really been up to that level in a while now, and I loved Wieringo's redition in Fantastic Four. It's got the colorful/cartoonish aspect while also having a great story-telling aspect to it as well. The art isn't for everybody, but it certainly suits me fine.

Now comes the story aspect of it. First off, I'd completely ignore the whole Ego-seed thing like most writers have already done, since I'd have Quasar on Earth a few times. Secondly, I'd bring Makkari back as one of his chief supporting characters. Heck, I'd probably largely make it into a buddy book as I loved the Quasar/Makkari friendship. Obviously, Fast Foward (aka Barry Allen in the Marvel Universe) would get a cameo from time to time as he moves in with Quasar and Mak's in their old digs on Earth, since he lost his powers (in a nice little nod to DC's removal of the Speed Force).

The story-lines would pretty much be revolving as one would settle on Earth while another would take the guys into space. For the sake of trying to keep his contuinity from being convoluted, I'd pretty much forget about the whole seperate world (housing the folks from the New Universe and Quaz's ex Kayla) still orbiting around Earth. I wouldn't destroy it or anything, I just wouldn't mention it again (considering I thought that whole thing was stupid anyway).

I'd also probably give Quasar his share of love-interests ranging from his neighbour to the intergalactic hotties of the Belta planet in Quadrant Seven of the Meteoro System (or something like that). Thing is that unlike other superheroes he was never all that worried about his secret identity (he revealed it to his colleagues fairly quickly and his mom, dad and sister know as well) so I'd keep that going for his Earth contacts (after all, people from space wouldn't even care). What would it be like to live next to a cosmically powered superhero and his superspeedster buddy?

And then there's Ben Grimm and the Fantastic Four. If there was one thing I always liked, it was Quasar's unique relationship with the hero community. Nobody actively dislikes Quaz, and one of his best friends is the ever lovable blue-eyed Thing. They had a nice little dynamic as card-playing buddies and Quasar lived in the Baxter Building for quite a while. I'd have Ben Grimm cameo a few times when Quasar and Makkari are on Earth for a storyarc.

There's also Captain America and the Avengers. Quasar was in some ways a lot like Justice as written by Busiek in his Avengers run. He looks up to the Avengers and respects Captain America even more. The cool thing is, Captain America respects him a lot too. They always had a nice friendship that I would play up from time to time as Cap calls him in when the going can get a little too tough. I wouldn't have him join the Avengers though, and I'd even expect Quaz to be a bit wary of the new team at first, but quickly and easily accepting them.

We've also got a little appearance from Captain Mar-Vell (the original one) and Starfox from time to time, with the first being the previous Protector and acting as an example to Quasar. Quasar would find a lot of strength in some sparringly used mentorring by the deceased hero (easily done through the Quantum Bands), but I also wouldn't overdo it. Quasar doesn't need mentorring all that often anymore. Starfox would basically just be Quaz and Mak's drinking buddy in space.

Lest we also forget Epoch, the child/clone of Eon, who's growing into being the best little cosmic entity he/she/it can be. Epoch would be Quasar's Oracle (from DC) as she's the cosmically aware one. I'd refrain from finally giving Quasar that vaunted cosmic awareness since I think it'd mess him up a bit, being just a little too powerful for my taste.

So we've got our buddy book, we've got our love interests and soap opera, some sci-fi elements as Quasar regularly heads out into space, and I'd probably intro some fantasy elements as well, although I'd refrain from getting him into mythological stuff. Thing is, the guy has died twice now and came back almost on pure willpower, so a bit of fantasy could work.

Mostly though, I'd be showing that Quasar isn't just some two-bit Green Lantern rip-off by exemplifying the uniqueness of both his power in the MU and his station/role in the cosmic grouping in the Marvel Universe.

 

[bored]

Update on the Wikipedia/Shocker thing: There's a very barebones entry just for "The Shocker: Legit" now.

 

[Harlekin]

Yeah, that's going to be deleted before too long considering it's in blatant disagreement of wiki-policy (non-notability and all that). Actually, if it isn't put up for deletion tomorrow morning, I probably will put it up for that myself.

 

[The Question]

Why is it in violation of Wikipedia polocy?

 

[Harlekin]

It's not notable enough (after all, not every fanfic has or needs its article on wikipedia), it also has a bit of non-neutral POV in there. You can find this stuff on wikipedia itself.

 

[The Question]

Should notebility really be a factor? And how is it non neutral to have an article about a fanfic?

 

[Harlekin]

NPOV is about the writing, not necessarily the article and notability obviously needs to be a factor, otherwise you'd get an article about every little crappy thing man has ever devised.

But really, lad, take it up with the folks at Wiki. This thread isn't about Wikipedia and I'd dig some feedback on my Quasar post.

 

[i'm Spider-Man]

Harlekin,

liking the ideas for a Quasar series. I like the idea of grounding it on earth, and having a steady base of recurring characters who are familar-ish...

... also, liking the perspective of 'what's it like to live next door to a superhero?' It'd be a pretty unique one, considering he would be living in what I presume to be a fairly normal neighbourhood..?