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Tony Stark said:
When the script writers think it's a bad idea to kill off cyclops, yet are forced to do it anyway, you know you're off to a rocky start.

When AICN scoops your script, everyone thinks it's crap, and you deny that it's the real script, and then the movie turns out exactly like the supposed "fake" script, you've got problems.

The fact is the studio though they could pass off an effects laded crapfest on us, and it failed miserably.

Were there some good things in the film? Yes, but they were overshadowed by the bad. The dive it's taken in box office take is pretty much proof of that.

Let me ask you this, if this were the first X-men film and not the 3rd, what do you think it's B.O. numbers would be? How much of that 103 million dollar opening weekend (120 with labor day), was due to it carpet bagging off the success of the first two movies?


:up: :up:
 
I just feel that sticking with the production of X3 fromt he beginning. Then being handed something that is just polar opposite of everything that we have come to appreciate from the last 2 films. I didn't diss Ratner at all through the whole thing. I went into the movie with an open mind, and left feeling disapointed in the production.

To a serious point, if there was ever a movie that I would like to see remade, or sent back would be this (and daredevil...yet will ot get too much into that.).
 
i said it in another thread..i'll say it here... i liked it... it was a fun, and made me want more...just like how i felt/feel when i read the comics..or when i saw the first 2. sure there where things that bugged me about it (as a long time fan) but there were things in the first 2 that did the same. characterization being one of them. in all 3 . where there more in x3 than in the others..i don't look into it that much....if i want to see a direct comic translation, i'll watch sin city....the x-men movies were never direct translations. i think ratner did a great job at picking up where someone else left off and trying to make it his own.
 
Well, I just don't buy it at all... As said before, when the script leaked, all the world said "What a Bull***t!!!" Now the things just were confirmed and most of people who said it was B.S. and said it was a fake one are now saying that the movie is perfect, there's nothing to complain with...
I really hate goers like that... Poor thing.
 
blind_fury said:
*claps*

Exactly! If Singer directed the same movie people would be saying how fun it was and how it's cool that Singer "took chances". But since it's Ratner many just jump on the bandwagon and attack X3 while shamelessly ignoring that it's clearly a better movie than Singer's X1.
i agree sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much with this post!!!!!!! x3 is what it is because singer set it up that way!!!! rogue sucks and is unneeded because singer made her that way!!! cyclops sucked because singer made him that way!!!!! they both have gotten the shaft in ALL 3 movies. ratner and crew just went from the basework that singer and crew supllied!!!! if you don't like the movie it is singers fault. the previous 2 movies were leading into this one!!!! we finally saw the war that singer rammed down our throats in the first 2 movies! i, for one, enjoyed that war and x3. people need to stop whining about how the characters are handled because nothing has been handled like they were in the comics since the first movie. just names and powers. singer made storm i weak character! we finally get the real storm in x3. we finally see a full fledged bad ass wolvie! we finally see the first perfect personification of a comicbook character in kitty pryde! we finally see iceman iced up. all this stuff singer wasn't giving us. yes i'd like to see singers version, but ratners version in my opinion is the closest of the 3 to the comics. what stupid idiot turns a televangist into a military general? dumb dumb dumb! in singer's moviesif you look back he totally bastardizes the characters and all the supporting characters!!! so many people on here are just crying because its not the way it is in the comics. well guess what cry babies? singer did that since day one and ratner and crew followed in his footsteps. x3 is most true to the books pulling in actual events from the books, not just names and powers. the cure, dr. rao, warren's dad, storm as a stronger leader, terrorist magneto, etc. these are all direct stories from the comics. there are so many more in x3 too. so if you wanna complain, complain about the firt 2 movies because they are far more untrue to the book than x3!!!!!!!
 
crappymovie said:
Here's my idea:

Cyclops awakens: "NOOO...Oh, it was all just a dream. Thank god, it was just a quick paced, action filled dream...."

haha kidding :O
X4: Le Comedy :p
 
Mike059jig said:
I was just dissapointed...I expected more and something unforgettable...but was the total opposite

Just saw the movie...Mike059jig, if only your quote was in BOLD!!! I'm throwing this in the ****ter along with T3, RoboCop 3, Aliens 3, Matrix 3, Blade 3...
 
Just saw it. Let me preface by saying that I have learned not to prejudge a movie based on the director or other creative people involved. For example, I was one of the fools that thought Raimi was a bad choice for Spider-man and could not understand why Singer was involved with X-Men.

I prefer to judge the movies on their own merits and my preference is for building characters first, then surround them with action and dramatic events second. If you do the first correctly, the second is so much more effective.

My verdict: X3 did not do the first well, therefore, the second felt like a bunch of candy. Tastes great, but lacks any nutritional value.

My $0.02
 
I think the only major flaw with X-Men 3 was the length, it at times felt rushed. There was so much room for good storytelling. For example when Beast suggested closing down the school there needed to be more of an argument/discussion as to why it had to stay open.

Having said that I think X-Men 3 was fantastic, extremely enjoyable – a roller coaster of a movie. Bratner just needs to lay of the speed if he ever directs another X-Men movie, the complete opposite to Singer who needs to speed up his movie pace a little.
 
lol
when this crap happened to the blade franchise no one cared

now
imagine they made a low budget live action tv show out of xmen... on spike no less
 
First of all learn to space out a Paragraph cuz it's horrible to read like this. :o

windriderx said:
i agree sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much with this post!!!!!!! x3 is what it is because singer set it up that way!!!! rogue sucks and is unneeded because singer made her that way!!! cyclops sucked because singer made him that way!!!!! they both have gotten the shaft in ALL 3 movies. ratner and crew just went from the basework that singer and crew supllied!!!!

Singer set up for Wolverine to save jean and Storm to take over the school got it :rolleyes:. Um Rogue stood up for herself in X2 she was starting to become the badass we wanted her too be. Besides Cyclops being screwed over isn't Singer's fault genius, it's Fox's fault The writers pretty much said so themselves, after all Singer and Marsden are friends :)


windriderx said:
if you don't like the movie it is singers fault. the previous 2 movies were leading into this one!!!! we finally saw the war that singer rammed down our throats in the first 2 movies! i, for one, enjoyed that war and x3. people need to stop whining about how the characters are handled because nothing has been handled like they were in the comics since the first movie.

It's not Singer's fault you Tom Rothman imposter, and i said it once ill say it again, X2 DID NOT LEAD TO THIS!!! We understand things are handled the same as in comics all we ask is they remain true to the characters, so in other words Cyclops isn't a quiter that easily and Rogue wouldn't take the cure.

windriderx said:
just names and powers. singer made storm i weak character! we finally get the real storm in x3. we finally see a full fledged bad ass wolvie! we finally see the first perfect personification of a comicbook character in kitty pryde! we finally see iceman iced up. all this stuff singer wasn't giving us.

I dunno i thought Storm in X2 was better than Storm in X3 especially in that scene with Nightcrawler i thought it was brilliant. The real Stomr in X3? you mean the whinny little Halle B*itch ripoff we saw, the one that took a backseat to Wolverine when she should be in command. Oh and Full Fledge bad ass Wolvie doens't give speeches lead a team and cry like a little girl over a woman he's only known for a week. We barely saw kitty pryde to fall in love with the character although cuz the actress was awesome i did. BTW singer didn't do half the stuff you say X3 did on special effects cuz he didn't have the budger for it.

windriderx said:
yes i'd like to see singers version, but ratners version in my opinion is the closest of the 3 to the comics.

That's your opinion and in my opinion is that yours is not a good one.

windriderx said:
what stupid idiot turns a televangist into a military general? dumb dumb dumb! in singer's moviesif you look back he totally bastardizes the characters and all the supporting characters!!! so many people on here are just crying because its not the way it is in the comics. well guess what cry babies? singer did that since day one and ratner and crew followed in his footsteps.

Cuz the story suffered drastically do to that :rolleyes:. Yup we know its not the way it was done in the comics cuz it's sad when you can understand a characters feeling and personality more on a drawing then coming from an actor. Another thing is Ratner followed in Singer's footstep he just fell down along the way and made a wrong turn.


windriderx said:
x3 is most true to the books pulling in actual events from the books, not just names and powers. the cure, dr. rao, warren's dad, storm as a stronger leader, terrorist magneto, etc. these are all direct stories from the comics. there are so many more in x3 too. so if you wanna complain, complain about the firt 2 movies because they are far more untrue to the book than x3!!!!!!!

DID YOU EVEN READ THE PHOENIX SAGA :confused: .

Storm is a strong leader not a whinny little B*itch, and the first movie may have been untrue but it was well done and not rushed. Just because the director has ADD doesn't mean we have to suffer along with him. X2 was far less untrue than X3. In X2 we got a stronger Rogue in X3 we lost that. In X2 we got a bigger love between Jean and Scott even though he was bareley their, in X3 we lost that. In X2 we got a Storm with a good conscious but with rage in X3 she just became stupid. In X2 we had a real Wolverine who was messed up in the head and wanted more from his past in X3 he's basically Cyclops and he's crying over a girl he just told another guy to get over. I can go on but ill stop here i was bored and so i posted this :o :)
 
windriderx said:
i agree sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much with this post!!!!!!! x3 is what it is because singer set it up that way!!!! rogue sucks and is unneeded because singer made her that way!!! cyclops sucked because singer made him that way!!!!! they both have gotten the shaft in ALL 3 movies. ratner and crew just went from the basework that singer and crew supllied!!!! if you don't like the movie it is singers fault. the previous 2 movies were leading into this one!!!! we finally saw the war that singer rammed down our throats in the first 2 movies! i, for one, enjoyed that war and x3. people need to stop whining about how the characters are handled because nothing has been handled like they were in the comics since the first movie. just names and powers. singer made storm i weak character! we finally get the real storm in x3. we finally see a full fledged bad ass wolvie! we finally see the first perfect personification of a comicbook character in kitty pryde! we finally see iceman iced up. all this stuff singer wasn't giving us. yes i'd like to see singers version, but ratners version in my opinion is the closest of the 3 to the comics. what stupid idiot turns a televangist into a military general? dumb dumb dumb! in singer's moviesif you look back he totally bastardizes the characters and all the supporting characters!!! so many people on here are just crying because its not the way it is in the comics. well guess what cry babies? singer did that since day one and ratner and crew followed in his footsteps. x3 is most true to the books pulling in actual events from the books, not just names and powers. the cure, dr. rao, warren's dad, storm as a stronger leader, terrorist magneto, etc. these are all direct stories from the comics. there are so many more in x3 too. so if you wanna complain, complain about the firt 2 movies because they are far more untrue to the book than x3!!!!!!!

I couldn't disagree with you more. However little screen time Singer gave any major character atleast the dialogue had meaning. When Wolvie and Rogue were introduced to the School in X1 they were done so in a manner that gave us insight into the turmoil that created the characters. the same could be said when Nightcrawler was brought in and when Pyro was further explored prior to turning to the brotherhood. In X3 colossus moves his TV and tells Bobby Rogue is gone (some character development) oh and he throws Wolvie at things (which was great to see but Jeez once was enough). Angel's introduction and escape scenes were fodder that was treated as the border to one of the comics pages as opposed to one of the panels that made up the book (hope that made sense). I'm not even gonna mention Phoenix again. Singer did an awesome job of creating a window for us to view our heroes in realm where they might possibly exist. Brett showed us what it would look like if teh Xmen were competing against Batman and Robin back in the mid-90's. I'd rather not see Brett do another X-title. I had high expectations for X3 and Brett didn't even meet me halfway.
 
Marvin said:
lol
when this crap happened to the blade franchise no one cared

now
imagine they made a low budget live action tv show out of xmen... on spike no less

Actually I cared. I thought Trinity sucked. It didn't live up to the first two solely because they spent too much time trying to establish the Nightstalkers as a legitimate franchise. A pitiful attempt for that matter. I hope Wesley finds a good company and does the Black Panther. And God help him with the Accent!
 
borinquenknight said:
Actually I cared. I thought Trinity sucked. It didn't live up to the first two solely because they spent too much time trying to establish the Nightstalkers as a legitimate franchise. A pitiful attempt for that matter. I hope Wesley finds a good company and does the Black Panther. And God help him with the Accent!

i hate you, you changed the page and over shadowed my gihugant post :mad:

:p
 
gambitfire said:
i hate you, you changed the page and over shadowed my gihugant post :mad:

:p

LOL! Dude I am so sorry. I thought your reply was awesome. And I agree with letter typed. Is there anyway we can switch the order of these posts?

Hey everyone! Read Gambitfire's response! Its what literary masterpieces are made of! Bravo! *Applaude* :up: :)
 
gambitfire said:
First of all learn to space out a Paragraph cuz it's horrible to read like this. :o



Singer set up for Wolverine to save jean and Storm to take over the school got it . Um Rogue stood up for herself in X2 she was starting to become the badass we wanted her too be. Besides Cyclops being screwed over isn't Singer's fault genius, it's Fox's fault The writers pretty much said so themselves, after all Singer and Marsden are friends




It's not Singer's fault you Tom Rothman imposter, and i said it once ill say it again, X2 DID NOT LEAD TO THIS!!! We understand things are handled the same as in comics all we ask is they remain true to the characters, so in other words Cyclops isn't a quiter that easily and Rogue wouldn't take the cure.



I dunno i thought Storm in X2 was better than Storm in X3 especially in that scene with Nightcrawler i thought it was brilliant. The real Stomr in X3? you mean the whinny little Halle B*itch ripoff we saw, the one that took a backseat to Wolverine when she should be in command. Oh and Full Fledge bad ass Wolvie doens't give speeches lead a team and cry like a little girl over a woman he's only known for a week. We barely saw kitty pryde to fall in love with the character although cuz the actress was awesome i did. BTW singer didn't do half the stuff you say X3 did on special effects cuz he didn't have the budger for it.



That's your opinion and in my opinion is that yours is not a good one.



Cuz the story suffered drastically do to that :rolleyes:. Yup we know its not the way it was done in the comics cuz it's sad when you can understand a characters feeling and personality more on a drawing then coming from an actor. Another thing is Ratner followed in Singer's footstep he just fell down along the way and made a wrong turn.




DID YOU EVEN READ THE PHOENIX SAGA :confused: .

Storm is a strong leader not a whinny little B*itch, and the first movie may have been untrue but it was well done and not rushed. Just because the director has ADD doesn't mean we have to suffer along with him. X2 was far less untrue than X3. In X2 we got a stronger Rogue in X3 we lost that. In X2 we got a bigger love between Jean and Scott even though he was bareley their, in X3 we lost that. In X2 we got a Storm with a good conscious but with rage in X3 she just became stupid. In X2 we had a real Wolverine who was messed up in the head and wanted more from his past in X3 he's basically Cyclops and he's crying over a girl he just told another guy to get over. I can go on but ill stop here i was bored and so i posted this :o :)

Gambitfire I agree with you, and also now your post is on the corrent page :p Well most of it anyway...
 
borinquenknight said:
LOL! Dude I am so sorry. I thought your reply was awesome. And I agree with letter typed. Is there anyway we can switch the order of these posts?

Hey everyone! Read Gambitfire's response! Its what literary masterpieces are made of! Bravo! *Applaude* :up: :)

LOL, thanks i try.:o .................. :p
 
gambitfire said:
Singer set up for Wolverine to save jean and Storm to take over the school got it :rolleyes:. Um Rogue stood up for herself in X2 she was starting to become the badass we wanted her too be. Besides Cyclops being screwed over isn't Singer's fault genius, it's Fox's fault The writers pretty much said so themselves, after all Singer and Marsden are friends :)


It's not Singer's fault you Tom Rothman imposter, and i said it once ill say it again, X2 DID NOT LEAD TO THIS!!! We understand things are handled the same as in comics all we ask is they remain true to the characters, so in other words Cyclops isn't a quiter that easily and Rogue wouldn't take the cure.


I dunno i thought Storm in X2 was better than Storm in X3 especially in that scene with Nightcrawler i thought it was brilliant. The real Stomr in X3? you mean the whinny little Halle B*itch ripoff we saw, the one that took a backseat to Wolverine when she should be in command. Oh and Full Fledge bad ass Wolvie doens't give speeches lead a team and cry like a little girl over a woman he's only known for a week. We barely saw kitty pryde to fall in love with the character although cuz the actress was awesome i did. BTW singer didn't do half the stuff you say X3 did on special effects cuz he didn't have the budger for it.



That's your opinion and in my opinion is that yours is not a good one.



Cuz the story suffered drastically do to that :rolleyes:. Yup we know its not the way it was done in the comics cuz it's sad when you can understand a characters feeling and personality more on a drawing then coming from an actor. Another thing is Ratner followed in Singer's footstep he just fell down along the way and made a wrong turn.




DID YOU EVEN READ THE PHOENIX SAGA :confused: .

Storm is a strong leader not a whinny little B*itch, and the first movie may have been untrue but it was well done and not rushed. Just because the director has ADD doesn't mean we have to suffer along with him. X2 was far less untrue than X3. In X2 we got a stronger Rogue in X3 we lost that. In X2 we got a bigger love between Jean and Scott even though he was bareley their, in X3 we lost that. In X2 we got a Storm with a good conscious but with rage in X3 she just became stupid. In X2 we had a real Wolverine who was messed up in the head and wanted more from his past in X3 he's basically Cyclops and he's crying over a girl he just told another guy to get over. I can go on but ill stop here i was bored and so i posted this :o :)

I agree, it needs to be re-posted :up:

And just so you know for those who disagree, listen to the X2 dvd commentary (the writers) and hear about how "they wanted Jean to still say she wanted Cyclops (when she kissed Logan)", "felt bad about Cyclops being in jail for a large portion of the film" so wrote him extra scenes which were deleted for time/audience confusion, and their comments about Storm.

Then comment on what "singer would have done."
 
borinquenknight said:
Actually I cared. I thought Trinity sucked. It didn't live up to the first two solely because they spent too much time trying to establish the Nightstalkers as a legitimate franchise. A pitiful attempt for that matter. I hope Wesley finds a good company and does the Black Panther. And God help him with the Accent!

In the third blade, they were more preoccupied with branching off with new characters than the one that the first two was about? Wow, that sounds familiar.

I mean who thought it was a good idea to destroy all of the characters we had just gotten to know in order to make room for half a doezen ones we will never care about, at then end of a "trilogy" no less. This is why so many people say that the movie is something only a fan can truly appreciate, because the main audience doesn't care about this Angel guy, or that chick who can run fast.

Talk about morons. I have a feeling that when Penn and Kinberg started writing there was none of this Bull Sh** last stand talk. Thats what makes it a horrible conclusion, the fact that it tried to set up more than resolve. It's way of resolving many character arcs was just to kill them or cure them.
 
Personally I think Ratner and crew were too preoccupied trying to "finish the trilogy Singer started" by basically taking all the characters in unnatural directions, all the development of the characters in X2 was basically scrapped. Besides maybe Wolverines, but he turned into something incredibly different than his comic/ past movie counterpart.

They really had no idea how to continue the story so they tried to cut their losses by ending the franchise.
 
PowersOfMind said:
While im not knocking you for answering the question asked, why the **** do you feel the need to try and degrade the people who did like the movie. Why do the people who liked the movie have to be ignorant and you feel sorry for them> I mean where the **** do you get off calling people ignorant? Calling someone ignorant for not seeing your POV is ignorent in itself.

Read my post better. I wasnt calling those who liked the movie ignorant. I was calling those who liked the movie and "couldnt possibly fathom any other response towards it" ignorant.

p.s. does anyone else find it hilarious when kinberg and penn say stuff like "logan taking over for cyclops, "logan saving jean," and "Rogue taking the cure" was foreshadowed in the first two films...or is it just me?
 
tonytr1687 said:
Read my post better. I wasnt calling those who liked the movie ignorant. I was calling those who liked the movie and "couldnt possibly fathom any other response towards it" ignorant.

p.s. does anyone else find it hilarious when kinberg and penn say stuff like "logan taking over for cyclops, "logan saving jean," and "Rogue taking the cure" was foreshadowed in the first two films...or is it just me?

Well, there was a deleted scene in X1 in which Rogue asks Storm if they can cure her. Deleted, but it was filmed...

I happen to like X3. What happened with Cyclops was bad, and I feel it would probably have been better if Singer were directing - more than likely because the whole James Marsden thing then wouldn't have arisen. (although Cyclops was absent for a large part of X2 and Jean didn't seem overly bothered about that!)

But Singer wasn't directing. I went into the auditorium knowing full well that Bryan wasn't directing, that Cyclops had a reduced role (and appeared to die) and that it was not a three-hour epic. X3 has some great moments in it. It's not as arty or deep as Singer's work, but we knew that since last year, didn't we?
 
X-Maniac said:
Well, there was a deleted scene in X1 in which Rogue asks Storm if they can cure her. Deleted, but it was filmed...

I happen to like X3. What happened with Cyclops was bad, and I feel it would probably have been better if Singer were directing - more than likely because the whole James Marsden thing then wouldn't have arisen. (although Cyclops was absent for a large part of X2 and Jean didn't seem overly bothered about that!)

But Singer wasn't directing. I went into the auditorium knowing full well that Bryan wasn't directing, that Cyclops had a reduced role (and appeared to die) and that it was not a three-hour epic. X3 has some great moments in it. It's not as arty or deep as Singer's work, but we knew that since last year, didn't we?

I didnt think X3 was terrible, just mediocre and therefore disappointing. It did have some clever lines here and there and for the most part the story was decent, it's just the execution was all wrong. And see you're basing your likeness of the film based on expectations that it wasn't going to be as good as the first two no matter what. But for me that doesnt matter. Ratner's job was to exceed my expectations and match what Singer did...but he failed to do that.

Oh and by the way I'm well aware of the deleted scene in X1 and thats why I'm glad they went with the cure storyline because it actually fits with the first two very well. But that scene wasnt necessarily foreshadowing Rogue actually taking the cure, it was merely foreshadowing the notion of a cure itself and Rogue contemplating it if one were ever to be created. X2 showed Rogue becoming more take-charge and accepting of her powers. One of my dream scenes for X3 had Rogue in the cure clinic with the doctor ready to apply the syringe when Pyro's flame blast from outside interrupts and destroys the lab. Amidst the chaos Rogue crawls to safety and ends up touching a fallen mutant whos strength she absorbs. The doctors are calling for help and because of the strength she now has (because of her powers) she is able to save them. It would be a big hero moment for Rogue (something she never really had) and sorta be reminiscent of the burning building scene in Spider-man 2 where Peter has an epiphany. With the doctors being genuinely grateful and thanking her, Rogue would change her mind and realize she is ROGUE, not Marie.
 
tonytr1687 said:
I didnt think X3 was terrible, just mediocre and therefore disappointing. It did have some clever lines here and there and for the most part the story was decent, it's just the execution was all wrong. And see you're basing your likeness of the film based on expectations that it wasn't going to be as good as the first two no matter what. But for me that doesnt matter. Ratner's job was to exceed my expectations and match what Singer did...but he failed to do that.

Oh and by the way I'm well aware of the deleted scene in X1 and thats why I'm glad they went with the cure storyline because it actually fits with the first two very well. But that scene wasnt necessarily foreshadowing Rogue actually taking the cure, it was merely foreshadowing the notion of a cure itself and Rogue contemplating it if one were ever to be created. X2 showed Rogue becoming more take-charge and accepting of her powers. One of my dream scenes for X3 had Rogue in the cure clinic with the doctor ready to apply the syringe when Pyro's flame blast from outside interrupts and destroys the lab. Amidst the chaos Rogue crawls to safety and ends up touching a fallen mutant whos strength she absorbs. The doctors are calling for help and because of the strength she now has (because of her powers) she is able to save them. It would be a big hero moment for Rogue (something she never really had) and sorta be reminiscent of the burning building scene in Spider-man 2 where Peter has an epiphany. With the doctors being genuinely grateful and thanking her, Rogue would realize she is ROGUE, not Marie.

i wouldn't say I went into the movie basing it on low expectations.. though I did have some anxieties thanks to all you lot on here constantly eroding away at any happy thoughts. It wasn't perfect, but I liked it a lot and it was far greater than mediocre! Ratner is never going to satisfy anyone who loves a film because it's by Bryan Singer rather than because it's about X-Men. My love of the X-Men comes before my following for any particular director.

I believe that scene in X1 was definitely foreshadowing Rogue taking a cure. And I think her taking the cure shows the moral dilemma and different standpoints a cure created, and makes it more real by having someone actually take it. In X2 Rogue showed a little more confidence, but not much...attempting to fly the jet was brave, and yet she was shown as blubbering and ineffectual at the end of that, so her character hadn't grown very much. And she still couldn't touch anyone; her powers remained the same. Your 'dream scene' sounds fine as an alternative - that she (like Thing in FF) chooses to be/stay what she is. It would work equally well, and since they did shoot a scene where she didn't take the cure, they obviously contemplated it too.
 
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