Punisher (2004) never gets enough love. I loved the film and soundtrack.
Thomas Jane's Frank Castle/Punisher was cerebal, unforgiving and filled with silent rage and sorrow. Those eyes (and his stare) of his just radiated anguish. Jane's interpretation was fairly good and believable. I still don't understand the criticism.
Very interesting list, and thanks for compiling it. With the likes of the Phantom and the Shadow up, plus Green Hornet, V, and uhm Batman, there's no reason Zorro the first caped masked action hero movie wouldn't qualify here, I believe.I added a bunch more to the list. Phantom, Shadow, etc.
Agreed! I thought the whole cast was really good in that. Rebecca Romijn was impressive in a comic book movie without the blue body paint.Having rewatched Thomas Jane's Punisher a couple of times I have to say people judge that film far too harshly. A lot of it is really good.
That's how Shawshank was voted #1.First thought is that IMDB has little credibility due to the political nature of the voting by fanboys. Anything that gets popular will result in "10s" for the loved movie followed by "1s" for any "competing movie"
I'm gonna say people don't give Batman: The Movie enough credit. It's probably, ironically, one of the most comic accurate comic book movies (to the 1950s).
There are of course movies that are not as effected by the fanboy element. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they all are unaffected.That's how Shawshank was voted #1.
Rampant fanboyism.
I believe they call themselves Shankers. They're worse than Trekkies.
No, your supposition is still incorrect.There are of course movies that are not as effected by the fanboy element. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they all are unaffected.
But the Watchman comic was tons better.I have to agree with Optimus on V For Vendetta. The film completely butchers the comic. The character is changed to the point his whole reason for his cause is changed, making the film's story a shell of the comic. The film turns into a generic political action thriller. And before I get accused of being a narrow-minded comic supporter, who refuses to accept changes for film adaptions: I like the Watchmen film better than the Graphic Novel.
I would be a bit more convinced this actually worked if I didn't look at the list itself.No, your supposition is still incorrect.
If you actually read about how IMDB does its rating system, they take unfair outliers into consideration, and I believe even prohibit new or infrequent users from even affecting the rating all together.
IMDB's rating system isn't a simple mean of x-amount of votes, it's actually scientifically formulated to provide a somewhat accurate rating system.
But the Watchman comic was tons better.
The thing about V4V is, whether or not it butchers the comic doesn't really matter when you consider it's merits as a film. I mean, sure it may be an awful adaptation of the comic, and butcher the story as you say, but whether or not it's a well-made and well-written film is an entirely different matter of debate.
Oh yes, I think we all agree it was a terrible adaptation of the source material.I agree. I never said the film sucked. I simply said the changes made it generic. Doesn't mean its bad. I was simply agreeing with him that it was a poor ADAPTION. As its own work of art, its decent. Still not a huge fan of it though.
Oh yes, I think we all agree it was a terrible adaptation of the source material.
As a film... I think Weaving makes it a very powerful experience. The weight his presence and delivery adds to the character really makes a mark in the viewer's mind. It's probably the best performance I've seen from him. Portman was also very strong in it, and again, along with Black Swan and Garden State, it's one of the better roles of her career.
The direction also was quite strong. James Mcteigue seemed to be able to recapture the tone and dark realism of Batman Begins, but actually proved to have a better visual eye than even Nolan did in 2005. It's a shame he hasn't made a good film since.
The script, I'll agree, did become rather mundane at certain points, and definitely could've used a greater level of complexity. Granted, if it achieved that complexity, V probably would've been a near-Oscar level caliber film, IMO.