Comics In a nutshell...

[sean61675]

I have been out of the loop for a while. Can someone fill me in on what is going on? I know I can figure this out by strolling through the forums but I just need a quick explanation (him losing his eye, organics, civil war stuff, why everyone thinks Pete's a tool now, etc).

I would appreciate it.

Also, if I went back to get caught up, how far back should I go or should I just buy TPB's).

 

[bulletbillx]

i recommend checking wikipedia.

 

[Norman Osborn]

I have been out of the loop for a while. Can someone fill me in on what is going on? I know I can figure this out by strolling through the forums but I just need a quick explanation (him losing his eye, organics, civil war stuff, why everyone thinks Pete's a tool now, etc).

I would appreciate it.

Also, if I went back to get caught up, how far back should I go or should I just buy TPB's).

I'll give you the "readers digest" condensed version

Losing the eye

During the "Other" arc, Spider-man fought a villain by the name of Morlun who first appeared in JMS's Book of Ezekial arc.

Morlun beat Spidey down and decided to rip out his eye and eat it! Spidey dies but is later reborn with new advanced powers and a new eye.

We Learn that Spidey is not an accident but rather one of a long line of Spider-men bequeathed his powers by a mystic spider-god, a Spider God who apparently is so inept at his job he can't tell the difference between a fake and real chosen one! ....earth to Spider-God...YOU CHOSE HIM!!!.....

Organics

During the Spider-man Disassembled arc in Spectacular Spider-man, Pete gives birth to himself and in doing so develops organic webbing


Peter's a tool

People think Peter's a tool because of his extremely subservient behaviour towards Tony Stark (Which many will defend because Stark has done so much for him).....Pete's also being written as being anything but the genuis we know and Love in the pages of ASM, New Avengers etc....where often some of the most intelligent retorts, concern pooping his pants

Civil War

New Warriors battle a bunch of C-Lister criminals, in the ensuing ruckus there's an explosion that takes out 800 people including some children.....Government decides it's time to register all super-humans to ensure accountability.....half the Heros believe in it...half don't....the former are hunting down the latter.

Hope that helps

 

[Captivated]

Honestly... there is no quick explaination that would really do the events justice.

Referring to Wikipedia is good advice. Follow the links... you'll get enough background for some of the comments made here to make sense... at least, enough for you to know if you agree or disagree with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man

 

[Norman Osborn]

Honestly... there is no quick explaination that would really do the events justice.

Referring to Wikipedia is good advice. Follow the links... you'll get enough background for some of the comments made here to make sense... at least, enough for you to know if you agree or disagree with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man

.....true...but he did say "in a nutshell"...so that's what I gave him

 

[Captivated]

.....true...but he did say "in a nutshell"...so that's what I gave him

Well, I started my post before you completed your nutshell... and after replying volumes to the new reader concerning the different titles, I didn't really have the energy.

 

[Norman Osborn]

Well, I started my post before you completed your nutshell... and after replying volumes to the new reader concerning the different titles, I didn't really have the energy.

Lol...I'm sorry I thought your post was directed at me ...my bad...

....and I saw your post to the other new reader...no wonder you're exausted...wow ....good job

 

[kaijunexus]

Am I the only one who thinks that this new (and apparently improved) Peter Parker is a fake? I bet this whole Civil War thing is going to end up being a part of a larger insideous plot. Most likely, once it's revealed that the new Spider-Man isn't a true rebirth of Peter Parker, people won't buy the unmasking and will believe that someone was just trying to slander the "late" Parker or something.

Then the real Peter will secretly come back and everything will end up normal, etc.

Come on, people. This is COMIC BOOKS! How often do things get crazy and just end up going back to basics after a while via some convoluted plot twists?

 

[Kevin]

Am I the only one who thinks that this new (and apparently improved) Peter Parker is a fake? I bet this whole Civil War thing is going to end up being a part of a larger insideous plot. Most likely, once it's revealed that the new Spider-Man isn't a true rebirth of Peter Parker, people won't buy the unmasking and will believe that someone was just trying to slander the "late" Parker or something.

Then the real Peter will secretly come back and everything will end up normal, etc.

Come on, people. This is COMIC BOOKS! How often do things get crazy and just end up going back to basics after a while via some convoluted plot twists?

there is no way in hell i would accept this. it'd be the same thing with ben reiley for me. (even though i do like ben) it'd be unfair to say that this is a "fake" peter. then again, i kinda dont care... i'm complo

 

[sean61675]

Sigh. I just don't understand how these writers come up with this stuff. It was bad enough that they did the whole Gwen had kids with Norman thing (I did read that TPB at Barnes & Noble) but the whole unmasking thing (double sigh) they will find someway to "undo" that boneheaded move. Just like the organics, spider-stingers, iron-spidey costume, etc.

I want to see Ben come back. They tried so hard to bring Peter back to his roots and the closest they came was through Ben and then they killed him.

 

[Brainiac 8]

In a nutshell, Spider-Man is now getting raped on a regular basis by Joe Q, and seems to be liking it.

 

[Shadowknight]

Am I the only one who thinks that this new (and apparently improved) Peter Parker is a fake? I bet this whole Civil War thing is going to end up being a part of a larger insideous plot. Most likely, once it's revealed that the new Spider-Man isn't a true rebirth of Peter Parker, people won't buy the unmasking and will believe that someone was just trying to slander the "late" Parker or something.

Then the real Peter will secretly come back and everything will end up normal, etc.

Come on, people. This is COMIC BOOKS! How often do things get crazy and just end up going back to basics after a while via some convoluted plot twists?

The REAL Peter Parker decided to leave MJ and "discover himself" in Europe for the next year. The Peter Parker since JMS started writing the title is... Norman Osborne! Using a convuluted plan involving making a clone of himself to "fight" the Green Goblin, he's been living Peter's life while slowly going insane (okay, MORE insane) and hallucinating about Spider-gods, new powers, nailing Gwen and having children, and finally choosing to blow Peter's ID to the world.

 

[MattXG]

I'll give you the "readers digest" condensed version

Losing the eye

During the "Other" arc, Spider-man fought a villain by the name of Morlun who first appeared in JMS's Book of Ezekial arc.

Morlun beat Spidey down and decided to rip out his eye and eat it! Spidey dies but is later reborn with new advanced powers and a new eye.

We Learn that Spidey is not an accident but rather one of a long line of Spider-men bequeathed his powers by a mystic spider-god, a Spider God who apparently is so inept at his job he can't tell the difference between a fake and real chosen one! ....earth to Spider-God...YOU CHOSE HIM!!!.....

Organics

During the Spider-man Disassembled arc in Spectacular Spider-man, Pete gives birth to himself and in doing so develops organic webbing


Peter's a tool

People think Peter's a tool because of his extremely subservient behaviour towards Tony Stark (Which many will defend because Stark has done so much for him).....Pete's also being written as being anything but the genuis we know and Love in the pages of ASM, New Avengers etc....where often some of the most intelligent retorts, concern pooping his pants

Civil War

New Warriors battle a bunch of C-Lister criminals, in the ensuing ruckus there's an explosion that takes out 800 people including some children.....Government decides it's time to register all super-humans to ensure accountability.....half the Heros believe in it...half don't....the former are hunting down the latter.

Hope that helps

You forgot the whole....Gwen slept with Norman and got pregnant and had two kids with him...all without ever telling Peter or Peter noticing... lol.

 

[Shadowknight]

A couple of things that weren't mentioned

1. Due to meeting the Spider-god, Peter's rotting corpse spews forth a new body (after dying from wounds from Morlun). Apparently, a once-in-the-liftime-deal allows a spider to molt, giving it a new body (this doesn't quite ACCURATELY describe this real life trait of spiders, who DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS) - an incompetent spider-god? Sure, why not?
2. Getting resurrected, Peter gets the following new powers:
A. An enhanced Spider-sense (well, he got this upgrade when he turned into a really big spider in a spectauclar spider-man (along with the bio-webshooters), I can't remember if it got enhanced AGAIN from this process)
B. The ability to see in the dark/low light vision - just like JMSs favorite 3rd level Dwarf fighter when he played Dungeones and Dragons in high school!
C. He can now feel vibrations on his web like a spider (whoopee - like it isn't hard for normal people to notice the same thing on a big rope thing like a hammok)
D. Stingers - apparently since "spiders will evolve them in the future", Peter can now pop out stingers-blade-things from his arms ("Hellow Norman, how do you like these, Bub?" *snikt*) - Stingers, just like in the spider-anatomically correct Shelob in Lord of the Rings! The same universe where JMS played his 3rd level dwarf fighter! Did he mention that he loves ale, has a special telepathic relationship with his magic +1 axe, and gets a bonus against Chaotic-Neutral spider creatures?! It's true!
E. He can now stick things anywhere on his body, not just his hands and feet! It's one of the most original, genius level concepts for Spidey to have had for the last few deca- I mean, introduced in this new storyline!
F. Cannibalsim galore- after Morlun shows up to the hospital to eat Peter, Peter temporarily mutates into an anthropomorphic spider (minus the extra arms, and not QUITE as gross as the man-Tarantula the Tarantual turned into in Amazing Spider-man during Roger Stern's run), stabs him with the stingers, then eats his head.
G. Mary Jane apparently gained a healing factor as a result of having sex with Wolverine (not really, but it makes more sense than the following)- she had her arm broken by Morlun and in the next issue of the crossover, it wasn't broken. JMS quite obnoxiously provided some B.S. answer to explain this in a manner that said F.U. to the readers... when it was a MAJOR screwup on THEIR part instead of fan nitpickery. This magic healing method by Tony Stark will probably be never mentioned again. After all, it's a deus ex machine that can only happen once in a lifetime as part of the spider's life cycl- nevermind.

 

[DACrowe]

Remember back in 2001 when JMS and Paul Jenkins came on the scene? It seemed like they brought Spider-Man back with avengence. No more ****ty storylines from that no talent hack named Howard Mackie. For about 3 years we were reading the best Spider-Man comics since the '80s and up until a little over a year ago, it seemed like they brought Spider-Man back as the greatest hero title.

Then came Sins Past....wow, what a huge mistake. Gwen ****ing Norman Osborn, that is so wrong ON SO MANY LEVELS. And then her HAVING HIS KIDS. Disgusting.

Then The Other which ****ted on everything good we ever knew about Peter Parker. The ONLY decent thin in that story was Mary Jane was very well written and if this was a "What if Spider-Man died?" storyline the ending with the 7th or 8th part (not sure which) would've been pretty damn powerful....BUT NO, Peter is decended from a Spider-God or some **** and gives birth to himself by tearing up his old body, living in acocoon and has organics. Organics are not disgusting in the mvoie, THEY ARE DISGUSTING IN THE COMICS. The beauty of The Book of Eziekel is that it left up to the reader to decide and we could all smile and make our decision (most being skeptical like Pete of the mystic orgin). But now he has giant claws sticking out of his ass and eats people's heads. **** THAT.


But hey we can all just retconn this when Spidey gets his old suit back and leaves the Avengers. "It never happened" sorta' crap like we already are doing for Sins Past. But then, the ultimate audacity, SPIDER-MAN UNMASKS HIMSELF....TO THE WHOLE ****ING WORLD. that's right Spider-Man willingly takes his mask off in front of everyone because Tony Stark told him to and he'll obey the law, even if the law is wrong. Since when has Spider-Man EVER obeied the law faithfully? He's a ****ing vigalante and not a George Bush puppet.



And that is in a nutshell how Marvel went from the greatest high of Spidey comics in over a decade to the slow butchering and ultimate mutilation of their greatest character. Hence my theory that he died in The Other and whatever came out of him is a sad imitator now.