in which episode does clark fly for the first time?

[Jack O Lantern]

I think its Jor el. When Kal El called clark weak I think he made cowardly, he's afraid to accept his destiney because of human feelings, if did not have these feelings then he would have left at the end of Season 2, instead human emotion kept him in Smallville.

Jor El has yet to do anything wrong, bad things happen because Clark won't listen, I mean has Clark ever had the good sense to ask what Jor El's plans are, I mean the whole "conquer" thing could be lost in translation, like the Krypton word has no direct English word and conquer is just the closet

 

[bootspark]

ummm.....Jor-el killed that Kara girl. He strangled Jonathan and caused his heart problems. im sure theres more. but i believe the writers wrote Jor-El very ambiguous at first cause they might have wanted to turn him evil. Now they have put their foot in their mouth and want to make him completely good.
i may be wrong. but its just IMO.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Well it's possible that she died in the Meteor Shower and he simply reanimated her body and since she appeared to have new real memory of her pior existence no life force needed to be exchanged for her since she was more like Zombie.

He strangled Johnathon but didn't kill him when he could have, the health problems he suffered after he had powers weren't Jor Els fault, we have no idea if he new that would happen and since the deal was that Johnathon would return Clark its a could chance that he didn't/

Also you have to take into consideration that Jor El is not human therefor we can't really judge his actions with our own moral's, he's Krytonian and is only doing things the Kryptonian way.

 

[bootspark]

that sounds logical

 

[Serene]

ummm.....Jor-el killed that Kara girl. He strangled Jonathan and caused his heart problems. im sure theres more. but i believe the writers wrote Jor-El very ambiguous at first cause they might have wanted to turn him evil. Now they have put their foot in their mouth and want to make him completely good.
i may be wrong. but its just IMO.

Weeellll.. I'd have to disagree on a few points.

For one, Jor-El didn't necessarily "kill" Kara. She was involved in a car accident which may have left her mortally injured. Didn't her parents both die in that accident? What Jor-El did do, as far as we know, is keep her in some state of suspended animation until he needed to use her. She could very well have been reanimated dead meat.

As far as Jonathan's heart condition.. Jonathan went to Jor-El to ask for help in getting Clark back when he was on Red K. Jor-El gave Jonathan Super-Abilities so he could retrieve Clark, but having those abilities took a toll on Jonathan. Should Jor-El have warned Jonathan that there might be a physical toll to be paid if he took on those powers? Maybe, but I have no doubt that Jonathan would have made the same choice, regardless.

I do agree that they've purposely kept Jor-El an enigma.

 

[thebigtree95]

I do agree that they've purposely kept Jor-El an enigma.

They certainly have. I've long thought they were portraying Jor-El the way they have so that Clark woud fully embrace Earth as his home and be its protector like Jor-El really wants. Then when he begins his transition to Superman, Jor-El would reveal what Krypton was like but that he belongs on Earth.

I think Jor-El told Jonathan he would have to sacrifice something from the beginning.