Inevitable Remake

[miller man]

I hardly consider Burton's film a "relaunch". You do know the 66 movie was made for TV, right? Right along side the show.

Yes, you do have a point. Batman '89 wasn't so much a relaunch, but the '66 film is still the first full-length cinematic production.

The only point I was trying to make was that "re-boots" or whatever you want to call them seem to work in patterns, in that they occur every new generation, for a fresh, new set of fans. That time frame seems to consist of 15 to 25 year spans, or even more. That's all.

 

[Lantern Venom]

They will never reboot... if anything they will get straight to the clone saga and Ben Reiley. Unless SM4 is another Batman and Robin... you only reboot when the final installments are complete flops... which SM3 wasn't.

In 1989, we got a big budget Batman movie w/ the Joker and it was a huge success. Nexy year, we are going to get another big budget Batman movie with the Joker. I don't think any Super Hero movie is immune to a reboot.

 

[FNSpidey]

In 1989, we got a big budget Batman movie w/ the Joker and it was a huge success. Nexy year, we are going to get another big budget Batman movie with the Joker. I don't think any Super Hero movie is immune to a reboot.

But that's the whole point. It took an epicly bad film like B&R to reboot the Batman franchise. Even if you didn't like SM3, you can't seriously compare it to that. Besides, you can't use the only super-hero franchise that was actually relaunched as evidence that no franchise is immune to a reboot.

 

[Lantern Venom]

But that's the whole point. It took an epicly bad film like B&R to reboot the Batman franchise. Even if you didn't like SM3, you can't seriously compare it to that. Besides, you can't use the only super-hero franchise that was actually relaunched as evidence that no franchise is immune to a reboot.

I think the comparison is valid since the reboot will cover the same area that the 80s-90s Batman series covered. Just because one set of movies is successful doesn't mean a new take on a franchise won't revive interest. There is plenty that could be covered ( and redone ) with the Spidey franchise even though all three films have been good.

 

[superglowy]

Why do people want a reboot? I want to see new villians on the screen. I'm really hoping for The Lizard in Spiderman-4.

They'll only do a reboot when they've ran out of good villians to use.

 

[FNSpidey]

I just thought of something. Even if there is a reboot someday, they're going to have a major disadvantage. Spidey's suit. They can't use the same suit (what kind of a reboot is that?), and let's face it, they surely can't design a better one.

 

[weezerspider]

never thought of that, good point. The only thing that I can think of them doing is having the comic spider on his back. Maybe a different red or different blue on the suit.

Batman 89 has The Joker in it, like the Dark Knight will and '89 was a success, but you can't use that as an example of why there isn't a comic movie thats immune to a reboot. The Joker is going to find his way into Batman films. He's Batman's arch enemy. He's his most popular villain and really, you can't have Batman without The Joker. Every great Batman story seems to have The Joker. SO even with 89's success, they would still easily use The Joker again.

 

[The Chris]

REBOOT? Hell no! Batman wasn't done right in the first place and needed a reboot. James Bond got too campy and needed a reboot. SPIDER-MAN DOES NOT NEED A REBOOT!

 

[dodus]

Reboots have nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with the nostalgia curve. In 15-20 years, everyone will want to see a new, fresh Spidey hit the big screen, because these films rocked, not because they ruined anything.

 

[Mr Jide]

They could just give him Ben Reilly's spider-man costume....but lets be honest, spidey's original costume is timeless and irreplaceable, it'll remain and stay that way. We wont be seeing any iron spidey or spidey 2099 or whatever costumes.

 

[Eggyman]

I agree with you 100% about the suit but lets not underestimate the ignorance of the bean counters and what they deem as 'cool'.

'The cheerleaders will be smoking hot but not actually aflame.' Those adverts from Orange are quite funny, and they seem to have a good idea about how Hollywood works.

 

[dodus]

Spidey's suit can be different-looking but still essentially the same. They agonized over every little detail on that suit, it's not like they just said, "classic costume, done deal, next problem!" I mean the eyes, the spider, the scales, the raised webbing, etc. Just like the artists have reinterpreted the same costume over the years, we could get a different cool look for the exact same suit no problem.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Reboots have nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with the nostalgia curve. In 15-20 years, everyone will want to see a new, fresh Spidey hit the big screen, because these films rocked, not because they ruined anything.

DING! DING! DING! Give that man the $64,000.

 

[Kaizer104]

They could just give him Ben Reilly's spider-man costume....but lets be honest, spidey's original costume is timeless and irreplaceable, it'll remain and stay that way. We wont be seeing any iron spidey or spidey 2099 or whatever costumes.

Personally, I'd like to see Iron Spidey in the movie series but as a costume worn by a villain.

 

[WalterKovacs]

I dont know, for me, the universe represented in Spider-Man 1 and 2 is in many ways the erfect realization of the comics. I think a cool way to do a re-boot would be a tv series, live action. (None of that MTV CGI bullcrap) ANd do somehting like an adaptation of the Ultimate series. That is to say, make it largely about a modern peter parker in high school who is a superhero by night and deals with teenager issues by day, ala buffy the vampire slayer. I also like the way the ultimate series set up villains from early on, so when the story about that villain came along, we could focus on peter instead of the villain's origin story. The series would be what a perfect spider-man story is: A cross of Alias or X-files and Freaks and Geeks.

 

[Blader5489]

I dont know, for me, the universe represented in Spider-Man 1 and 2 is in many ways the erfect realization of the comics. I think a cool way to do a re-boot would be a tv series, live action. (None of that MTV CGI bullcrap) ANd do somehting like an adaptation of the Ultimate series. That is to say, make it largely about a modern peter parker in high school who is a superhero by night and deals with teenager issues by day, ala buffy the vampire slayer. I also like the way the ultimate series set up villains from early on, so when the story about that villain came along, we could focus on peter instead of the villain's origin story. The series would be what a perfect spider-man story is: A cross of Alias or X-files and Freaks and Geeks.

Completely agree. The only way I would ever want to see a Spider-Man reboot was if it was more in line with the Ultimate Spider-Man continuity.

Also, no Goblins and no Osborns. They were represented to near perfection in Raimi's movies, and I wouldn't even want a future reboot waste time by doing the Goblin/Osborn stories again.

 

[chaseter]

Walter, why did you revive this?

 

[Arcturus]

No remakes, no reboots, please. Not until the Spider-Man series runs dry and stale. And even, then just stop.

 

[ShadowoftheBat]

You know someone is already thinking about the remake though, regardless

 

[Infinity9999x]

I hardly consider Burton's film a "relaunch". You do know the 66 movie was made for TV, right? Right along side the show.

It wasn't really a relaunch on an existing film series, but I would say it was a relaunch for the character in the eyes of the public.

At that point and time most non-comic fans still viewed Batman as he was portrayed in the campy 60's series. The Burton movies relaunched the character in a new light for the general public, showing them that Batman could also be a dark character.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I dont know, for me, the universe represented in Spider-Man 1 and 2 is in many ways the erfect realization of the comics. I think a cool way to do a re-boot would be a tv series, live action. (None of that MTV CGI bullcrap) ANd do somehting like an adaptation of the Ultimate series.

I personally don't view the first two movies as the perfect film version of the Spider-man character (for that they actually needed to make Spider-man a character, not a mute guy in a costume) but I completley agree on the tv-series thing.

I mean, look at how popular Smallvile is. I see no reason why a Spider-man live action tv series wouldn't be just as popular, especially if you put an ultimate spin on it.

I wouldn't do it totally Ultimate, as you said, but more a retelling of classic stories with the Ultimate feel. I think that could be a great idea for a tv-show.

 

[Eternalzero]

These Spider-man movies have passed the "awkward" stage. No needing to retell the origin of spider-man, he's gone through enough to the point where he can kick anyone's ass well.

Just throw in some new villains, if the movie is good, keep it going, if not reboot the series 10 years from now.

Spider-man movies aren't that bad yet, but do I want to see a new incarnation of Peter Parker? Sure!

 

[Spider-Vader]

I say 20 years from now we'll see a re-boot>

 

[Arcturus]

Well knowing Hollywood nowadays, they will probarbly do a remake next year.

 

[Leenie]

The Spidey movies getting a reboot should be the very LAST thing on our minds right now.

Now, the focus should be on Spider-Man 4. If Spider-Man 4 turns out to be a disaster (like Batman & Robin), THEN we can talk about a reboot.

I don't know, but talking about a possible reboot now makes me think that the fans are already negative about Spidey 4, and there isn't even a director chosen for it yet! Boooooooo.