Inspectors So Far Denied Access to Iran’s Scientists

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Obama set that tone though. When Olympia Snowe doesn't feel like she can work with you or that you are interested in working with her then there is a problem.

That's a bunch of BS. All politicians supposedly work we the people yet these idiots act like spoiled little children who can't get their way so they have been throwing a tantrum for the last 7 years. Also how is it Obama's fault that they moment he was elected the GOP went on record as saying they are going to do everything they can to undermine him and make him a one-term president? The Dems may have had a similar mentality when W was elected but they didn't make a statement to the press saying nor did they flat out refuse tow work with him on anything based soley on the fact that he supported it

 

[KevanG]

To be perfectly honest, if I was Iran I wouldn't let the US check out a single thing until the deal was finalized. I wouldn't put it past the US to try and pull some sneaky **** once they get a peek at what they want.

I'm not supporting Iran in anything but I wouldn't trust the US to uphold their end of the deal if they felt like they could get away with breaking it.

 

[chaseter]

Did I say that? No, I did not. You were trying to make the point that Bush got crap from Dems during his time but compare his congress which worked with him to the least productive and most combative congress ever that is working with Obama and you'll see the point I am making

He constantly got crap from the left so I don't see your point. That was my point, to which you responded with a passing bills retort...a tangent that had nothing to do with anything in which you worded it by saying Bush had the left pass wasteful bills, shifting the blame to Bush. They are both to blame.

Obama said he wouldn't listen to Republicans his first 2 years and wouldn't hold meeting with both parties until recently. They are both children. The left was calling Bush a monkey and people talk about giving respect to the office.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

He constantly got crap from the left so I don't see your point. That was my point, to which you responded with a passing bills retort...a tangent that had nothing to do with anything in which you worded it by saying Bush had the left pass wasteful bills, shifting the blame to Bush. They are both to blame.

Obama said he wouldn't listen to Republicans his first 2 years and wouldn't hold meeting with both parties until recently. They are both children. The left was calling Bush a monkey and people talk about giving respect to the office.

Link me to the time the Dems shut down the government when W was in office if you could, I forgot exactly when that date was for some reason

 

[chaseter]

Tangents, tangents, tangents.

The day you realize your precious Democrats are fallible and just as guilty as those evil Republicans will be the day pigs fly I guess.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...t-down-government-if-they-cant-spend-more.htm

That's what is happening right now.

And now a history lesson:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_shutdown_of_1995

I don't know how people can have a memory spanning only about 8 years. How old are you?

Both parties are to be blamed. Clinton vetoed the bill. He pulled the trigger. He was given the loaded gun by Newt. Both are culpable. That shut down the Government.

 

[chaseter]

In 2013, the shut down resulted due to the fighting between the children in the House and the children in the Senate.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Tangents, tangents, tangents.

The day you realize your precious Democrats are fallible and just as guilty as those evil Republicans will be the day pigs fly I guess.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...t-down-government-if-they-cant-spend-more.htm

That's what is happening right now.

And now a history lesson:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_shutdown_of_1995

I don't know how people can have a memory spanning only about 8 years. How old are you?

Both parties are to be blamed. Clinton vetoed the bill. He pulled the trigger. He was given the loaded gun by Newt. Both are culpable. That shut down the Government.

You have it twisted my friend. The only reason I vote for Dems is the fact that they at least claim to want to help poor and underprivileged people. I see them as the lesser of 2 evils. I evaluate every candidate on the quality of their content, not the party label. But the majority of what I believe in just doesn't jive with the GOP. If I could realistically vote for the Green party without wasting my vote I would. If a pragmatic libertarian came along that wasn't insane about how much they wanted to limit the government that would be something that would be of interest to me. I know the Dems cause a good chunk of problems because lots of them are in the pockets of big business as well. I'm also aware of the fact that my fave president (Bill Clinton) bears a healthy portion of the factors that resulted in the 2008 crash. Don't get me confused with some blind Dem that thinks there is never any fault in his party because that ain't me homie

 

[chaseter]

The Dems pander to the poor to get votes. They care about the poor zero percent. It's all political pandering. They only care about themselves. All these rich Democrats and their millions and billions in assets. Like Hillary Clinton cares about poor people haha! The great delusion of the Left. Rich politicians, left or right, don't care about the poor or sick or hungry. They care about staying in office.

Conservative households donate more to charity than liberal households on average.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

The Dems pander to the poor to get votes. They care about the poor zero percent. It's all political pandering. They only care about themselves. All these rich Democrats and their millions and billions in assets. Like Hillary Clinton cares about poor people haha! The great delusion of the Left. Rich politicians, left or right, don't care about the poor or sick or hungry. They care about staying in office.

Conservative households donate more to charity than liberal households on average.

At least the majority of the Dems don't actively vote against the best interest of the poor and disabled or vets like the GOP does. Therefore, by default I can not support the GOP

 

[chaseter]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Even though conservatives are more giving than liberals on average, the Democratic Party values the poor more....makes sense.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Even though conservatives are more giving than liberals on average, the Democratic Party values the poor more....makes sense.

I don't give a crap which of their constituents donates, I go by what these idiots vote for and what bills they pass or fail. What the heck do you chose your politicians with?

 

[SV Fan]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Even though conservatives are more giving than liberals on average, the Democratic Party values the poor more....makes sense.

Problem with the whole Republicans give more(even if you looking at it as a percentage) is it counts money given to churches. I am sorry some people may view giving money to a church as charity but I would consider it on par with me giving money to an atheist group

I am sorry but just because I give food or toys(these are generally the biggest part of my giving) to drives for those products or 10 bucks to whatever charity i see pop up at a store and don't expect a tax return for my gift(consider it my gift to Uncle Sam), my 2-3% of my total salary I give is worth a hell of alot more then the 10% somebody will give to a church, especially when I don't view my gift as some sort of writeoff

https://philanthropy.com/article/America-s-Geographic-Giving/156259

When religious giving isn’t counted, the geography of giving is very different. Some states in the Northeast would jump into the top 10 when secular gifts alone are counted. New York would vault from No. 18 to No. 2 in the rankings, and Pennsylvania would climb from No. 40 to No. 4.

 

[Marvolo]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Even though conservatives are more giving than liberals on average, the Democratic Party values the poor more....makes sense.

Well the Democrat Party isn't the one trying to take safety nets, food, and medicine from the poor.

 

[chaseter]

I don't give a crap which of their constituents donates, I go by what these idiots vote for and what bills they pass or fail. What the heck do you chose your politicians with?

Who gives more to charity as a percentage of their income: Romney or Obama?

 

[chaseter]

Well the Democrat Party isn't the one trying to take safety nets, food, and medicine from the poor.

No one is trying to take away all safety nets. That's as accurate as the War on Christmas crowd.

They need reformation. If you disagree with that then you will have done more damage when they're all insolvent.

 

[chaseter]

Problem with the whole Republicans give more(even if you looking at it as a percentage) is it counts money given to churches. I am sorry some people may view giving money to a church as charity but I would consider it on par with me giving money to an atheist group

I am sorry but just because I give food or toys(these are generally the biggest part of my giving) to drives for those products or 10 bucks to whatever charity i see pop up at a store and don't expect a tax return for my gift(consider it my gift to Uncle Sam), my 2-3% of my total salary I give is worth a hell of alot more then the 10% somebody will give to a church, especially when I don't view my gift as some sort of writeoff

https://philanthropy.com/article/America-s-Geographic-Giving/156259

The Catholic Church and its charities/hospitals/shelters are one of the largest charitable organizations in this Country. Churches support the communities. The money isn't hoarded or going to CEO salaries like Goodwill. Now there are some corrupt Churches yes.

 

[Smashlilman]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Even though conservatives are more giving than liberals on average, the Democratic Party values the poor more....makes sense.

The Catholic Church and its charities/hospitals/shelters are one of the largest charitable organizations in this Country. Churches support the communities. The money isn't hoarded or going to CEO salaries like Goodwill. Now there are some corrupt Churches yes.

How can you attribute everything that Churches do to one parties membership. You make it sound like all churches are conservative republican organizations and that everything that they do should be attributed to Conservative generosity.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Who gives more to charity as a percentage of their income: Romney or Obama?

Romney is one hell of a good guy, I know this (he's also super humble so you don't see tons of articles everywhere about all the good things he does). Had he been clearer on his message and ran as the Romney that won in Massachusetts I don't think Obama would have one. But that is not the platform he decided to run on nor was it the message he was putting out. Your point is moot

 

[Smashlilman]

Romney is one hell of a good guy, I know this (he's also super humble so you don't see tons of articles everywhere about all the good things he does). Had he been clearer on his message and ran as the Romney that won in Massachusetts I don't think Obama would have one. But that is not the platform he decided to run on nor was it the message he was putting out. Your point is moot

Mitt was doomed from start to finish. If he would have ran as Massachusetts Mitt during the general, the Obama machine would have went with painting him as a flip flopper in the general instead of and extreme conservative which was the actual reason why he didn't pivot towards the center during the general. He was also destined to lose the Hispanic vote manly because his stance against Comprehended Immigration reform wouldn't have changed.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Mitt was doomed from start to finish. If he would have ran as Massachusetts Mitt during the general, the Obama machine would have went with painting him as a flip flopper in the general instead of and extreme conservative which was the actual reason why he didn't pivot towards the center during the general. He was also destined to lose the Hispanic vote manly because his stance against Comprehended Immigration reform wouldn't have changed.

Oh he would have had to run the whole thing as Mass Mitt, I think one of his advisors said it best after the campaign that they ran his with the equivalent of a butcher's knife whereas Obama and his people ran their campaign with a scalpel

 

[SV Fan]

The Catholic Church and its charities/hospitals/shelters are one of the largest charitable organizations in this Country. Churches support the communities. The money isn't hoarded or going to CEO salaries like Goodwill. Now there are some corrupt Churches yes.

Does some of the money get put to good use and actual charity when you give to churches, sure but no way is all 10% you give actual "charity".


You honestly can't tell me the Fortress of Solitude pictured here is "charity"

As I said I prefer food and toy donations as my choice of charity because I know 100% of what I give is given to good causes. I also don't expect money back for my gift from Uncle Sam.

 

[Taarna]

Has there been an inspections of the military sites?

If Iran can deny inspectors access to military sites, it will create an enormous sanctuary for clandestine nuclear weapons work. The Parchin site alone encompasses hundreds of buildings spread over a dozen square miles. If military sites in Iran are off limits to IAEA inspection, the “strongest nonproliferation agreement ever negotiated according to Obama ” will include the largest loophole in arms control history.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I just can't get myself to care about this.

 

[Marvolo]

Has there been an inspections of the military sites?

If Iran can deny inspectors access to military sites, it will create an enormous sanctuary for clandestine nuclear weapons work. The Parchin site alone encompasses hundreds of buildings spread over a dozen square miles. If military sites in Iran are off limits to IAEA inspection, the “strongest nonproliferation agreement ever negotiated according to Obama ” will include the largest loophole in arms control history.

This has been explained to you. This really isnt difficult to understand. The US hasnt voted on the agreement yet. Until our Congress votes on the agreement and the sanctions are removed, Iran isnt required to let us inspect any sites.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Has there been an inspections of the military sites?

If Iran can deny inspectors access to military sites, it will create an enormous sanctuary for clandestine nuclear weapons work. The Parchin site alone encompasses hundreds of buildings spread over a dozen square miles. If military sites in Iran are off limits to IAEA inspection, the “strongest nonproliferation agreement ever negotiated according to Obama ” will include the largest loophole in arms control history.

I already know the answer to this question, but you're not all that bright are you?